Think it's down to whatever makes the most money tbh. Reckon that if they felt they'd raise more funds banning em / issuing fines, reckon they'd be banned.
Tbh those electric scooters are a weird one - It went from the police informing people that they were breaking the law by using on public pavements and roadways, because they are motorised and they weren't covered by any kind of insurance to, almost overnight, just about every large city in the UK, renting em out to anyone and everyone, regardless of age or ability.
The ones you rent in city’s are off the council so they say they’re government approved/serviced etc basically, you can use them if you’re paying us to use them (and not on the pavement)
So Dave oh wise one off the pavements and roads what’s your opinion on the mobility scooters. Some off them are quite fast nowadays should they be on road or pavement.
I would expect people in need of mobility assistance to use the pavement however I know some folk like to ride in the side of the road in quieter areas
what’s your point?
There bigger and heavier and would probably cause more injury to a pedestrian if hit by one.
This is all irrelevant though it’s the person in charge of it and how they use it that makes it dangerous but you seem to want to tar everyone with the same brush.
I’ve already stated there are bad cyclists and bad motorists.
I had a cyclist suddenly turn right without signally going from left of road right across me the other day if I wasn’t giving him more attention and room and had overtaken him like some motorists do he could be seriously injured or worse now.
Point being the cyclist is more vulnerable than a pedestrian on the road I certainly wouldn’t let my kids cycle on a road nowadays. something else I think is wrong that I see now is motorists cyclists and even pedestrians and pedestrians are probably worse is with headphones in how can you hear what’s around you the amount of times I’ve had to stop because a pedestrian is crossing a road oblivious to traffic
Adult cyclists are not allowed to use the pavement to cycle on (unless it’s a dual purpose path and that’ll be marked for cyclists)
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?
I never said cyclists should cycle on the pavement I stated I cycle on the road all I said is I can’t blame some for cycling on pavements because roads are so dangerous.More dangerous to a cyclist than a cyclist is to a pedestrian on a pavement.
How many times and ways do I have to explain that to you.
If you don’t believe me get on a bike and have a ride around you might just might change your mind
Adult cyclists are not allowed to use the pavement to cycle on (unless it’s a dual purpose path and that’ll be marked for cyclists)
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?
I never said cyclists should cycle on the pavement I stated I cycle on the road all I said is I can’t blame some for cycling on pavements because roads are so dangerous.More dangerous to a cyclist than a cyclist is to a pedestrian on a pavement.
How many times and ways do I have to explain that to you.
If you don’t believe me get on a bike and have a ride around you might just might change your mind
Small rodents such as mice, or ferrets. Ducks, geese, chickens and fowl generally Larger mammals such as cats. Larger ruminates such as sheep or goats. Much bigger animals such as Cows, horses and elephants. Toddlers or babies accompanied or unaccompanied. Wheelchair or mobility scooter users. Children under ten on foot. People over 70 on foot. All other pedestrians. Emergency vehicles. People on roller skates or skateboards. People on non electric scooters. People on non electric bicycles. Totters and their ilk pushing handcarts. Buses People on electric scooters. People on electric bikes. Moped riders. Motorcyclists. City cars. Average cars. Vans. Lorries. Tanks. Audis BMW's.
Yep electric scooter and cycle uses have no care for any other use of the road or pavement, i have number of occasion only just got out the way of these things at the last minute on the pavement. The other growing threat to others is these people charging these things at home, a fully charged battery is like a small bomb, so a threat to others nearby, for example flats and terraced houses.
So if e-bikes and scooters are little bombs that makes electric cars fucking nuclear bombs.
It does. And we have seen the consequence on a number of electric buses in this country already.
Adult cyclists are not allowed to use the pavement to cycle on (unless it’s a dual purpose path and that’ll be marked for cyclists)
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?
I never said cyclists should cycle on the pavement I stated I cycle on the road all I said is I can’t blame some for cycling on pavements because roads are so dangerous.More dangerous to a cyclist than a cyclist is to a pedestrian on a pavement.
