England Cricket 2021 (excluding Ashes)
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A tale of two keepers. Karthik missed stumping FDP when he was on just 2 and Dhoni has just dropped Iyer before he has scored0
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I reckon we might be watching Dhoni's final game as a pro cricketer, especially if CSK wins1
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Well wouldn't you Adam & Eve it! Tom Harrison is one of the guests of honour at the final of the IPL. No doubt a reward for attending the Indian coaches' book signing when members of their back room staff contracted Covid0
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KKR lost by 27 runs. Dhoni in his 300th T20 match as captain wins the IPL with CSK
Morgan was out for 4 off 8 and finished with a total of 133 runs from 16 innings at an average of 11.08 at a strike rate of 95.68. His fielding has been poor too and had he not been captain he would have been dropped a long time ago. Let's hope he doesn't carry that form into the WC but with a gap of just a week to our first match there really isn't much time for him to clear his head.
Moeen Ali scored 357 runs from 15 innings (which demonstrates how much Dhoni and CSK rate him) by comparison at an average of 25.50 and strike rate of 137.30. The first Englishman to win the IPL too.1 -
Moeen will have a nice couple of years mixing white ball England cricket and franchise cricketAddick Addict said:KKR lost by 27 runs. Dhoni in his 300th T20 match as captain wins the IPL with CSK
Morgan was out for 4 off 8 and finished with a total of 133 runs from 16 innings at an average of 11.08 at a strike rate of 95.68. His fielding has been poor too and had he not been captain he would have been dropped a long time ago. Let's hope he doesn't carry that form into the WC but with a gap of just a week to our first match there really isn't much time for him to clear his head.
Moeen Ali scored 357 runs from 15 innings (which demonstrates how much Dhoni and CSK rate him) by comparison at an average of 25.50 and strike rate of 137.30. The first Englishman to win the IPL too.
I've not been paying much attention to the IPL, but noticed Moeen didn't bowl today, has he bowled much in the tournament?0 -
I thought T20 was meant to be a young man's sport, but looking at the winning side you have Dhoni (40), Bravo (38) and Du Plessis (37)!0
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He bowled all four overs in the qualifier! Dhoni uses him when he sees favourable match-ups, such as lots of left-handerskillerandflash said:
Moeen will have a nice couple of years mixing white ball England cricket and franchise cricketAddick Addict said:KKR lost by 27 runs. Dhoni in his 300th T20 match as captain wins the IPL with CSK
Morgan was out for 4 off 8 and finished with a total of 133 runs from 16 innings at an average of 11.08 at a strike rate of 95.68. His fielding has been poor too and had he not been captain he would have been dropped a long time ago. Let's hope he doesn't carry that form into the WC but with a gap of just a week to our first match there really isn't much time for him to clear his head.
Moeen Ali scored 357 runs from 15 innings (which demonstrates how much Dhoni and CSK rate him) by comparison at an average of 25.50 and strike rate of 137.30. The first Englishman to win the IPL too.
I've not been paying much attention to the IPL, but noticed Moeen didn't bowl today, has he bowled much in the tournament?2 -
Going to start a WC T20 thread as the first matches are on Sunday1
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Blimey where’s that come from !Addick Addict said:Going to start a WC T20 thread as the first matches are on Sunday1 -
Here we go again. More rhetoric from the England camp with a view to them dictating the terms under which they are prepared to tour. This time Stuart Broad is the chosen messenger:
Stuart Broad says it will be no surprise if England players return home early from the Ashes tour this winter - despite a commitment from the full squad to travel next month.
The ECB selected a 17-man party after giving conditional approval to Cricket Australia for the 11-week tour, on the basis that certain aspects in regard to living conditions and quarantine arrangements for players and their families are met.
However, there is an added potential complication of Covid rules and regulations being altered by individual states after the players have arrived in the country.
And ahead of the five-match series, which begins at the Gabba on December 8, the 35-year-old Broad said: 'It wouldn't surprise me at all if players pull out while we are there.
'We have seen that on Ashes tours before and for me it has always been more likely that players will pull out if things change in Australia while we are there rather than before we go.'
Marcus Trescothick and Jonathan Trott both quit while on away Ashes trips due to mental health issues and the ECB are mindful of the effects of being asked to spend 14 days quarantining and return to bubble life will have on current players.
Seb says that they are being treated exceptionally well in quarantine - three lovely meals a day and half a dozen calls a day too from various interested parties checking on their mental health including a daily one from the Police. It goes like this:
Police officer: "g'day mate, you OK?"
