How Likely Are You To Take The Covid Vaccine?

McBobbin

the papers I read about how the vaccine might trigger a mechanism that might cause the liver cells to transcribe the vaccine RNA into the cell line also point out that the effect was nothing compared to what the virus itself does. What with viruses being really bad for you and everything. 

AndyG

I have just had Covid for the 1st time which is remarkable in itself really as I worked normally throughout lockdown and came into contact with it pretty often. Felt rough on Friday and tested positive, went to bed and basically slept until yesterday morning. Was lucky in that it was basically like a heavy cold but now feel fine. I appreciate that I have been lucky but it has made me think about the requirement for another vaccine personally. If you are frail or have underlying medical issues then I can see the reason but it wasn’t that bad for me personally 

Gillis

arny23394 said:

PeanutsMolloy said:

The relevance of the discovery of far higher than prescribed maximum levels of DNA in some vials is that it may explain this - the persistence in the bodies of vaccinated people for 6 months, potentially indefinitely, of vaccine-specific spike proteins (of different characteristics to those resulting from Covid infection) and their presence throughout the body, i.e. not confined to the injection site - both of these findings contrary to the claims of the manufacturers.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/new-study-detects-spike-protein-in-vaccinated-6-months-after-covid-19-vaccination-researchers-suggest-3-possible-reasons-5488364?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheChiefNerd&src_src=partner&src_cmp=TheChiefNerd

 

Epoch times isn’t a very reputable source.

I'd never heard of it, so to save anyone else that's in the same boat a trip to Wikipedia:

"The Epoch Times is a far-right[1] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement.[29] The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.[30] The Epoch Times has websites in 35 countries but is blocked in mainland China.[31]

The Epoch Times opposes the Chinese Communist Party,[32][33][22] platforms far-right politicians in Europe,[8][10][22] and has supported former President Donald Trump in the U.S.;[34][35] a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign itself.[30][36][22] The Epoch Times frequently runs stories promoting other Falun Gong-affiliated groups, such as the performing arts company Shen Yun.[34][24][37] The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have promoted conspiracy theories such as QAnon, anti-vaccine misinformation[41] and false claims of fraud in the 2020 United States presidential election.[44]"

thai malaysia addick

All done for me. Only side effect seems to be that I fancied a gin and tonic tonight which is unusual for Wednesday.

Gillis

McBobbin said:

I can't open the Epoch times article. That's fine because it refers to a study. I'd like to see that study if there's a link or reference to it in the article. 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/prca.202300048

McBobbin

Gillis said:

McBobbin said:

I can't open the Epoch times article. That's fine because it refers to a study. I'd like to see that study if there's a link or reference to it in the article. 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/prca.202300048

Thanks! Bedtime reading

NabySarr

PeanutsMolloy said:

The fact is, according to official data, we have recorded this year to date over 40,000 excess deaths in the UK. That's 200 (a plane load) a day on average or 70,000+ a year.

We urgently need to know what’s causing it.

I don’t know and nobody on this Forum or in the general population knows.

One possibility (just one), since the mRNA vaccine manifestly has results and a composition that are contrary to manufacturers' claims and prescribed standards, is that the Covid vaccine, or multiple applications of it, maybe a cause.

But we won’t discover the true cause or causes unless the Government and mainstream media takes a due interest in the matter.

Yet the UK Government (indeed all but a handful of Westminster MPs) is virtually silent on the very subject of excess deaths and seemingly uninterested in investigating its cause.

Why is that?

Meanwhile, the Pfizer autumn jab has been tested on 10 mice

https://cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2023-09-12/10-COVID-Modjarrad-508.pdf

I’m sorry but that’s such a reach 

Covid and lockdown caused massive pressure and a drain on resources on the NHS and there was always going to be a fallout from it that would impact lives in the future. In my opinion it was the necessary evil, as without it those covid spikes you see above would have been a hell of a lot worse. But I’m sure lockdowns and lack of access to Hospitals/Doctors has massively  contributed to the excess deaths we are seeing. That seems far more likely than what you are suggesting. 

