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Players Marks: Burton Albion v Charlton Athletic (Closes Wednesday evening)

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  • Amos; 6
    Matthews: 6
    Gunter: 4
    Pratley: 3
    Maatsen: 5
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 5
    Shinnie: 5.5
    Maddison: 4
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6 
    Aneke: 8
    Washington: 7
    Morgan: 7.5
    Referee: 6
  • Amos; 5 
    Matthews: 6 
    Gunter: 3.5 (a shocker, the wayward passing can't be blamed on being out of position)
    Pratley: 4 (should have been in midfield, where his energy was badly needed)
    Maatsen: 4 (defensively poor tonight, maybe he needs a rest or playing further up the field)
    Watson: 4.5 (he should have been the one sorting things out in midfield)
    Gilbey: 4.5 
    Shinnie: 5 (his worst game for us)
    Maddison: 4 (ineffective, not convinced he's suited to our style of play)
    Bogle: 5 (ineffective, but not his fault we were so poor in defence and midfield)
    Smyth: 6 (+1 for the goal as otherwise he barely got involved)
    Aneke: 7.5 (made a massive difference when he came on)
    Washington: 6 (lively but should have scored at least once)
    Morgan: 7.5 (excellent sub appearance)
    Referee: 5.5 (not great but better than most of our players)

  • Amos: 5 
    Matthews: 5 
    Gunter: 5
    Pratley: 5
    Maatsen: 6
    Watson: 6
    Gilbey: 5
    Shinnie: 5
    Maddison: 3 
    Bogle:  5
    Smyth: 5
    Aneke: 7
    Washington: 7 
    Morgan: 7

    Referee: 6
  • Amos: 4 - not much to do other than pick the ball out of the net. A horrendous error for the second goal
    Matthews: 5.5 - a catastrophe-free defensive performance but below par going forward
    Gunter: 4 - a night to forget. Presented the first goal to Burton on a plate
    Pratley: 4 - a bad night. Poor distribution and weak defending for the fourth goal
    Maatsen: 4.5 - a bit all over the place and I was worried he'd get himself sent off after the booking. Someone needed to have a word
    Watson: 4.5 - pedestrian and very slow when trying to win back the ball. In danger of accumulating the all-time Charlton record for bookings in a single season (whatever that may be)
    Gilbey: 4.5 - looked unfit and was, curiously, stuck out on the left in the first half. A bit better in the second
    Shinnie: 4.5 - largely anonymous and unable to influence the game 
    Maddison: 3 - one decent shot but otherwise conceded possession practically every time he had the ball (rather like at Gillingham on Saturday). Allied to an inability to contribute defensively, it is not a winning contribution. We cannot carry a passenger
    Bogle: 5 - largely ineffective during the short time he was on
    Smyth: 5.5 - limited involvement when he was on, although the goal will hopefully help his confidence
    Aneke: 8 - a constant thorn in Burton's side and his bicycle kick was sublime
    Washington: 7 - made some good runs when he came on and could easily have scored a brace. He helped - with Aneke and Morgan - to bring some discernible pattern to our attacking play
    Morgan: 8 - outstanding again 
    Referee: 6 - generally ok, although he went card happy towards the end and ended up booking 5 of our players in what was a pretty clean and fairly contested game
  • Amos; 5
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 5
    Pratley: 5
    Maatsen: 4 Please give him a rest
    Watson: 6
    Gilbey: 5 didn’t show enough for the second pass
    Shinnie: 5 again, not enough without the ball
    Maddison: 3 hiding. Didn’t want the ball.
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 7
    Aneke: 7
    Washington: 6
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 8 a bit card happy toward the end, but solid
  • Amos; 5.5
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 3.5
    Pratley: 4.5
    Maatsen: 4
    Watson: 6
    Gilbey: 6
    Shinnie: 6
    Maddison: 5
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6.5
    Aneke: 7.5
    Washington: 7
    Morgan: 7.5
    Referee: 5
  • Amos; 5.5 - 
    Matthews: 5 - 
    Gunter: 3.5 - dreadful. 
    Pratley: 4.5 - 
    Maatsen: 4 - worst performance for us 
    Watson: 6 - tried to get things going, but slow at times 
    Gilbey: 5 - Rusty and not a wife left player 
    Shinnie: 5 - forgot he was playing 
    Maddison: 4 - not fit at all 
    Bogle: 4 - needs to come out of the team 
    Smyth: 6.5 - pleased he got a goal. 
    Aneke: 6 - what a goal. Needs to be starting games 
    Washington: 6.5 - got in to decent positions, should have had at least 1 goal 
    Morgan: 7 - excellent in the time he was in the pitch 
    Referee: 5
  • Amos; 4
    Matthews: 6
    Gunter: 4
    Pratley: 4
    Maatsen: 3
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 6
    Shinnie: 6
    Maddison: 4
    Bogle: 4
    Smyth: 5
    Aneke: 6
    Washington: 5.5
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 3
  • Amos;  4
    Matthews:  6
    Gunter:  3
    Pratley:  5
    Maatsen: 3
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 5
    Shinnie: 5
    Maddison: 5
    Bogle: 2
    Smyth: 5
    Aneke: 7
    Washington: 6.5
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 4
  • Amos; 4
    Matthews: 6
    Gunter: 4
    Pratley: 4
    Maatsen: 5
    Watson: 4
    Gilbey: 5
    Shinnie: 6
    Maddison: 4
    Bogle: 4
    Smyth: 6
    Aneke: 7.5
    Washington: 6.5
    Morgan: 7.5
    Referee: 6
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  • Amos; 5.5
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 5
    Pratley: 5
    Maatsen: 5.5
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 5.5
    Shinnie: 6
    Maddison: 5
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6
    Aneke: 7
    Washington: 6
    Morgan: 7.5
    Referee: 5
  • Amos: 2
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 3
    Pratley: 4
    Maatsen: 4 
    Watson: 4
    Gilbey: 4
    Shinnie: 5
    Maddison: 3 
    Bogle: 3
    Smyth: 5

