Now and over the last 15 years the economy is booming really, and there is a very large influx in population what there are meant to be 250,000 plus of the French in London alone. The population is meant to top 10 million+ again over the next few years, I live in Greenwich it is a booming place, with lots of different cultures which make it an exciting place to live.
yes booming thats why pals are moving out with young kids because the schools are way up in the list of being crap and greenwich has 43% of the vote for being the dirtiest borough.. BOOM BOOM BOOMING!
anyway i dont know why im slagging off the place i love living in charlton and had a lovely evening in the Trafalgar last night.
Regarding sco's comments on Thatcher and mortgages. The unions certainly had too much power in the 70's, and they abused it. Since then the bosses have had carte blanch to do pretty much what they like to the workers, with no comeback, and they too have abused that power. That abuse of power continues, and that is why I think Thatchers' legacy is still relevant to discussions of this kind.
Curb it I have children I know I can't stay in Greenwich beyond the age of 11 for the oldest. Greenwich is a great place to live despite or should that be inspite of having one of London's worst Local Authorities, Greenwich Council are a bad joke end of.
Now and over the last 15 years the economy is booming really, and there is a very large influx in population what there are meant to be 250,000 plus of the French in London alone. The population is meant to top 10 million+ again over the next few years, I live in Greenwich it is a booming place, with lots of different cultures which make it an exciting place to live.
yes booming thats why pals are moving out with young kids because the schools are way up in the list of being crap and greenwich has 43% of the vote for being the dirtiest borough.. BOOM BOOM BOOMING!
anyway i dont know why im slagging off the place i love living in charlton and had a lovely evening in the Trafalgar last night.
But that is in part due to the lack of decent council housing which goes back, as someone said, to the decision to sell off council houses (good) but not allow the councils to re-invest the money (very, very bad).
And London in the seventies was grey, grim and it shut at 11.00. There was nothing like the variety of affordable food, nightlife or shopping. And it could be a bit scary on the streets as well. London has improved so much in recent years for all its many faults and problems.
Not a fan of Ken but at least Ken is a fan of London.
Read this earlier on Guido Fawkes it could be closer than I first thought:
Why Boris Will Win
Turnout was 36.95% in the 2004 Mayoral elections. Ken actually got the support of only 10% of the potential electorate. The Tories are more popular now than before and they have in Boris a likeable candidate. Is that alone enough for him to win? Maybe.
Party Name 1st choice Votes 1st choice % 2nd choice Votes 2nd choice % Labour Party Livingstone, Ken 685,541 35.70% 250,517 13.04% Conservative Party Norris, Steve 542,423 28.24% 222,559 11.59% Liberal Democrats Hughes, Simon 284,645 14.82% 465,704 24.25%
He is extremely popular with the Conservative grassroots and if Boris just succeeds in motivating them to go out and vote, he will win. On the basis of the last election's results Boris needs to get an extra 1 in 5 Tory sympathisers in London to go to the polling station. This is without the extra oomph from the Conservatives nationally polling better than in 2004. Boris inspires a great deal of enthusiasm, he will without doubt energise that base. He also has first-name brand recognition. If Labour tacticians think they can fight him as a posh buffoon they are making a mistake just like the Tories made in thinking they could portray Gordon as a left-winger. Boris will never appeal to a certain type of left-winger, but he doesn't have to, he just has to get the stay-at-home Tories down to the polling station.
People seem to forget that Boris got to Eton on a scholarship, not because he was a toff, the buffoon tag can be shaken off easily.
[cite]Posted By: pickwick[/cite]Read this earlier on Guido Fawkes it could be closer than I first thought:
Why Boris Will Win
Turnout was 36.95% in the 2004 Mayoral elections. Ken actually got the support of only 10% of the potential electorate. The Tories are more popular now than before and they have in Boris a likeable candidate. Is that alone enough for him to win? Maybe.
