Interesting that French and German clubs have given this a swerve. Reports seem to suggest this is being pushed the hardest by the Spanish clubs, who are all in financial holes of differing depths
This also proves that FFP has been a joke all along.
Interesting that French and German clubs have given this a swerve. Reports seem to suggest this is being pushed the hardest by the Spanish clubs, who are all in financial holes of differing depths
Yep, no surprises that the Spanish teams are pushing for this. I bet Barcelona are desperate for it to happen....I wonder why that is?
The irony of a Sky Sports presenter talking about greed in football.
Neville benefited hugely from greed during his playing and presenting career, now gets up in arms because he'll miss out on the money.
Man United started the American takeover of football with the Glazers and didn't say anything about it at the time.
If anything Gary Neville should be applauded for saying the sort of thing that I'm sure not many Sky producers/execs would feel comfortable about, knowing full well they will want to be in the running for the TV rights to a super league themselves one day.
Kick them out if they leave. If it doesn't work and they want back in then they can apply for a place at the bottom of the pyramid bit as per every other team it would be an application and could be rejected. Don't allow any loanees from those teams back to the English leagues.
If this league actually happens then TV money plummets for whatever is left over. In lower leagues some clubs will disappear without the money that TV contracts sent down the pyramid. It's not like the remaining clubs get all the money the Big 6 clubs formerly made in the league.... they get far, far less. NBC in the USA and broadcasters in other countries are not going to pay billion dollar fees to broadcast Norwich vs Burnley. What remains of the EPL (economically) becomes a glorified Championship. That might be fun to watch but the money will dry up and with it, many clubs too.
Exactly, a lot of people saying good riddance (which i can understand) but pretty much every premier league club would be struggling within a couple of seasons.
TV money would fall through the floor once the current tv deal ends (i think next year) and many clubs would be left with a number of players still on 2/3/4 year deals on big money they couldn't afford.
That would of course filter down into the championship, clubs with reduced parachute payments etc, clubs who are spending big to try and make the top flight because of the money there.......only the money won't be there. It'd sort itself out eventually but would be a short term disaster.
Interesting that French and German clubs have given this a swerve. Reports seem to suggest this is being pushed the hardest by the Spanish clubs, who are all in financial holes of differing depths
The German clubs aren't allowed to owned by foreign owners or big corporations (other than Red Bull to an extent) so will have different motivations and rules to adhere to
Slightly surprised PSG haven't signed up yet though
The FA said it will "not provide permission to any competition that would be damaging to English football" and will "take any legal and/or regulatory action necessary" to stop it.
You had your chance 30 years ago and looked the other way for backhanders. Go fuck yourselves you cowardly, self serving arse’oles.
Interesting that French and German clubs have given this a swerve. Reports seem to suggest this is being pushed the hardest by the Spanish clubs, who are all in financial holes of differing depths
The German clubs aren't allowed to owned by foreign owners or big corporations (other than Red Bull to an extent) so will have different motivations and rules to adhere to
Slightly surprised PSG haven't signed up yet though
PSG would be if they were in a Barcelona type hole.
If this league actually happens then TV money plummets for whatever is left over. In lower leagues some clubs will disappear without the money that TV contracts sent down the pyramid. It's not like the remaining clubs get all the money the Big 6 clubs formerly made in the league.... they get far, far less. NBC in the USA and broadcasters in other countries are not going to pay billion dollar fees to broadcast Norwich vs Burnley. What remains of the EPL (economically) becomes a glorified Championship. That might be fun to watch but the money will dry up and with it, many clubs too.
Exactly, a lot of people saying good riddance (which i can understand) but pretty much every premier league club would be struggling within a couple of seasons.
TV money would fall through the floor once the current tv deal ends (i think next year) and many clubs would be left with a number of players still on 2/3/4 year deals on big money they couldn't afford.
That would of course filter down into the championship, clubs with reduced parachute payments etc, clubs who are spending big to try and make the top flight because of the money there.......only the money won't be there. It'd sort itself out eventually but would be a short term disaster.
No doubt it would trigger some pain in the medium term, but it’d also be a huge opportunity for a readjustment in English football that could strengthen it in the long run. The current situation is neither healthy or sustainable either. There are too many clubs struggling as it is for any argument that the trickle down economic model is currently, in some way, protecting the bottom of the pyramid.
If this league actually happens then TV money plummets for whatever is left over. In lower leagues some clubs will disappear without the money that TV contracts sent down the pyramid. It's not like the remaining clubs get all the money the Big 6 clubs formerly made in the league.... they get far, far less. NBC in the USA and broadcasters in other countries are not going to pay billion dollar fees to broadcast Norwich vs Burnley. What remains of the EPL (economically) becomes a glorified Championship. That might be fun to watch but the money will dry up and with it, many clubs too.
Exactly, a lot of people saying good riddance (which i can understand) but pretty much every premier league club would be struggling within a couple of seasons.
TV money would fall through the floor once the current tv deal ends (i think next year) and many clubs would be left with a number of players still on 2/3/4 year deals on big money they couldn't afford.
That would of course filter down into the championship, clubs with reduced parachute payments etc, clubs who are spending big to try and make the top flight because of the money there.......only the money won't be there. It'd sort itself out eventually but would be a short term disaster.
No doubt it would trigger some pain in the medium term, but it’d also be a huge opportunity for a readjustment in English football that could strengthen it in the long run. The current situation is neither healthy or sustainable either. There are too many clubs struggling as it is for any argument that the trickle down economic model is currently, in some way, protecting the bottom of the pyramid.
Not sure this would be the case.
There would be a concentration at the top, imagine the amount of academies that would shut down because it's no longer financially viable without the Premier League money signing players.
