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Sandgaard on Talksport today - 17/11/20
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Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?2 -
This interview has further shown the motivation of Farnelliot is a pay off.
I think it has weakened there hand and or is a desperate last act. As Jordan said if they believed they had the law behind them and or the will to take this on they would just do so and crack on with legal action.0 -
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?13 -
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?16 -
Fair question, however there is no evidence that Elliott put money in.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
An Investor doesn't get a refund when their investment fail, so why should he get his money back?
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MattF said:
".....and to keep having your name, an actual successful businessman, Mr Sandgaard, linked to court cases and other "bad press" which must be a bit of an embarrassment for you"
Again says the mind of Elliott/ Farnell:
"If I keep making a nuisance of myself eventually I'll get paid to shut up"1 -
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.2 -
Why should he get his money back? He knew it was going through the courts and he chose to take the risk. Why should TS pay for his stupidity?MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
If anyone is going to pay him back then it should be Nimer - he is free to chase Nimer for the money.4 -
He so far in months hasn't been able to evidence his investment. It has been said by several now that we were on the edge of administration before Sandgaard took over.
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I've been thinking about it this morning and I think you have a point. Roland, Southall and Nimer are in my opinion, bigger "enemies" than Elliott. However I think it is abundantly clear that Elliott (and Farnell) are only not in the same category because they didn't get the chance to do more damage. Your first question about being a bad person, for us it's obvious that Elliott didn't put the money in to pay the wages because he's a cracking bloke, and his end game wouldn't have seen him out of pocket.MillwallFan said:
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.
That being said, he doesn't deserve the money any less than others such as Southall or Nimer that's for sure.1 - Sponsored links:
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In fairness that doesn't mean Elliott didn't put any in. I'd imagine we were close to administration more so because of the money dickheads like Southall took out.Dazzler21 said:He so far in months hasn't been able to evidence his investment. It has been said by several now that we were on the edge of administration before Sandgaard took over.1 -
Nimer is the one Elliot(t) should be going after. I wouldn't disagree with that. I wouldn't be too bothered about it either, that is up to the two of them ultimately.1
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It's a long storyMillwallFan said:
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.8 -
I said along these lines when the court case was happening.MillwallFan said:
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.
If he's actually put funds in and kept us afloat then he should get some recourse.
Sandgaard has since said nobody from any of the ESI's put any money in. He's been pretty honest the whole way through this. Not sure why he'd lie about this detail?
It can't be to difficult to prove1 -
Absolutely, he had an agreement with Nimer who mugged him off. Nimer didn't deserve to profit from the club, nobody did but unfortunately one party was always going to because Sandgaard was willing to a fee greater than the £1 previously. I'm not against Elliott receiving that money (any more so than any of the others involved). But Sandgaard has paid that now, Elliott needs to pop over to the UAE and nicely ask for a share from Nimer. Closer to home he should be paying Southall a visit.MuttleyCAFC said:Nimer is the one Elliot(t) should be going after. I wouldn't disagree with that. I wouldn't be too bothered about it either, that is up to the two of them ultimately.2 -
I would have thought TS lawyer would have paid Elliott off last September?.Or make it clear TN owes Elliott the money.0
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Roland stays quiet.1
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He probably should get some recourse, but Sandgaard essentially gave that recourse when he bought the club. Whatever he paid for the club was more than £1, and therefore probably too much given what he could have saved had he bought us 8 months earlier. Sandgaard bought the club from ESI and it's not his problem that the money went to the owners of ESI at that point. Farnell and Elliott's stupidity have cost them that's for sure.carly burn said:
I said along these lines when the court case was happening.MillwallFan said:
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.
If he's actually put funds in and kept us afloat then he should get some recourse.
Sandgaard has since said nobody from any of the ESI's put any money in. He's been pretty honest the whole way through this. Not sure why he'd lie about this detail?
It can't be to difficult to prove0 -
What's it got to do with Roland. We all hate him but what do we expect him to do? Absolutely nothing to do with him and he's got clear agreements in place with Sandgaard.Valley27000 said:Roland stays quiet.4 -
Elliot(t) should pop over and threaten to punch Nimer if he doesn't hand over the money. As a renowned Peace Ambassador he will surely give it back to avoid a conflict.8
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Maybe he should get the money off NImer who will be the one who will have benefitted from whatever TS paid. Maybe, for some reason, he doesn't think that a likely option!MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?0 -
There is still nomproof to say that he put money in.MillwallFan said:
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.