Party Name 1st choice
Votes 1st choice
% 2nd choice
Votes 2nd choice
%
Labour Party Livingstone, Ken 685,541 35.70% 250,517 13.04%
Conservative Party Norris, Steve 542,423 28.24% 222,559 11.59%
Liberal Democrats Hughes, Simon 284,645 14.82% 465,704 24.25%
He is extremely popular with the Conservative grassroots and if Boris just succeeds in motivating them to go out and vote, he will win. On the basis of the last election's results Boris needs to get an extra 1 in 5 Tory sympathisers in London to go to the polling station. This is without the extra oomph from the Conservatives nationally polling better than in 2004. Boris inspires a great deal of enthusiasm, he will without doubt energise that base. He also has first-name brand recognition. If Labour tacticians think they can fight him as a posh buffoon they are making a mistake just like the Tories made in thinking they could portray Gordon as a left-winger. Boris will never appeal to a certain type of left-winger, but he doesn't have to, he just has to get the stay-at-home Tories down to the polling station.
People seem to forget that Boris got to Eton on a scholarship, not because he was a toff, the buffoon tag can be shaken off easily.
Firstly good post pickwick - However Boris is still considered a toff in my opinion - Yes he won a scholarship, but that was because he was a very good pupil. The previous school he went to was a private school in Brussels and his early ancestry is from the aristocracy of the Ottoman empire.
Although I don't think Boris would be a great statesman for London, I think he has a chance of winning the election if/when he stands.
Livingstone will crush Johnson, no problems whatsoever. I shall probably put some cash on it.
Johnson has already been outed in the press TWICE as cheating on his missus so he's not exactly the most discreet bloke in the world, is he? I am not saying that fidelity is the number one quality for serving as mayor but discretion certainly is and to be caught with your pants down twice smacks of recklessness.
Not only that, he's also had a dumb crack at Scousers (addicted to grief), Portsmouth (people in tracksuits) and many other things as well, and that's while serving as a shadow minister with no press coverage, in the heat of a mayoral campaign then who knows what madness he will come out with and who he will manage to put offside?
People may not like Livingstone but they can't deny that he has become a real heavyweight on the political scene (not many people see off Prime Minister's in the way he got one over on Blair) and is in a different league to an amateur like Johnson who is amusing but is no policy heavyweight.
Livingstone is a very smart politician and he will be laughing his nuts off that the Tories have put Johnson in against him because he knows that although he might struggle against someone who can really take him on with a policy argument a personality politician like Johnson can be easily defeated.
Livingstone is a very smart politician and he will be laughing his nuts off that the Tories have put Johnson in against him because he knows that although he might struggle against someone who can really take him on with a policy argument a personality politician like Johnson can be easily defeated.
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I agree, Livingstone is too canny to push the personality angle, his strength is that he has a great deal of recognition from having been a Labour councillor, leader of the GLC, a Labour MP and importantly having campaigned on London issues for many years and hasn't done a bad job. Johnson will have the Standard supporting him but Livingstone has won twice without its support, and even with its outright opposition so nothing to fear there.
Johnson is going to have to come up with not just some new policy ideas but answer in detail what he's done for London in the past, and what campaigns he's gotten involved etc, as I mention above he missed Commons votes on the Crossrail legislation and his apparent lack of interest in that will hurt him if it's played properly. For him to win he has to oppose the congestion charge in some way, as that is KL's baby. Look at it like this say he suggests abolishing the CC, the consequence is that more people will drive into Central London, which will snarl up the traffic, to combat that he'll have to make the tube/bus/train companies reduce their fares, which means they'll need to be subsidised, and where will the money come from for that?
That's right, as soon as Johnson says "I'm going to abolish the CC" Livingstone will be able to say, "OK then, so how are YOU going to address the problem of traffic congestion?"
What is Johnson going to be able to say to that? More buses/tubes? That means more capex and more cost for ratepayers, not exactly a classic Tory position.
The irony of the CC is that its really a quintessentially Tory form of taxation, in that like the Poll Tax in the early 90's, it takes no consideration of your ability to pay because a van driver earning 25,000 pays the same CC as the merchant banker on 2.5 million, that's one of the reasons the Tories will find it hard to alter it substantially.
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yes booming thats why pals are moving out with young kids because the schools are way up in the list of being crap and greenwich has 43% of the vote for being the dirtiest borough.. BOOM BOOM BOOMING!
anyway i dont know why im slagging off the place i love living in charlton and had a lovely evening in the Trafalgar last night.
But that is in part due to the lack of decent council housing which goes back, as someone said, to the decision to sell off council houses (good) but not allow the councils to re-invest the money (very, very bad).