    Aneke: 7
    Washington:6 
    Morgan: 7
  • our marks please 0.5 to 10 in whole or half marks:

    Amos;  7
    Matthews: 6
    Gunter: 5
    Pratley:  5
    Maatsen:  5 His first poor showing
    Watson:  6  just very very slow
    Gilbey:  5 just very slow
    Shinnie:  6 just very slow
    Maddison:  3 awful again
    Bogle:  5
    Smyth:  5  headless chicken 
    Aneke:  7
    Washington: 7
    Morgan:  7
    Referee:  5

    Williams: n/a

  • Amos; 3
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 3
    Pratley: 4
    Maatsen: 4
    Watson: 4.5
    Gilbey: 4.5
    Shinnie: 4.5
    Maddison: 4
    Bogle: 3
    Smyth: 4.5
    Aneke: 6
    Washington: 5.5
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 3

  • Amos;  4
    Matthews: 7
    Gunter: 4
    Pratley: 6
    Maatsen: 4
    Watson: 6
    Gilbey: 4
    Shinnie: 3
    Maddison: 3
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6
    Aneke: 7
    Washington: 6
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 5
  • Amos; 5
    Matthews: 4  
    Gunter: 3.5  
    Pratley: 4 
    Maatsen: 4  
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 4.5  
    Shinnie: 5.5  
    Maddison: 4  
    Bogle: 4  
    Smyth: 6 
    Aneke: 6  
    Washington: 6 
    Morgan: 7  
    Referee: 5


  • Amos; 5 some fumbles and certainly to blame for one of the goals
    Matthews: 6 played pretty well
    Gunter: 5 off colour today and cost us a goal
    Pratley: 5 too slow, not a CB
    Maatsen: 7 - saw a lot of the ball and looked good going forward, some silly errors, wrong studs?
    Watson: 6 too slow and defensive today
    Gilbey: 5 - one beautiful pass to put Washington through on goal but very rusty and not sure yet he’s any better than Morgan
    Shinnie: 5.5 - subdued today for some reason, out of position at the start maybe?
    Maddison: 5 - poor response to being subbed off
    Bogle: 4.5 - oh dear
    Smyth: 7.5 - tried hard and scored
    Aneke: 8 - always a threat and nicely taken goal
    Washington: 7 - always works hard and can be a threat, unlucky not to score today
    Morgan: 9 MOM should be starting every game 
    Referee: 7 - not bad for L1

