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Harsh on Williams today

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  • CHG said:
    CHG said:
    Looks like great man management from Bows. 

    To be fair it is also testament to William's character to come back like this. Top lad.


    Agree, good character to bounce back. Bowyer got the response he was looking for. Win win. 

    Definitley.
  • CHG said:
    Looks like great man management from Bows. 
    agree
  • Hard to argue with the management after that 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • edited December 2020
    Might not like the method, but can't argue with the result.

    Shame to be critical, but Williams really shouldn't be hitting the post from 1-yard out. Should have scored two. Other than that thought he was brilliant when he came on and finally showed a bit of determination and drive.
  • edited December 2020
    Im pleased Jonny scored today, I even said out loud whilst watching the game how good it would be if he came on and scored, he needs to keep working hard, wish we could close this thread, move on and put this episode behind us.
  • Hmm, well all I'll say is that I'm glad it worked out, and it does do Bowyer some credit that he turned to Williams in our hour of need today 
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  • We’ll never know for sure if the way Bowyer treated Williams helped or not. Personally I still think it was excessive and Williams has been improving anyway - he was already starting to effect games more and a performance like today’s was brewing, regardless. That said, it was definitely made into a bigger issue on here than it really was. 

    What we can say for certain is it didn’t hinder things. Williams was great today and Bows post match comments were spot on. If you’re going to knock people down you have to be willing to build them back up and Bows did that today, as he has in the past with other players. 

    Really hope Jonny can continue to build on it, we look a much better side when he’s in it and playing well. 
  • Off_it said:
    Leuth said:
    Hmm, well all I'll say is that I'm glad it worked out, and it does do Bowyer some credit that he turned to Williams in our hour of need today 
    And it does Williams credit that he took on board what Bowyer was telling him and upped his game today. Surely the point is that we all know he CAN do it, he just needs to do it more often. If giving him a public bollocking helps him produce his best then it's a job well done all round.
    Indeed 
  • Maybe a change to the thread title needed, nothing wrong with Williams
    today, and certainly put himself about in a great team performance.
  • Great man management by Bow, and excellent response by JW, no matter what some of the nambys on here thought.....
    Onwards and upwards.
  • PWR. I thought it was a good decision to take him off last week. He’d given the ball away  very cheaply twice in a short space of time and it looked like he had shirked a tackle. To me it looked like something was up and he was heading for a serious injury and my first thought was he had been taken off to protect him as much as to protect the team - NEVER SHIRK A TACKLE BOYS AND GIRLS YOU WONT WIN THE BALL AND YOU WILL COME OFF WORSE. Yesterday he was back on his game and it showed, big time.
  • edited December 2020
    I wish we could start Williams and Maddison in the same team, get the game done by half time, 3 or 4 up and take one off, go for it from the first whistle, no mercy!
  • Williams stayed on his feet and drive forwards riding a tackle or two yesterday rather than fall at every touch.  It produced results.  He needs to continue like that.
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  • CHG said:
    Looks like great man management from Bows. 
    Why because he scored.

    Whose to say he wouldnt have scored had Bowyer kept him on the other day.

    Williams scoring today doesnt justify what Bowyer did to him the other day
    Williams had his best game and scored as well.
    Amazing coincidence after 2.5 years and definitely nothing to do with last week's wake up call.
  • edited December 2020
    There was movement around Williams yesterday. Players look better sometimes because of the way the team plays, not just them. I would suggest we start the game against Bristol Rovers, pretending we are one or two down from the start. I thought we were pretty turgid in the first half and Wimbledon went in deserving their lead.
  • There was movement around Williams yesterday. Players look better sometimes because of the way the team plays, not just them. I would suggest we start the game against Bristol Rovers, pretending we are one or two down from the start. I thought we were pretty turgid in the first half and Wimbledon went in deserving their lead.
    Better yet, get Naby down on an emergency loan for Sarr special
  • There was movement around Williams yesterday. Players look better sometimes because of the way the team plays, not just them. I would suggest we start the game against Bristol Rovers, pretending we are one or two down from the start. I thought we were pretty turgid in the first half and Wimbledon went in deserving their lead.
    Better yet, get Naby down on an emergency loan for Sarr special
    No thanks he gifted another goal by passing to the opposition this week.
    2 weeks running he's given away a goal.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    AndyG said:
    I have been one of the people giving Jonny William's a bit of a roasting on here, that is because what we saw yesterday is what he should be doing every game. He drove forward going past people and being positive. It has been so frustrating watching him the last few months just running in circles and trying to win cheap fouls, he is better than that and hopefully he will continue on from yesterday
    One of the reasons (admittedly not the only reason) he runs round in circles is there is noone moving for him to pass to.  Its no coincidence the best spell JW has had for us was in a team that had Gallagher, Taylor and Leko in it.

    It's a shame we never saw him with Aribo, Taylor and Grant because that would have been something in league 1.
    I saw him in league one with the above, where were you ? 
  • edited December 2020
    Cafc43v3r said:
    AndyG said:
    I have been one of the people giving Jonny William's a bit of a roasting on here, that is because what we saw yesterday is what he should be doing every game. He drove forward going past people and being positive. It has been so frustrating watching him the last few months just running in circles and trying to win cheap fouls, he is better than that and hopefully he will continue on from yesterday
    One of the reasons (admittedly not the only reason) he runs round in circles is there is noone moving for him to pass to.  Its no coincidence the best spell JW has had for us was in a team that had Gallagher, Taylor and Leko in it.

    It's a shame we never saw him with Aribo, Taylor and Grant because that would have been something in league 1.
    I saw him in league one with the above, where were you ? 
    4 games between Williams signing and Grant leaving, Aribo missed all 4.  Where were you? :wink:
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    AndyG said:
    I have been one of the people giving Jonny William's a bit of a roasting on here, that is because what we saw yesterday is what he should be doing every game. He drove forward going past people and being positive. It has been so frustrating watching him the last few months just running in circles and trying to win cheap fouls, he is better than that and hopefully he will continue on from yesterday
    One of the reasons (admittedly not the only reason) he runs round in circles is there is noone moving for him to pass to.  Its no coincidence the best spell JW has had for us was in a team that had Gallagher, Taylor and Leko in it.

    It's a shame we never saw him with Aribo, Taylor and Grant because that would have been something in league 1.
    I saw him in league one with the above, where were you ? 
    4 games between Williams signing and Grant leaving, Aribo missed all 4.  Where were you? :wink:
    And Taylor suspended for 3 games.


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