Is he a bad person? Ask yourself this, why has the EFL not set a date for his appeal? The answer is, that he has not asked for one, thus leaving the club on the brink. He knew this. Now, is he a bad person?0 -
Pure clickbait from TalkSport and Murdoch's shock jock. This is hopefully the last bit of flailing around that we'll hear from Elliot, as he is rapidly running out of road. I don't understand what he is talking about when he says that, if Thomas doesn't come and talk to him, "we'll carry on with the court action." What court action ? The only legal proceeding on foot is the action against Panorama, where Lex Dominus have costs orders which they will never be able to enforce.
Thomas has got far too much class and nous to be drawn into the sort of slanging match which Elliot and TalkSport are trying to provoke.
If Elliot and his undisclosed consortium are serious about this, they should devote their time and energy to formulating a coherent pre-action letter of claim with their lawyers, rather than issuing misleading statements and chasing cheap publicity in an attempt to put pressure on the club and our new owner. That simply won't work.11 -
If he did put money in and can prove it, then he would at least have a claim to be repaid for it (fairly big if though.)MillwallFan said:
Doesn’t necessarily make him a bad person though if him doing so meant the wages got paid. Not sure why there’s so much hate? T_C_E said:cafc999 said:
If he did then he done so at his own risk as he did not own the club. If he wants it back go after the old owners.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
Maybe he has?
If I’d put sums of money in somewhere I’d at least have a receipt.MillwallFan said:
Playing devils advocate here, as I’m an outsider looking in and don’t know all the details, but if it’s proven that PE did put half a million in to keep the club afloat, when Nimar clearly wasn’t bothered about it, why is he being so unreasonable to expect his money back, and even a bit of profit? Would you write off half a million?Bexleyheath_Addick said:"Why hasn't anyone come to me and made an offer" - Shows he is just in it for the money, in black and white right there. Just wants to be paid off by Sandgaard.I mean, it looks like Nimar has come out of it with a bit of profit, and he never put a penny in?
honestly, I’m not on here fishing for a row or having a sly dig. Was just listening on talkSPORT and taken an interest. And was wondering if I’d missed something.
However even IF this is the case, that money is owed by Nimer and the owners of ESI. TS simply bought CAFC from ESI, he did not buy ESI itself and is therefore not bound or liable for any deals it made.
Elliott's problem is that the case he won was against Nimer who has promptly fucked off back home and can't be reached.2 -
Some fair points made. At the moment the courts have backed Elliott so it would seem he does have something up his sleeve. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.1
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The courts backed Elliott over the ownership of ESIMillwallFan said:Some fair points made. At the moment the courts have backed Elliott so it would seem he does have something up his sleeve. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Charlton Athletic was constantly disregarded as irrelevant in all the court cases which meant that ESI were free to sell what they had ownership of, they just couldn't sell themselves27 -
Not sure it's strictly accurate that the courts have backed Elliott based on what's in the public domain, the courts have struck off Nimer's defence for doing a runner and Elliott has won his ownership of ESI by defaultMillwallFan said:Some fair points made. At the moment the courts have backed Elliott so it would seem he does have something up his sleeve. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.10 -
This.ForeverAddickted said:
The courts backed Elliott over the ownership of ESIMillwallFan said:Some fair points made. At the moment the courts have backed Elliott so it would seem he does have something up his sleeve. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Charlton Athletic was constantly disregarded as irrelevant in all the court cases which meant that ESI were free to sell what they had ownership of, they just couldn't sell themselves1 -
I really hope TS gives PE nothing, zero, zip.
I want this bastard bankrupt (again).11 -
There is no evidence the court has backed Elliott over TS. No reason whatsoever to believe Elliott without any proof. as many of us have said, any claim for any money he may have put in is with the previous owner who sold to TSMillwallFan said:Some fair points made. At the moment the courts have backed Elliott so it would seem he does have something up his sleeve. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.1