Also longer term, health and social care budgets have been decimated by the Tories, this has meant excess deaths have been occurring before anyone had even heard of the word covid. Tories austerity is estimated to have caused around 300k excess deaths between 2012 and 2019, so it could just be a continuation of this trend. When you add in increasing inequality and a cost of living crisis and you are again seeing conditions that will see health deteriorating and more people dying.

Looking at your suggestion of the reason vs those 2, I think it’s very clear that these are far more likely to be the main contributing factors. 

But no, it’s the vaccines that done it, because some far-right articles and videos say so 

Huskaris

Been in Spain visiting my cousins. They're nice enough people, quite successful too but not smart at all, whilst thinking they are...

They started telling me that the vaccine was killing people, and that they're not some crazy conspiracy theorist that believes COVID is fake, but that there's clearly something going on behind the scenes, the biggest of which was two presidents of some small countries that I can't remember dying shortly after declaring that they wouldn't be getting their nations vaccinated.... obviously a conspiracy!

Also lots of women have been having miscarriages, and people have been having heart attacks that are otherwise healthy etc etc.... 

Basically things that happen all the time are now because of the vaccine. And big pharma are going to murder people that speak out against the vaccine. 

These people always think they're the smartest people in the room too. Insufferable. 

palarsehater

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these c***s in charge have done. 

Huskaris

palarsehater said:

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these c***s in charge have done. 

I don't think there's much chance of the British public agreeing to do that ever again.

palarsehater

Huskaris said:

palarsehater said:

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these c***s in charge have done. 

I don't think there's much chance of the British public agreeing to do that ever again.

We didn’t agree to it last time it was forced on us. 

blackpool72

I shall have the jab when offered just the same as I have with all the other jabs.

But another lock down must never happen in my opinion it would do far more harm than the country can take. 

It would devastate an already weak economy. 
It would deprive children vital education. 
It would cause mental health problems for many thousands  .
I don't believe people would support another lock down. 

ShootersHillGuru

palarsehater said:

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these c***s in charge have done. 

You like everyone else that takes any vaccine know full well that there are possible side effects and risks. The information is there if you can be bothered to access it. You’re even informed of potential risks before they stick a needle in you. Sadly and unfortunately for you, you appear to be one of the people that does not respond well to the vaccine. Your two poorly episodes seem to indicate that. You now have information and experience to decide if you’ll be taking further boosters. Your choice. Please consider that just because you have had a bad experience don’t assume that everyone else also might. Most don’t. I’m glad your two previous infections with Covid have been mild. You’re fortunate. Not everyone has been or will be. There will not be anymore lockdowns for Covid. Stop listening to people like Tice and Fox and other right wing outlets that are at the root of many of the ridiculous views about Covid and the vaccines. 

Solidgone

blackpool72 said:

I shall have the jab when offered just the same as I have with all the other jabs.

But another lock down must never happen in my opinion it would do far more harm than the country can take. 

It would devastate an already weak economy. 
It would deprive children vital education. 
It would cause mental health problems for many thousands  .
I don't believe people would support another lock down. 

It will cause more dodgy hair cuts.

JamesSeed

Gillis said:

arny23394 said:

PeanutsMolloy said:

The relevance of the discovery of far higher than prescribed maximum levels of DNA in some vials is that it may explain this - the persistence in the bodies of vaccinated people for 6 months, potentially indefinitely, of vaccine-specific spike proteins (of different characteristics to those resulting from Covid infection) and their presence throughout the body, i.e. not confined to the injection site - both of these findings contrary to the claims of the manufacturers.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/new-study-detects-spike-protein-in-vaccinated-6-months-after-covid-19-vaccination-researchers-suggest-3-possible-reasons-5488364?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheChiefNerd&src_src=partner&src_cmp=TheChiefNerd

 

Epoch times isn’t a very reputable source.