    Williams: n/a

  • Bad day at the office all round.  Usually a couple of players are not at the races but we had 6 or 7 way below par last night

    Amos; 5 - Nothing stuck.  Evey shot seemed to sneak by him.  
    Matthews: 5 Part of a hapless back four last night.
    Gunter: 5 - Part of a hapless back four last night.
    Pratley: 5 - Part of a hapless back four last night.
    Maatsen: 6 - Part of a hapless back four last night but showed some decent attacking intent.
    Watson: 6 - Still not convinced by him
    Gilbey: 6 Rusty
    Shinnie: 6 - Too deep.  Don't need him so deep with Watson there.  It effective means we have 6 at the back and no options going forwad
    Maddison: 4 - Way out of sorts at t he moment
    Bogle: 5 Bad night. Wasn't sure if he got a knock or was just having a stinker
    Smyth: 6 Ran arond a fair bit but certainly seems more of an impact sub than anything else
    Aneke: 7 Lovely goal.  Got to wonder why he's not fit given we just had an international break.
    Washington: 7 Looked menacing
    Morgan: 8 Looked classy
    Referee: 5 Why to physically smaller refs tend to be the most obstinate ones!  Small man syndrome really is a thing.  A couple of bookings given unnecessarily too
  • Amos; 5.5 - 
    Matthews: 5 - 
    Gunter: 3.5 - dreadful. 
    Pratley: 4.5 - 
    Maatsen: 4 - worst performance for us 
    Watson: 6 - tried to get things going, but slow at times 
    Gilbey: 5 - Rusty and not a wife left player 
    Shinnie: 5 - forgot he was playing 
    Maddison: 4 - not fit at all 
    Bogle: 4 - needs to come out of the team 
    Smyth: 6.5 - pleased he got a goal. 
    Aneke: 6 - what a goal. Needs to be starting games 
    Washington: 6.5 - got in to decent positions, should have had at least 1 goal 
    Morgan: 7 - excellent in the time he was in the pitch 
    Referee: 5
    @ricky_otto is that a typo? Or have you deducted him half a mark for getting in the way of that  shot of Washington's?
  • aliwibble said:
    Amos; 5.5 - 
    Matthews: 5 - 
    Gunter: 3.5 - dreadful. 
    Pratley: 4.5 - 
    Maatsen: 4 - worst performance for us 
    Watson: 6 - tried to get things going, but slow at times 
    Gilbey: 5 - Rusty and not a wife left player 
    Shinnie: 5 - forgot he was playing 
    Maddison: 4 - not fit at all 
    Bogle: 4 - needs to come out of the team 
    Smyth: 6.5 - pleased he got a goal. 
    Aneke: 6 - what a goal. Needs to be starting games 
    Washington: 6.5 - got in to decent positions, should have had at least 1 goal 
    Morgan: 7 - excellent in the time he was in the pitch 
    Referee: 5
    @ricky_otto is that a typo? Or have you deducted him half a mark for getting in the way of that  shot of Washington's?
    No no, that’s my mark for him. Maybe a bit harsh. 
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  • Amos; 5
    Matthews: 5 
    Gunter: 4.5
    Pratley: 4.5
    Maatsen: 5
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 5.5
    Shinnie: 5.5
    Maddison:4 
    Bogle: 4
    Smyth: 5
    Aneke: 6.5
    Washington: 6 
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 5
  • edited November 2020


    Amos; 5 some fumbles and certainly to blame for one of the goals
    Matthews: 6 played pretty well
    Gunter: 5 off colour today and cost us a goal
    Pratley: 5 too slow, not a CB
    Maatsen: 7 - saw a lot of the ball and looked good going forward, some silly errors, wrong studs?
    Watson: 6 too slow and defensive today
    Gilbey: 5 - one beautiful pass to put Washington through on goal but very rusty and not sure yet he’s any better than Morgan
    Shinnie: 5.5 - subdued today for some reason, out of position at the start maybe?
    Maddison: 5 - poor response to being subbed off
    Bogle: 4.5 - oh dear
    Smyth: 7.5 - tried hard and scored
    Aneke: 8 - always a threat and nicely taken goal
    Washington: 7 - always works hard and can be a threat, unlucky not to score today
    Morgan: 9 MOM should be starting every game 
    Referee: 7 - not bad for L1

