**Peterborough V Charlton 29th Dec - Postponed**

letthegoodtimesroll

Bedsaddick said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

clive said:

paulie8290 said:

So they need to isolate for 10 days, so wont be able to train then the following day are due to have a possible 6 pointer against another promotion chasing team without any training on matches for 10 days so will be cold, so call it off

Seems very suspect to me.

Clubs are now using Covid for their advantage, which is wrong and needs to be looked at, there is absolutely no reason for our game to be off, if they still have covid in 10 days then fair enough, but right now, they are using a global pandemic as an excuse which is poor

Postponing games unnecessarily could be a very dodgy ploy this season, we could get a covid outbbreak in our squad at anytime later in the season or a period of severe weather could lead to postponements.
Postponing games for tactical reasons will likely backfire on any team this season.

Could backfire on posh if that player of theirs who seems to be scoring for fun moves on in the January window before they play the rearranged game

They won't be selling Clarke Harris in the January window

Money talks, especially given the current pandemic 

golfaddick

paulie8290 said:

So they need to isolate for 10 days, so wont be able to train then the following day are due to have a possible 6 pointer against another promotion chasing team without any training or matches for 10 days so will be cold, so call it off

Seems very suspect to me.

Clubs are now using Covid for their advantage, which is wrong and needs to be looked at, there is absolutely no reason for our game to be off, if they still have covid in 10 days then fair enough, but right now, they are using a global pandemic as an excuse which is poor

I said similar after the BR game was called off & Sunderland's weren't. It seems it's open season as to when you can claim Covid & call off games.

If the Government says 10 days isolation then thats what it should be. We should be making protestations to the EFL & NOT agreeing to the game being called off. We should turn up on the 29th ready to play. If they don't then they forfeit the fixture. No other option. 10 days is 10 days. Not 11. Otherwise teams will push it to 12, 13 or even 14 days.  

Ferryman

Was really looking forward to it over Xmas hols...

letthegoodtimesroll

I can’t see why everybody is moaning. With TS the club is in a better position than it has been in years and probably in a far better position than the rest of the division. Pushing the midweek games back until we’ve got some key players back and brought in one or two others to strengthen the squad is the perfect scenario for us. We play Hull away a few days after we were scheduled to play Peterborough so the extra break will do the players good.

shine166

letthegoodtimesroll said:

I can’t see why everybody is moaning. With TS the club is in a better position than it has been in years and probably in a far better position than the rest of the division. Pushing the midweek games back until we’ve got some key players back and brought in one or two others to strengthen the squad is the perfect scenario for us. We play Hull away a few days after we were scheduled to play Peterborough so the extra break will do the players good.

Luckily we are great at winning games in hand...

Bedsaddick

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Bedsaddick said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

clive said:

paulie8290 said:

So they need to isolate for 10 days, so wont be able to train then the following day are due to have a possible 6 pointer against another promotion chasing team without any training on matches for 10 days so will be cold, so call it off

Seems very suspect to me.

Clubs are now using Covid for their advantage, which is wrong and needs to be looked at, there is absolutely no reason for our game to be off, if they still have covid in 10 days then fair enough, but right now, they are using a global pandemic as an excuse which is poor

Postponing games unnecessarily could be a very dodgy ploy this season, we could get a covid outbbreak in our squad at anytime later in the season or a period of severe weather could lead to postponements.
Postponing games for tactical reasons will likely backfire on any team this season.

Could backfire on posh if that player of theirs who seems to be scoring for fun moves on in the January window before they play the rearranged game

They won't be selling Clarke Harris in the January window

Money talks, especially given the current pandemic 

It does but January is too soon. They might well cash in in the summer but not while they are top 6 . 

moutuakilla

letthegoodtimesroll said:

I can’t see why everybody is moaning. With TS the club is in a better position than it has been in years and probably in a far better position than the rest of the division. Pushing the midweek games back until we’ve got some key players back and brought in one or two others to strengthen the squad is the perfect scenario for us. We play Hull away a few days after we were scheduled to play Peterborough so the extra break will do the players good.