How many times and ways do I have to explain that to you.
If you don’t believe me get on a bike and have a ride around you might just might change your mind
I ride my bike plenty and really don't find it dangerous as long as you are paying attention. The biggest risk comes from delivery drivers on electric bikes who really don't seem to give a shit at all. Would never consider cycling on the pavement.
So after a nice ride into work this morning at 6am hardly any cars on the road.
I Googled pedestrians injured by cyclists result pedestrians 2022 462 injured pedestrians 2021 437 injured 1death Cyclists From 2010 to 2021 623 to 966 deaths
With a yearly average of 800 deaths.
Think you should be more worried about being stabbed on pavement than cyclists
Cyclists rarely injure pedestrians when cycling on the pavement, they simply force them to jump out of the way, to step aside, to step into the road, or into a bush or the overhanging branches of a tree, or crash into some street furniture, and generally force pedestrians to make way for them or risk an actual injury.
This has been an interesting thread, worthy of some thought.
I've come to the conclusion that it would be safer for a driver to drive a car on the pavement as that way there would be a greatly reduced risk of the driver being injured in collisions with other cars and HGVs, etc. I mean, fuck the other pavement users - right?
This has been an interesting thread, worthy of some thought.
I've come to the conclusion that it would be safer for a driver to drive a car on the pavement as that way there would be a greatly reduced risk of the driver being injured in collisions with other cars and HGVs, etc. I mean, fuck the other pavement users - right?
Seriously 800 dying a year against someone having to move aside.would you seriously make you child ride on a road. I’ve never seen a child riding a e scooter on a road but according to some they should and they should die.
If you kid was going to ride his bike would you say make sure you ride on the road.
How come we’ve got all these old train lines routes where cyclist and walkers use together if it’s so dangerous.
So Dave oh wise one off the pavements and roads what’s your opinion on the mobility scooters. Some off them are quite fast nowadays should they be on road or pavement.
It depends on the class of mobility scooter. Class 2 has a max speed of 4mph and is pavement only. Class 3 can be up to 8mph and can be road or pavement - although if you're on the pavement you shouldn't go faster than 4mph. Anything that can go over 8mph is road only.
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something else I think is wrong that I see now is motorists cyclists and even pedestrians and pedestrians are probably worse is with headphones in how can you hear what’s around you the amount of times I’ve had to stop because a pedestrian is crossing a road oblivious to traffic
It must be Friday. You've got clean pants on.
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?
Leaving out insects.
Small rodents such as mice, or ferrets.
Ducks, geese, chickens and fowl generally
Larger mammals such as cats.
Larger ruminates such as sheep or goats.
Much bigger animals such as Cows, horses and elephants.
Toddlers or babies accompanied or unaccompanied.
Wheelchair or mobility scooter users.
Children under ten on foot.
People over 70 on foot.
All other pedestrians.
Emergency vehicles.
People on roller skates or skateboards.
People on non electric scooters.
People on non electric bicycles.
Totters and their ilk pushing handcarts.
Buses
People on electric scooters.
People on electric bikes.
Moped riders.
Motorcyclists.
City cars.
Average cars.
Vans.
Lorries.
Tanks.
Audis
BMW's.
What have I left out?
Should this order change?
(Only joking Dave)!
result
pedestrians
2022 462 injured pedestrians
2021 437 injured 1death
Cyclists
From 2010 to 2021
623 to 966 deaths
I've come to the conclusion that it would be safer for a driver to drive a car on the pavement as that way there would be a greatly reduced risk of the driver being injured in collisions with other cars and HGVs, etc. I mean, fuck the other pavement users - right?
https://www.gov.uk/mobility-scooters-and-powered-wheelchairs-rules
You're welcome.
Who comes off worse in a collision between an Elephant and a Hamster.
Can't wait to see the results.