I'd never heard of it, so to save anyone else that's in the same boat a trip to Wikipedia:

"The Epoch Times is a far-right[1] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement.[29] The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.[30] The Epoch Times has websites in 35 countries but is blocked in mainland China.[31]

The Epoch Times opposes the Chinese Communist Party,[32][33][22] platforms far-right politicians in Europe,[8][10][22] and has supported former President Donald Trump in the U.S.;[34][35] a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign itself.[30][36][22] The Epoch Times frequently runs stories promoting other Falun Gong-affiliated groups, such as the performing arts company Shen Yun.[34][24][37] The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have promoted conspiracy theories such as QAnon, anti-vaccine misinformation[41] and false claims of fraud in the 2020 United States presidential election.[44]"

My advice would be to stay well away from Epoch Times, and don’t believe a word it says. 

JamesSeed

blackpool72 said:

I shall have the jab when offered just the same as I have with all the other jabs.

But another lock down must never happen in my opinion it would do far more harm than the country can take. 

It would devastate an already weak economy. 
It would deprive children vital education. 
It would cause mental health problems for many thousands  .
I don't believe people would support another lock down. 

You’re probably right, but if there’s another pandemic where the virus is airborne and easily transmissible then there’s a danger that hospitals won’t be able to cope. With covid that almost happened, despite lockdowns, so what would happen if we just let the virus rip through the population unchecked? Worth considering imho. 

There’s a few on here who were lucky enough to have only suffered mild symptoms. Fair enough, but feels a bit ‘I’m alright Jack’ to me. Or have I got that wrong, which is possible?

bobmunro

Jab this afternoon for my wife and I - my fourth, her fifth.

lancashire lad

booked in for Saturday lunchtime, should be Ok for players marks

DaveMehmet

Had both done at Aspire in Sidcup this morning. For those in the area (I know a few on here have used them previously), you don't need to book and they're accepting walk ins. I had booked and was in and out in 5 minutes. 

palarsehater

ShootersHillGuru said:

palarsehater said:

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these cunts in charge have done. 

You like everyone else that takes any vaccine know full well that there are possible side effects and risks. The information is there if you can be bothered to access it. You’re even informed of potential risks before they stick a needle in you. Sadly and unfortunately for you, you appear to be one of the people that does not respond well to the vaccine. Your two poorly episodes seem to indicate that. You now have information and experience to decide if you’ll be taking further boosters. Your choice. Please consider that just because you have had a bad experience don’t assume that everyone else also might. Most don’t. I’m glad your two previous infections with Covid have been mild. You’re fortunate. Not everyone has been or will be. There will not be anymore lockdowns for Covid. Stop listening to people like Tice and Fox and other right wing outlets that are at the root of many of the ridiculous views about Covid and the vaccines. 

Amazing how you’ve got right wing in there but hey ho 

ShootersHillGuru

palarsehater said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

palarsehater said:

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these cunts in charge have done. 

You like everyone else that takes any vaccine know full well that there are possible side effects and risks. The information is there if you can be bothered to access it. You’re even informed of potential risks before they stick a needle in you. Sadly and unfortunately for you, you appear to be one of the people that does not respond well to the vaccine. Your two poorly episodes seem to indicate that. You now have information and experience to decide if you’ll be taking further boosters. Your choice. Please consider that just because you have had a bad experience don’t assume that everyone else also might. Most don’t. I’m glad your two previous infections with Covid have been mild. You’re fortunate. Not everyone has been or will be. There will not be anymore lockdowns for Covid. Stop listening to people like Tice and Fox and other right wing outlets that are at the root of many of the ridiculous views about Covid and the vaccines. 