And London in the seventies was grey, grim and it shut at 11.00. There was nothing like the variety of affordable food, nightlife or shopping. And it could be a bit scary on the streets as well. London has improved so much in recent years for all its many faults and problems.
Not a fan of Ken but at least Ken is a fan of London.
Why Boris Will Win
Turnout was 36.95% in the 2004 Mayoral elections. Ken actually got the support of only 10% of the potential electorate. The Tories are more popular now than before and they have in Boris a likeable candidate. Is that alone enough for him to win? Maybe.
Party Name 1st choice
Votes 1st choice
% 2nd choice
Votes 2nd choice
%
Labour Party Livingstone, Ken 685,541 35.70% 250,517 13.04%
Conservative Party Norris, Steve 542,423 28.24% 222,559 11.59%
Liberal Democrats Hughes, Simon 284,645 14.82% 465,704 24.25%
He is extremely popular with the Conservative grassroots and if Boris just succeeds in motivating them to go out and vote, he will win. On the basis of the last election's results Boris needs to get an extra 1 in 5 Tory sympathisers in London to go to the polling station. This is without the extra oomph from the Conservatives nationally polling better than in 2004. Boris inspires a great deal of enthusiasm, he will without doubt energise that base. He also has first-name brand recognition. If Labour tacticians think they can fight him as a posh buffoon they are making a mistake just like the Tories made in thinking they could portray Gordon as a left-winger. Boris will never appeal to a certain type of left-winger, but he doesn't have to, he just has to get the stay-at-home Tories down to the polling station.
People seem to forget that Boris got to Eton on a scholarship, not because he was a toff, the buffoon tag can be shaken off easily.
Firstly good post pickwick - However Boris is still considered a toff in my opinion - Yes he won a scholarship, but that was because he was a very good pupil. The previous school he went to was a private school in Brussels and his early ancestry is from the aristocracy of the Ottoman empire.
Although I don't think Boris would be a great statesman for London, I think he has a chance of winning the election if/when he stands.
Johnson has already been outed in the press TWICE as cheating on his missus so he's not exactly the most discreet bloke in the world, is he? I am not saying that fidelity is the number one quality for serving as mayor but discretion certainly is and to be caught with your pants down twice smacks of recklessness.
Not only that, he's also had a dumb crack at Scousers (addicted to grief), Portsmouth (people in tracksuits) and many other things as well, and that's while serving as a shadow minister with no press coverage, in the heat of a mayoral campaign then who knows what madness he will come out with and who he will manage to put offside?
People may not like Livingstone but they can't deny that he has become a real heavyweight on the political scene (not many people see off Prime Minister's in the way he got one over on Blair) and is in a different league to an amateur like Johnson who is amusing but is no policy heavyweight.
Livingstone is a very smart politician and he will be laughing his nuts off that the Tories have put Johnson in against him because he knows that although he might struggle against someone who can really take him on with a policy argument a personality politician like Johnson can be easily defeated.
....................
I agree, Livingstone is too canny to push the personality angle, his strength is that he has a great deal of recognition from having been a Labour councillor, leader of the GLC, a Labour MP and importantly having campaigned on London issues for many years and hasn't done a bad job. Johnson will have the Standard supporting him but Livingstone has won twice without its support, and even with its outright opposition so nothing to fear there.
Johnson is going to have to come up with not just some new policy ideas but answer in detail what he's done for London in the past, and what campaigns he's gotten involved etc, as I mention above he missed Commons votes on the Crossrail legislation and his apparent lack of interest in that will hurt him if it's played properly. For him to win he has to oppose the congestion charge in some way, as that is KL's baby. Look at it like this say he suggests abolishing the CC, the consequence is that more people will drive into Central London, which will snarl up the traffic, to combat that he'll have to make the tube/bus/train companies reduce their fares, which means they'll need to be subsidised, and where will the money come from for that?
What is Johnson going to be able to say to that? More buses/tubes? That means more capex and more cost for ratepayers, not exactly a classic Tory position.
The irony of the CC is that its really a quintessentially Tory form of taxation, in that like the Poll Tax in the early 90's, it takes no consideration of your ability to pay because a van driver earning 25,000 pays the same CC as the merchant banker on 2.5 million, that's one of the reasons the Tories will find it hard to alter it substantially.