Hundreds of thousands of people, up and down the country, spend, individually, thousands of pounds a year to go and watch football. None of them are going to watch the opposition, they’re there to watch their team. Newcastle, Leeds, Everton, West Ham, Sunderland, Wolves, Villa etc. will still draw large crowds to watch them. Football has existed for over a hundred years and did so just fine without massive TV deals for most of that time. It will need to adjust but it can definitely still thrive. It won’t be special to see Man Utd play Barcelona 4 times a season, those games are exciting because they only happen every few years, and even the current Champions League format has removed the shine form some of those types of fixtures.
Hundreds of thousands of people, up and down the country, spend, individually, thousands of pounds a year to go and watch football. None of them are going to watch the opposition, they’re there to watch their team. Newcastle, Leeds, Everton, West Ham, Sunderland, Wolves, Villa etc. will still draw large crowds to watch them. Football has existed for over a hundred years and did so just fine without massive TV deals for most of that time. It will need to adjust but it can definitely still thrive. It won’t be special to see Man Utd play Barcelona 4 times a season, those games are exciting because they only happen every few years, and even the current Champions League format has removed the shine form some of those types of fixtures.
So why are crowds at Charlton bigger when they play Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool? If they aren't there to watch the opposition?
Never going to happen, at least not yet. Running it up the flagpole again and again until people basically accept the idea, then sneak it in the back door. You say something often enough and the initial disgust dissipates.
Never going to happen, at least not yet. Running it up the flagpole again and again until people basically accept the idea, then sneak it in the back door. You say something often enough and the initial disgust dissipates.
If this league actually happens then TV money plummets for whatever is left over. In lower leagues some clubs will disappear without the money that TV contracts sent down the pyramid. It's not like the remaining clubs get all the money the Big 6 clubs formerly made in the league.... they get far, far less. NBC in the USA and broadcasters in other countries are not going to pay billion dollar fees to broadcast Norwich vs Burnley. What remains of the EPL (economically) becomes a glorified Championship. That might be fun to watch but the money will dry up and with it, many clubs too.
Or the money resets and no longer can so many players expect to retire as multi millionaires.
The game can be survive with less TV money if expectations are adjusted
I couldn't really care less, my first thought is that football might be better without them. But I worry about the creation of b teams that are still allowed to play in the PL.
Never going to happen, at least not yet. Running it up the flagpole again and again until people basically accept the idea, then sneak it in the back door. You say something often enough and the initial disgust dissipates.
Hundreds of thousands of people, up and down the country, spend, individually, thousands of pounds a year to go and watch football. None of them are going to watch the opposition, they’re there to watch their team. Newcastle, Leeds, Everton, West Ham, Sunderland, Wolves, Villa etc. will still draw large crowds to watch them. Football has existed for over a hundred years and did so just fine without massive TV deals for most of that time. It will need to adjust but it can definitely still thrive. It won’t be special to see Man Utd play Barcelona 4 times a season, those games are exciting because they only happen every few years, and even the current Champions League format has removed the shine form some of those types of fixtures.
So why are crowds at Charlton bigger when they play Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool? If they aren't there to watch the opposition?
I thought the Valley was mostly full for all PL games, not just when we played those 4
Hundreds of thousands of people, up and down the country, spend, individually, thousands of pounds a year to go and watch football. None of them are going to watch the opposition, they’re there to watch their team. Newcastle, Leeds, Everton, West Ham, Sunderland, Wolves, Villa etc. will still draw large crowds to watch them. Football has existed for over a hundred years and did so just fine without massive TV deals for most of that time. It will need to adjust but it can definitely still thrive. It won’t be special to see Man Utd play Barcelona 4 times a season, those games are exciting because they only happen every few years, and even the current Champions League format has removed the shine form some of those types of fixtures.
So why are crowds at Charlton bigger when they play Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool? If they aren't there to watch the opposition?
26,749 attendance to watch Hartlepool United, 5/05/12
I'm swinging between, feck 'em let them get on with it, but then, when you watch someone as passionate about it as Gary Neville, starting to think about the wider, community impact.
How would the average Liverpool fan, who's followed them around the country for decades, saving up £1000's to do so, ever afford to go to 10 European away games? City have been knocking around the lower leagues themselves not that long ago. Lots of these fans are the 4th or 5th generation and will be priced out of following their club.
These clubs are treating everyone, but especially their own fans with contempt.
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This also proves that FFP has been a joke all along.
Can it happen without the ‘members’ say-so?
TV money would fall through the floor once the current tv deal ends (i think next year) and many clubs would be left with a number of players still on 2/3/4 year deals on big money they couldn't afford.
That would of course filter down into the championship, clubs with reduced parachute payments etc, clubs who are spending big to try and make the top flight because of the money there.......only the money won't be there. It'd sort itself out eventually but would be a short term disaster.
Slightly surprised PSG haven't signed up yet though
as for the English clubs, no surprises on Spurs and Arsenal, financially fucked by stadiums, unlikely to qualify any other way.
There would be a concentration at the top, imagine the amount of academies that would shut down because it's no longer financially viable without the Premier League money signing players.
The game can be survive with less TV money if expectations are adjusted
Either way I can't really see it happening
Majority of the backers are American based, are we going down the franchise route with all this shit.
....Then I heard Spurs were in it!!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I've changed my mind.
Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man C, Spurs, Chelsea please don't go.
How would the average Liverpool fan, who's followed them around the country for decades, saving up £1000's to do so, ever afford to go to 10 European away games? City have been knocking around the lower leagues themselves not that long ago. Lots of these fans are the 4th or 5th generation and will be priced out of following their club.
These clubs are treating everyone, but especially their own fans with contempt.