Amazing how you’ve got right wing in there but hey ho 

Not really. Most of the nonsense spoken about the pandemic, Covid and vaccines emanate from right wing sources. See Epoch Times above. 

palarsehater

ShootersHillGuru said:

palarsehater said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

palarsehater said:

So for not having a vaccine I’m classed as thick etc. 

I’ve had 2 and the side affects were horrendous I was bed bound for 2/3 days.

pre vaccine I’ve had covid twice and it was little more than a cold 

if any nonesense like lockdowns starts I’m really hoping people don’t listen and continue to live there life we have already lost too much of ours by what these cunts in charge have done. 

You like everyone else that takes any vaccine know full well that there are possible side effects and risks. The information is there if you can be bothered to access it. You’re even informed of potential risks before they stick a needle in you. Sadly and unfortunately for you, you appear to be one of the people that does not respond well to the vaccine. Your two poorly episodes seem to indicate that. You now have information and experience to decide if you’ll be taking further boosters. Your choice. Please consider that just because you have had a bad experience don’t assume that everyone else also might. Most don’t. I’m glad your two previous infections with Covid have been mild. You’re fortunate. Not everyone has been or will be. There will not be anymore lockdowns for Covid. Stop listening to people like Tice and Fox and other right wing outlets that are at the root of many of the ridiculous views about Covid and the vaccines. 

Amazing how you’ve got right wing in there but hey ho 

Not really. Most of the nonsense spoken about the pandemic, Covid and vaccines emanate from right wing sources. See Epoch Times above. 

Most of the bollocks spewed about every subject is from some thought of wing 

bobmunro

bobmunro said:

Jab this afternoon for my wife and I - my fourth, her fifth.

Was only expecting the Covid jab and not planned on the flu one as I get that at work. The flu jab was on offer so, left arm Covid, right arm flu.

Friend Or Defoe

Each to their own but i loved lockdown and being paid to stay at home. Obviously i was in a fortunate position and if you are a business owner it would have been like living in a horror film or if you weren't being paid. I had so much free time and got loads done. Also i was extremely fortunate to not have any friends or family affected by the virus to worry about. It was like being retired but without being old. Apologies if this comes across as disrespectful to anyone who was affected.

BR7_addick

Friend Or Defoe said:

Each to their own but i loved lockdown and being paid to stay at home. Obviously i was in a fortunate position and if you are a business owner it would have been like living in a horror film or if you weren't being paid. I had so much free time and got loads done. Also i was extremely fortunate to not have any friends or family affected by the virus to worry about. It was like being retired but without being old. Apologies if this comes across as disrespectful to anyone who was affected.

The working from home shift was the best thing to come out of the pandemic for me.

The two hours a day five days a week I spent commuting has been swapped for more time actually working and seeing the kids.  Not to mentioned the money saved.  

DaveMehmet

DaveMehmet said:

Had both done at Aspire in Sidcup this morning. For those in the area (I know a few on here have used them previously), you don't need to book and they're accepting walk ins. I had booked and was in and out in 5 minutes. 

My arm’s a tiny bit sore but other than that, no reaction. Am pleased as the last couple made me feel quite rough, although more than worth it to minimise the risk of serious illness if/when you catch it.

peterreeves

Because of what I've been through I got the jab along with my family also on Monday. Both girls were fine except a sore arm, as for me absolute crap for three days but I'd rather have the jab than get covid. Funny thing was there were more walk-ins than the were booked places. I don't think the government have picked up on the fact that a lot of people really don't want to interact with the Internet. However, it was a good thing to see lots of people and offering the flu jab at the time was clever, I just wish though that we'd followed the USA and offered jabs to all ages especially the over 50's who would've got one last year but not this time.
Different times it seems and all about the money and resources I suppose which is why by next year it will probably be purchase your own covid vaccine from your chemist! 

Redskin

ShootersHillGuru

FFS

Huskaris

Redskin said:

If it weren't for your previous posts, I would have thought that was a very funny meme! Made me laugh!