But that just pushes the congestion further into the season and we are likely to pick up more injuries with a fixture pile up. It pushes the problem further down the road. I imagine a lot of people were looking forward to watching some Charlton related football in the purgatory between Xmas and new years too. 

moutuakilla

Wouldn't surprise me if Charlton agreed to postpone it as it's 'the right thing to do'

MartinCAFC

If another game gets called off on the 29th I wonder if we can bring forward a game with someone else affected and what the latest date would be to do this?

clb74

golfaddick said:

paulie8290 said:

So they need to isolate for 10 days, so wont be able to train then the following day are due to have a possible 6 pointer against another promotion chasing team without any training or matches for 10 days so will be cold, so call it off

Seems very suspect to me.

Clubs are now using Covid for their advantage, which is wrong and needs to be looked at, there is absolutely no reason for our game to be off, if they still have covid in 10 days then fair enough, but right now, they are using a global pandemic as an excuse which is poor

I said similar after the BR game was called off & Sunderland's weren't. It seems it's open season as to when you can claim Covid & call off games.

If the Government says 10 days isolation then thats what it should be. We should be making protestations to the EFL & NOT agreeing to the game being called off. We should turn up on the 29th ready to play. If they don't then they forfeit the fixture. No other option. 10 days is 10 days. Not 11. Otherwise teams will push it to 12, 13 or even 14 days.  

Blimey it really is a dog eat dog situation.

Todds_right_hook

Why can’t the Peterborough players train at home?

Todds_right_hook

moutuakilla said:

Wouldn't surprise me if Charlton agreed to postpone it as it's 'the right thing to do'

Why is it the right thing to do? Did our opposition allow the game to be called off when we had two players isolating? 

11 days is outside of isolation timescales. The game should go ahead or be forfeited 

ShootersHillGuru

Schwartz and whoever will be available for the re arranged fixture. Might ultimately work in our favour.

fmaddick

At my count, we lost 2 (or 3?) games on most teams due to internationals prior to Xmas, and may lose a couple more later in the season.

We gained back FA Cup Second round day. 

We’ve lost Bristol Rovers and Peterborough. 

If we were to be in a similar situation to those clubs and miss 2/3 games due to Covid, we’d be in a hell of a rush to get games finished I’d think

clb74

Be surprised if the season makes the 29th

Redrobo

Todds_right_hook said:

Why can’t the Peterborough players train at home?

Or train on line 😀

I thought if you followed the guidelines you would only be risking players in pairs. Has someone been breaking the rules at the club?

killerandflash

The EFL really need to confirm the Covid procedures, as it's a mess at the moment. You have teams like Sunderland not sure whether they have to play or not, then you have Posh postponing a game played after the self isolation period has finished. It shouldn't be down to the clubs to decide whether they are interpreting the government rules correctly

clb74

killerandflash said:

The EFL really need to confirm the Covid procedures, as it's a mess at the moment. You have teams like Sunderland not sure whether they have to play or not, then you have Posh postponing a game played after the self isolation period has finished. It shouldn't be down to the clubs to decide whether they are interpreting the government rules correctly

The efl couldn't confirm wether a bath was running or not

Valley11

What a load of bollocks. The entire squad? 

Might as well suspend the season then if it’s that serious. 

redbuttle

Bedsaddick said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Bedsaddick said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

clive said:

paulie8290 said:

So they need to isolate for 10 days, so wont be able to train then the following day are due to have a possible 6 pointer against another promotion chasing team without any training on matches for 10 days so will be cold, so call it off

Seems very suspect to me.

Clubs are now using Covid for their advantage, which is wrong and needs to be looked at, there is absolutely no reason for our game to be off, if they still have covid in 10 days then fair enough, but right now, they are using a global pandemic as an excuse which is poor

Postponing games unnecessarily could be a very dodgy ploy this season, we could get a covid outbbreak in our squad at anytime later in the season or a period of severe weather could lead to postponements.
Postponing games for tactical reasons will likely backfire on any team this season.

Could backfire on posh if that player of theirs who seems to be scoring for fun moves on in the January window before they play the rearranged game

They won't be selling Clarke Harris in the January window

Money talks, especially given the current pandemic 

It does but January is too soon. They might well cash in in the summer but not while they are top 6 . 