Seb: "yes thank you"
Police officer: "great, speak to you tomorrow"
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CorrectedAddick Addict said:Seb says that they are being treated exceptionally well in quarantine - three lovely meals a day and half a dozen calls a day too from various interested parties checking on their mental health including a daily one from the Police. It goes like this:
Police officer: "g'day you pommie bastard"
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I thought this at the time that the tour was 'announced' as going ahead, this story has got plenty of legs in it, as the Covid situation here in Australia is so complex, and rules/regulations/responses are so different in each state.Addick Addict said:Here we go again. More rhetoric from the England camp with a view to them dictating the terms under which they are prepared to tour. This time Stuart Broad is the chosen messenger:Stuart Broad says it will be no surprise if England players return home early from the Ashes tour this winter - despite a commitment from the full squad to travel next month.
The ECB selected a 17-man party after giving conditional approval to Cricket Australia for the 11-week tour, on the basis that certain aspects in regard to living conditions and quarantine arrangements for players and their families are met.
However, there is an added potential complication of Covid rules and regulations being altered by individual states after the players have arrived in the country.
And ahead of the five-match series, which begins at the Gabba on December 8, the 35-year-old Broad said: 'It wouldn't surprise me at all if players pull out while we are there.
'We have seen that on Ashes tours before and for me it has always been more likely that players will pull out if things change in Australia while we are there rather than before we go.'
Marcus Trescothick and Jonathan Trott both quit while on away Ashes trips due to mental health issues and the ECB are mindful of the effects of being asked to spend 14 days quarantining and return to bubble life will have on current players.
Seb says that they are being treated exceptionally well in quarantine - three lovely meals a day and half a dozen calls a day too from various interested parties checking on their mental health including a daily one from the Police. It goes like this:
Police officer: "g'day mate, you OK?"
Seb: "yes thank you"
Police officer: "great, speak to you tomorrow"
I would be astonished if all five tests go off without incident or postponements, which from an English perspective wont be a bad thing, as our batting will never withstand their bowling attack, even with Stokes potentially back in the ranks.0 -
I don't disagree with you but money talks. The Australian Government and States I'm sure will bend over backwards and make some exceptions for England to ensure that they don't lose millions. My understanding is that the Australian Prime Minister has already announced that fully vaccinated residents will be able to leave Australia from November and return without the need to quarantine. I suspect that Broad has either off his own back or at the request of the ECB merely sent another shot across the bows by subtlety making it clear that they want to be afforded the same conditions.brownbear said:
I thought this at the time that the tour was 'announced' as going ahead, this story has got plenty of legs in it, as the Covid situation here in Australia is so complex, and rules/regulations/responses are so different in each state.Addick Addict said:Here we go again. More rhetoric from the England camp with a view to them dictating the terms under which they are prepared to tour. This time Stuart Broad is the chosen messenger:Stuart Broad says it will be no surprise if England players return home early from the Ashes tour this winter - despite a commitment from the full squad to travel next month.
The ECB selected a 17-man party after giving conditional approval to Cricket Australia for the 11-week tour, on the basis that certain aspects in regard to living conditions and quarantine arrangements for players and their families are met.
However, there is an added potential complication of Covid rules and regulations being altered by individual states after the players have arrived in the country.
And ahead of the five-match series, which begins at the Gabba on December 8, the 35-year-old Broad said: 'It wouldn't surprise me at all if players pull out while we are there.
'We have seen that on Ashes tours before and for me it has always been more likely that players will pull out if things change in Australia while we are there rather than before we go.'
Marcus Trescothick and Jonathan Trott both quit while on away Ashes trips due to mental health issues and the ECB are mindful of the effects of being asked to spend 14 days quarantining and return to bubble life will have on current players.
Seb says that they are being treated exceptionally well in quarantine - three lovely meals a day and half a dozen calls a day too from various interested parties checking on their mental health including a daily one from the Police. It goes like this:
Police officer: "g'day mate, you OK?"
Seb: "yes thank you"
Police officer: "great, speak to you tomorrow"
I would be astonished if all five tests go off without incident or postponements, which from an English perspective wont be a bad thing, as our batting will never withstand their bowling attack, even with Stokes potentially back in the ranks.
