These vehicles on pavements including bicycles ought to be barged off those paths by pedestrians rather than pedestrians having to make way. It is irritating in the extreme when bicycle and scooter riders expect you to step aside for them, presumably their thinking is it is no biggie for the pedestrian and they’ll soon be off and away. Like they don’t know what roads are for. They rightly think roads are too dangerous for scooters and bicycles, so they make pavements and pathways too dangerous for pedestrians.
As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about E Bikes. Generally in the UK E Bikes are limited to providing assistance only. This means that the rider needs to pedal the bike otherwise it doesn't move. You can cycle an E Bike without any assistance or you can add assistance normally in stages where the motor contributes say 20%, 40%, 60% or 80% of the work depending on which setting you have selected. Normally when riding on a flat level surface you might chose zero contribution from the motor. On an incline you might switch to 20% or 40% depending on the gradient. If you're daft enough to try and cycle up Shooters Hill then you might switch to 80% assistance but in all of these cases, if you stop pedalling then the bike stops. I have seen illegal E bikes on a couple of occasions which are fitted with a twist grip and these will move without pedalling but these are very scarce (thankfully) in the UK. Most E Bikes are used by older people who want to cycle for leisure but with the benefit of undertaking some exercise and also note that you won't see much lycra clothing on E Bike riders, they're a different breed.
Interesting reading this post 3 years on, as the twist and go e-bikes are now everywhere. Every time I see a video of a phone thief in Central London they're on a powerful twist grip e-bike.
As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about E Bikes. Generally in the UK E Bikes are limited to providing assistance only. This means that the rider needs to pedal the bike otherwise it doesn't move. You can cycle an E Bike without any assistance or you can add assistance normally in stages where the motor contributes say 20%, 40%, 60% or 80% of the work depending on which setting you have selected. Normally when riding on a flat level surface you might chose zero contribution from the motor. On an incline you might switch to 20% or 40% depending on the gradient. If you're daft enough to try and cycle up Shooters Hill then you might switch to 80% assistance but in all of these cases, if you stop pedalling then the bike stops. I have seen illegal E bikes on a couple of occasions which are fitted with a twist grip and these will move without pedalling but these are very scarce (thankfully) in the UK. Most E Bikes are used by older people who want to cycle for leisure but with the benefit of undertaking some exercise and also note that you won't see much lycra clothing on E Bike riders, they're a different breed.
Interesting reading this post 3 years on, as the twist and go e-bikes are now everywhere. Every time I see a video of a phone thief in Central London they're on a powerful twist grip e-bike.
Eltham high street is plagued with the phone snatchers at the moment so is Charlton shopping centre.
As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about E Bikes. Generally in the UK E Bikes are limited to providing assistance only. This means that the rider needs to pedal the bike otherwise it doesn't move. You can cycle an E Bike without any assistance or you can add assistance normally in stages where the motor contributes say 20%, 40%, 60% or 80% of the work depending on which setting you have selected. Normally when riding on a flat level surface you might chose zero contribution from the motor. On an incline you might switch to 20% or 40% depending on the gradient. If you're daft enough to try and cycle up Shooters Hill then you might switch to 80% assistance but in all of these cases, if you stop pedalling then the bike stops. I have seen illegal E bikes on a couple of occasions which are fitted with a twist grip and these will move without pedalling but these are very scarce (thankfully) in the UK. Most E Bikes are used by older people who want to cycle for leisure but with the benefit of undertaking some exercise and also note that you won't see much lycra clothing on E Bike riders, they're a different breed.
Interesting reading this post 3 years on, as the twist and go e-bikes are now everywhere. Every time I see a video of a phone thief in Central London they're on a powerful twist grip e-bike.
Eltham high street is plagued with the phone snatchers at the moment so is Charlton shopping centre.
Jesus. I was wondering how long it would take to start to shift to the outskirts. I see them every day in Central London in broad daylight robbing tourists but didn't really expect it to start moving out to these sort of areas.
My cousin’s 16 year old grandson was killed when using one, in New York, a few years back. The driver who hit him had been drinking. Whenever I see someone on them, I think of CJ. Dangerous things at best.
Having been a motorcyclist for fourteen years in the past, when I went to get trained down on Greenwich peninsular, one part of the course was how badly bare skin can be damaged even in a spill of ten miles per hour. I am always seeing L plated motorcyclists, usually food delivery drivers, and scooter riders zooming around with bare arms and legs, and also with scooters no helmets. Maybe they think they will never come off their vehicles.
When I first went to Beijing all the bicycles had little number plates.
This morning when walking along Lee High Road I saw three cyclists going through a red light, and had to jump out of the way of a cyclist on the pavement near the Pentecostal Church near the old Police Station yet they were riding parallel to a designated cycle lane.
Sorry for loss of your cousin but.The e bike is dangerous when he got killed by a drunk driver in a car. That don’t make sense to me. The reason they go on the pavements is because it’s safer I’m sure more cyclists are killed on the roads than pedestrians killed by cyclists on the pavements. There is some shocking drivers on the roads nowadays I know there is some bad cyclists to but what you got to remember is if a cyclist or biker is hit by a car the odds are against them coming out without serious injury.
I’m sure motorcyclists would be safer from cars on the pavement as well , doesn’t matter!
Any adult cyclist or scooter rider that goes on the pavement should be kicked in front of a bus, the pavement is for pedestrians.
You can’t just decide you feel safer so fuck the pedestrians.
from my experience it’s nowt to do with safety just being a selfish impatient cock trying to wiz through the city
what an awful thing to say. Brainless keyboard warrior!
Yep electric scooter and cycle uses have no care for any other use of the road or pavement, i have number of occasion only just got out the way of these things at the last minute on the pavement. The other growing threat to others is these people charging these things at home, a fully charged battery is like a small bomb, so a threat to others nearby, for example flats and terraced houses.
So Dave oh wise one off the pavements and roads what’s your opinion on the mobility scooters. Some off them are quite fast nowadays should they be on road or pavement.
I would expect people in need of mobility assistance to use the pavement however I know some folk like to ride in the side of the road in quieter areas
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It is irritating in the extreme when bicycle and scooter riders expect you to step aside for them, presumably their thinking is it is no biggie for the pedestrian and they’ll soon be off and away.
Like they don’t know what roads are for. They rightly think roads are too dangerous for scooters and bicycles, so they make pavements and pathways too dangerous for pedestrians.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/stephen-dolan-sentenced-yonkers-drunk-driver-killed-cj-hackett/
I am always seeing L plated motorcyclists, usually food delivery drivers, and scooter riders zooming around with bare arms and legs, and also with scooters no helmets.
Maybe they think they will never come off their vehicles.
This morning when walking along Lee High Road I saw three cyclists going through a red light, and had to jump out of the way of a cyclist on the pavement near the Pentecostal Church near the old Police Station yet they were riding parallel to a designated cycle lane.
I'm enjoying it.
Well, when not in his van with Jess.
The other growing threat to others is these people charging these things at home, a fully charged battery is like a small bomb, so a threat to others nearby, for example flats and terraced houses.
what’s your point?