    Williams: n/a

    Maatsen 7......WTF!!!!
  • Amos; 4
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 4.5
    Pratley: 5
    Maatsen: 5
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 4.5
    Shinnie: 4.5
    Maddison: 4.5
    Bogle: 4
    Smyth: 5
    Aneke: 6
    Washington: 5
    Morgan: 4.5
    Referee: 5
  • Amos; 7 - Apart from the 2nd goal, had a good game
    Matthews: 6 - Huff and puff and no return
    Gunter: 5 - Woeful
    Pratley: 4.5 - Even worse
    Maatsen: 4 - Sometimes everything goes wrong; for him, it did
    Watson: 5 - Big time charlie
    Gilbey: 5 - Out of position on left
    Shinnie: 5.5 - Tried but it didn't work
    Maddison: 6 - Put in some good crosses but not enough involvement
    Bogle: 4.5 - pretty awful
    Smyth: 5.5 - Scored but did little else
    Aneke: 7 - Massive improvement on those around him
    Washington: 6.5 - Up for it
    Morgan: 7.5 (MoM) - made a big difference and immediate improvement
    Referee: 5 - Some of the bookings were ridiculous!
  • Amos;  4
    Matthews: 5
    Gunter: 4
    Pratley: 4
    Maatsen: 4
    Watson: 4
    Gilbey: 4
    Shinnie: 4
    Maddison: 4
    Bogle: 4
    Smyth: 5
    Aneke: 6
    Washington: 6
    Morgan: 6
    Referee 4



  • (Either way Charlton have been rumbled because Fleetwood, Gillingham and Burton all did this from the start to disrupt us. And it works. )


    It's been the same for a couple of years - when people apply a high press we cannot handle it.  Teams know if they allow us possession we will give it back to them when pressed.  This isn't really a surprise and has been really evident for a while.  We don't have the ball playing defenders that can punish teams when they do this to us.  What the great teams do is still play it around, tire the opposition and get them to commit players forward to press and leave gaps in behind.  Liverpool have done it for a while with their 3 strikers but the injuries mean they players stepping in to the team are not quite up to speed and it leaves gaps - hence them looking slightly more fallible now.
    Burton did their homework and any opposition scout worth their salt will recommend the same to their team.

    We need to find a way to counter this high press
  • Amos; 5 Poor for the second goal, not completely blameless for the 3rd
    Matthews: 4 Seemed lost on the ball
    Gunter: 4 shocking game, need to play proper CBs
    Pratley: 4 No where near commanding enough
    Maatsen: 4 Better going forward than back, some silly fouls
    Watson: 4 Prefer Prats in midfield, didn't offer much today
    Gilbey: 5 Struggled, clearly not match fit
    Shinnie: 5 some good touches, but seemed to be devoid of support in there
    Maddison:4 clearly not match fit and it shows
    Bogle: 3 poor mans Aneke
    Smyth: 5 Took his goal well, not much else
    Aneke: 7.5 Offers so much more than Bogle. Wonderful goal
    Washington: 7 Buzzed around a lot, should have scored
    Morgan: 8 (MOM) Our best player by a margin yesterday. Did more in his minutes than the rest of the midfielders combined over 90.
    Referee: 4.5

    Williams: n/a
  • Amos; 4
    Matthews: 6 
    Gunter: 5
    Pratley: 5
    Maatsen: 4
    Watson: 4
    Gilbey: 5
    Shinnie: 6
    Maddison: 2 
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6
    Aneke: 6
    Washington: 6 
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 4
  • Amos; 4 
    Matthews: 6
    Gunter: 3.5
    Pratley: 4.5
    Maatsen: 5
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 5.5
    Shinnie: 6
    Maddison: 4.5
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6
    Aneke: 7.5
    Washington: 6
    Morgan: 7.5 - Changed the game when he came on
    Referee: 5
  • edited November 2020
    Amos; 5
    Matthews: 6
    Gunter: 4.5
    Pratley: 5
    Maatsen: 5
    Watson: 5
    Gilbey: 5
    Shinnie: 5
    Maddison: 4.5
    Bogle: 5
    Smyth: 6
    Aneke: 7.5
    Washington: 6
    Morgan: 7
    Referee: 5
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