And you're right. It's going to be an uphill challenge for us anyway.0 -
Mmmm yes but you have to understand that the political system here is completely different to how it is the UK. The State Premieres here have huge powers to open/shut borders, and all of them of course have elections to think about, which has a massive impact on their decision making. The states that are going to be most tricky to negotiate are QLD, WA and VIC, which are all Labour states, and have been at loggerheads with Scomo since all this started, trust me this one is not going to run smoothly!
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They’ll deliberately make the england players quarantine repeatedly for as long as possible. The Aussies absolutely love making life as miserable as possible for an England team - it’s why it’s such a tough place for us to tour and why it’s such an achievement when we do win down under.0
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I know it’s for 2022 but the West Indies tour dates are announced/confirmed.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/2295393/schedule-confirmed-for-england-mens-tour-of-the-caribbean
Currently changing flights and hotel as we’d booked months ago on a hunch first test would be Barbados. Thankfully the change isn’t costing us the same as a new flight for the similar dates and with the additional
cost it’s still good value. Hopefully the hotel will be too!3 -
If you are a cricket fan and you haven't seen cricket in the Caribbean I'd urge you to go4
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Some mates & I are planning on going to the first 2 tests for about 8 days on each island. Absolutely cannot wait!2
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Seb has another six days of quarantine. He has had an exercise bike and dumb bells delivered to his room (they do the rounds within the hotel and are sanitised obviously between stays) and says that the food is superb.
His group regularly have zoom calls. They've already had them with the Head of the Programme, Mark Harrity (played a season here for Worcs I believe) and Mark Cosgrove (ex Glamorgan and Leics), the batting coach, who is more renowned for being a bit of a unit. Today's call was with Darren Lehmann himself. Seb says he's a very down to earth guy and whilst he is more a figurehead for the programme he will be around for some weeks when he's not involved with the Heat in Brisbane.
Lehmann said that when Joe Root went to the DLCA he didn't stand out as anything special but worked very hard at his game. He says that the Aussie bowlers have plans for him, as they do for all batsmen and in Root's case it is to bowl full to him because against pace he doesn't get as far forward, on the front foot, as he should on Aussie pitches that bounce that much more (he also pointed out that Root has never scored a Test hundred there). Lehmann also said that, again because of the bounce, their batsmen don't tend to sweep as often as they might do abroad and that Lyon tends to bowl with a lot of over spin to generate the extra bounce especially on wickets that aren't turning.
For the Adelaide Test some of the DLCA group will be selected as net bowlers for both the England and Australian squads. The rest will get to watch them train and also to mix and talk with the England players. The boys are also proposing to go the Test which is a day/nighter and Seb seems to think that tickets are between £25 and £40 which, if that is the case, are incredibly cheap by comparison to home. Apparently there is an Adelaide group of the Barmy Army which has something like 600 members in it so hopefully the DLCA boys won't be on their own!6 -
Opener Dom Sibley has withdrawn from the England Lions squad for the tour of Australia this winter.
Last week the 26-year-old was named in the 14-strong squad, which will shadow the main England Ashes party.
But England say "after much thought and consideration" Warwickshire's Sibley has decided to work on his batting at home this winter in a bid to regain a place in the Test team.
Yorkshire batter Harry Brook has been added to the Lions squad.
There are two ways of looking at this. Has Sibley thrown his toys out of the pram because he doesn't have a central contract and knows that the chances of him actually being called up into the main squad are minimal? Or is he genuinely just going back to hitting balls back at home?
The reality is that, out of sight out of mind, makes him even less likely to return to Test cricket. It is also never the same hitting balls delivered from a bowling machine as opposed to being in the middle against proper bowling. That said. I do know that the likes of Anderson, Mahmood and Crawley were training at Loughborough this week so it's possible that Sibley is with them.
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Sibley has pulled out of the England Lions squad to work on his batting at home...0 -
i guess you could say, why follow australia's stringent quarantine rules when you're probably not going to get much of a game and have spent a lot of the last 18 months playing in bubbles.Addick Addict said:Opener Dom Sibley has withdrawn from the England Lions squad for the tour of Australia this winter.
Last week the 26-year-old was named in the 14-strong squad, which will shadow the main England Ashes party.
But England say "after much thought and consideration" Warwickshire's Sibley has decided to work on his batting at home this winter in a bid to regain a place in the Test team.
Yorkshire batter Harry Brook has been added to the Lions squad.
There are two ways of looking at this. Has Sibley thrown his toys out of the pram because he doesn't have a central contract and knows that the chances of him actually being called up into the main squad are minimal? Or is he genuinely just going back to hitting balls back at home?