They might sell Dembele then though.

cafc4ever

Hang on, didn't Dylan Levitt get Covid? And Deji had to self-isolate, and at the moment Albie has to self isolate. If Posh only have a single confirmed case why have our fixtures gone ahead? 
With the frequency of testing professional footballers are getting I struggle to understand the need for the whole squad to isolate. Surely the regular testing would pick up if the virus is spreading through the squad - and then if considerable numbers - fixtures should be postponed. Feels like overkill to me

Chippycafc

ShootersHillGuru said:

Schwartz and whoever will be available for the re arranged fixture. Might ultimately work in our favour.

Agreed mate but he will get injured in training and be out for the season.

SantaClaus

I wonder if teams are statistically more likely to call off games against stronger teams than weaker one's? Postponing harder games in the hope they're never played is a good strategy if the season's decided on PPG.

MattF

Suppose the big issue will be whether the players are asymptomatic or not, in the case of Levitt it was known he had been sent home with a high temperature, but if a positive test has been returned by an asymptomatic player then they will have been in close contact with most of the players and staff at that club

golfaddick

SantaClaus said:

I wonder if teams are statistically more likely to call off games against stronger teams than weaker one's? Postponing harder games in the hope they're never played is a good strategy if the season's decided on PPG.

This is why 10 days means 10 days. You follow rules or people die (to quote A Few Good Men). You can't simply make rules up to fit your needs.

I don't expect either CAFC or the EFL to do anything about it though. All spineless imo. 

killerandflash

cafc4ever said:

Hang on, didn't Dylan Levitt get Covid? And Deji had to self-isolate, and at the moment Albie has to self isolate. If Posh only have a single confirmed case why have our fixtures gone ahead? 
With the frequency of testing professional footballers are getting I struggle to understand the need for the whole squad to isolate. Surely the regular testing would pick up if the virus is spreading through the squad - and then if considerable numbers - fixtures should be postponed. Feels like overkill to me

3 other Posh players have symptoms

I've said this before, but football rules seem to be a weird hybrid between football specific protocol (enabling matches and training to go ahead with no distancing) and following government rules on self isolation. It's summed up by the nonsense of teams still having to enter the pitch separately, despite the players then spending the next 100 minutes in super close contact

Chris_from_Sidcup

Surely their 10 days isolation started today, which means it'd end midnight 27th, they could do some light training 28th then play us on the 29th.

Seems crazy they can just call it off.

killerandflash

Bristol Rovers have their outbreak on the 15th, but will play their game on the 26th 11 days later
Peterborough have their outbreak on the 18th, but won't play their game on the 29th 11 days later

?

Lordflashheart

Bournemouth Addick said:

SouthWest_Addicks said:

Got to be double headers at the end of the season like they do in junior football. Much more exciting for everyone. 

Used to love a double header back in the day. Everybody blowing out their backside after a game only to have to change ends and start all over again.

*edit - reading the above it all sounds rather rude too! 

My Sunday league team were top of the table going into the final matches 2 seasons in a row - both seasons we had to play double headers on each of the last 2 weekends - completely shattering, and we ended up finishing 3rd both seasons because we blew up in the final matches - gutting

Algarveaddick

clb74 said:

paulie8290 said:

clb74 said:

paulie8290 said:

So they need to isolate for 10 days, so wont be able to train then the following day are due to have a possible 6 pointer against another promotion chasing team without any training on matches for 10 days so will be cold, so call it off

Seems very suspect to me.

Clubs are now using Covid for their advantage, which is wrong and needs to be looked at, there is absolutely no reason for our game to be off, if they still have covid in 10 days then fair enough, but right now, they are using a global pandemic as an excuse which is poor

So you think Peterborough want a fixture pile up

Probably prefer to play 2 fixtures in a week throughout jan and feb than play a promotion rival on the back off no training for 10 days yes

And what happens 2 months down the line they have to self isolate again

Unless I have missed something - are you suggesting they should be allowed 11 days self isolation, just in case something happens in two months time @clb74? Or do you know something we don't?