The reality is that, out of sight out of mind, makes him even less likely to return to Test cricket. It is also never the same hitting balls delivered from a bowling machine as opposed to being in the middle against proper bowling. That said. I do know that the likes of Anderson, Mahmood and Crawley were training at Loughborough this week so it's possible that Sibley is with them.
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That's true but those rules are being relaxed and as I say once you take yourself out of the system it makes it that much harder to get back in. I think the reality is that Sibley will probably never play again for England not just because of his technique but because his scoring options are so limited.kentaddick said:
i guess you could say, why follow australia's stringent quarantine rules when you're probably not going to get much of a game and have spent a lot of the last 18 months playing in bubbles.Addick Addict said:Opener Dom Sibley has withdrawn from the England Lions squad for the tour of Australia this winter.
Last week the 26-year-old was named in the 14-strong squad, which will shadow the main England Ashes party.
But England say "after much thought and consideration" Warwickshire's Sibley has decided to work on his batting at home this winter in a bid to regain a place in the Test team.
Yorkshire batter Harry Brook has been added to the Lions squad.
There are two ways of looking at this. Has Sibley thrown his toys out of the pram because he doesn't have a central contract and knows that the chances of him actually being called up into the main squad are minimal? Or is he genuinely just going back to hitting balls back at home?
The reality is that, out of sight out of mind, makes him even less likely to return to Test cricket. It is also never the same hitting balls delivered from a bowling machine as opposed to being in the middle against proper bowling. That said. I do know that the likes of Anderson, Mahmood and Crawley were training at Loughborough this week so it's possible that Sibley is with them.
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Find it difficult to disagree with you. Especially with the re-emergence of hameed and the possibility of crawley coming back into form.Addick Addict said:
That's true but those rules are being relaxed and as I say once you take yourself out of the system it makes it that much harder to get back in. I think the reality is that Sibley will probably never play again for England not just because of his technique but because his scoring options are so limited.kentaddick said:
i guess you could say, why follow australia's stringent quarantine rules when you're probably not going to get much of a game and have spent a lot of the last 18 months playing in bubbles.Addick Addict said:Opener Dom Sibley has withdrawn from the England Lions squad for the tour of Australia this winter.
Last week the 26-year-old was named in the 14-strong squad, which will shadow the main England Ashes party.
But England say "after much thought and consideration" Warwickshire's Sibley has decided to work on his batting at home this winter in a bid to regain a place in the Test team.
Yorkshire batter Harry Brook has been added to the Lions squad.
There are two ways of looking at this. Has Sibley thrown his toys out of the pram because he doesn't have a central contract and knows that the chances of him actually being called up into the main squad are minimal? Or is he genuinely just going back to hitting balls back at home?
The reality is that, out of sight out of mind, makes him even less likely to return to Test cricket. It is also never the same hitting balls delivered from a bowling machine as opposed to being in the middle against proper bowling. That said. I do know that the likes of Anderson, Mahmood and Crawley were training at Loughborough this week so it's possible that Sibley is with them.
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From the ECB:
Next summer's home schedule for England Men's Internationals has been boosted with the addition of the rearranged fifth LV= Insurance Test Match against India. Read below for key date and venue changes across Test, ODI and IT20 Series.
The fifth match of the LV= Insurance Test Series between England Men and India Men has been rescheduled and will now take place from July 1 2022 at Edgbaston, following an agreement between the ECB and BCCI. With India currently leading 2-1, the series is set for the conclusion it deserves.
Due to the complexities in the schedule, the fixture cannot be staged at Emirates Old Trafford owing to clashes with pre-planned events at the venue, which will leave insufficient time to prepare a Test pitch. However, Emirates Old Trafford will host Test cricket next summer, with the second LV= Insurance Test against South Africa, starting on August 25, 2022, moving to Manchester from Edgbaston.
Whiteball Series Update
India will also return to Emirates Old Trafford next year in a Royal London International on 17 July, while Edgbaston is now set to host India on July 9 in a Vitality IT20. Given the rescheduling of the fifth Test, the Vitality IT20 Series and Royal London Series between England and India will now start six days later than originally planned, with date changes for the IT20s scheduled at the Ageas Bowl and Trent Bridge.
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This is totally disgraceful by ECB. Having left me high and dry in Manchester this year the;ve now switched the Edgbaston ticket dates. My ticket has been changed to a date I can't make. Luckily my hotel booking is cancellable but I know people who have booked non-cancellable. ECB not fit for pupose.3
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