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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.1 -
Possibly, guess that depends on him. Based on last season, he's not in a position to go to a decent League 1 club and start demanding he starts. No disrespect to the smaller clubs, but the clubs who would definitely be bringing him in to start won't be able to afford him. So he can sit in Peterborough's reserves or join a club like us and fight to get a spot. Lots of football to be played and even if he starts on the bench he'll get the chance to grab a spot.ButtleJR said:
Very true. Not many options. Just think he'd want to be guaranteed a starting position too after last season.cafcfan1990 said:
We need another striker though regardless. I'm not 100% convinced by Eisa, but then who is there who wouldn't carry the same risk?ButtleJR said:Eisa was really poor in the games I saw him play last season, but wasn't really given a fair chance to be fair. People I know who support them don't rate him at all. Imo Washington is a far better option, happy to be proven wrong though.
Peterborough are in the same position. If they are pricing clubs out of a move that will change at some point. No way will they want him sitting in the reserves on a wage when clubs are interested. No doubt the tweets from Darragh are a plea for clubs to come back in, notice he's mentioned multiple clubs interest.1 -
There paying what hes worth....He simply isnt very good.ButtleJR said:FFS look who he's gone and replied to... I'd assume the add ons were for promotion and 20 goals?
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MacAnthony really irritates me. The Southall scenerio does not help. The "I'm such an open Chairman" act is more than tiresome.
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Yes the EFL have promoted Ipswich & Wigan automatically and the rest are competing for a play off place.Mendonca In Asdas said:I’m not in panic mode, but have the top 2 places already gone too Ipswich and Wigan, given their transfer dealings so far?10 -
I suspect it already is. Almost certainly was last season as well.Scoham said:
Shouldn’t we judge how much we and other clubs have invested once the window has closed? A lot can happen between now and the end of August.J BLOCK said:Stuck £10 on Wigan to win the league outright at 18/1.
Everyone saying "Money doesn't guarantee success" you're correct, but it gives you a much much higher chance than a team that isn't investing at scale.
I don’t expect us to be one of the top 2 spenders but I expect our wage bill will be in the top 6.2 -
Are we gonna go 4-2-3-1? I could see that working out quite well as an option, but that puts a few of our better players in odd positions.Braziliance said:Eisa playing behind Stockley just based on watching his montages could work very well or even as a partnership up top, definitely a player I wouldn't turn my nose up at
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Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.0 -
So why does it feel we are more in the dark than ever before on transfers etc?Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.2 -
You don't have to wait for the document to become visible on CH websiteTelMc32 said:
Accounts have now been filed at Companies House. Notice states that they are being processed and will be available in 10 days.TelMc32 said:
Was about to say the same. The "front page" will automatically default when the date passed 30 June, but we're seeing a lot of accounts at the moment which have taken more than a couple of weeks to be loaded after submission after so many companies took advantage of the extension provided by the Government.Covered_End_Lad said:
In fairness companies house if often a bit behind, they probably submitted the accounts before they became overdue but the website hasn’t yet caught up.Athletico Charlton said:
Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday. It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.Cafc43v3r said:Accounts are over due aren't they?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466
Isn't that an automatic embargo now?
Any citizen can write to the company at its registered addressed and request a copy of the published accounts, they are a matter of public record and the request may not be declined. You might have to supply a S.A.E.0 -
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I'd argue that depends on if you happen to be Lee Bowyer keen on having weekly chat with Richard Cawley. No doubt the leaks reduced after his departure.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.
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I recall he was touting a number of clubs who ought to buy Eisa a while back and we were named as one of them. I think Oxford was another. He scored 5 goals last season and McAnthony paid £1m for him. It has been decided he is sub Championship and he wants some of the money back.2
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Perhaps it's the back and forth about lack of activity but it feels to me like there has been a lot less business done "in public" than prior.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.
I concede a lot of this is probably down to the lack of "super duper transfer phone" nonsense but it feels more controlled to me.
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Dazzler21 said:
So why does it feel we are more in the dark than ever before on transfers etc?Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.
Because nothing is happening?
Steve Gallen has had to take his wife shopping. Thomas is busy practicing the chords of VFR. Nigel is out for a walk. And Ged Roddy ..... I mean nobody has any idea what he even does, right?
#justanotherdayatsparrowslane
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No pleasing anyone here, an actual rumour and people already saying we should do better. We are a league one club, we dont know our budget/ plan so not sure how when someone like Mo Eisa becomes available people can say otherwise, i bet half the people haven't even seen him play. I have barely seen a few times and everytime he has stood out but not recently i admit.
Decent goalscoring record, pacey whats not to like. I'd be well happy if we can get him.1 -
I believe so yes. At Southampton it’s what he played, at Hull for the most of his time there it was 4231, last few games he managed Hull it was 4411. Either way it’s clear he likes wingers or inside forwards working with a lone target man and a play maker behind. No problems with the formation, it’s very good if you have the right players for itDazzler21 said:
Are we gonna go 4-2-3-1? I could see that working out quite well as an option, but that puts a few of our better players in odd positions.Braziliance said:Eisa playing behind Stockley just based on watching his montages could work very well or even as a partnership up top, definitely a player I wouldn't turn my nose up at3 -
I am just saying McAnthony is not a reliable source and gave reasons for it.1
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We were far more in the dark in the days before the internet!Dazzler21 said:
So why does it feel we are more in the dark than ever before on transfers etc?Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.3 -
I’d be shocked if we are in for Fraser, has Wigan written all over it.I’d be happy with Eisa, local lad, has bagged in the past (albeit lower league) and is a good striker at this level.0
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Like who? It’s really not that different from a 4-3-3.Dazzler21 said:
Are we gonna go 4-2-3-1? I could see that working out quite well as an option, but that puts a few of our better players in odd positions.Braziliance said:Eisa playing behind Stockley just based on watching his montages could work very well or even as a partnership up top, definitely a player I wouldn't turn my nose up at2 -
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Morgan wearing the 10 shirt is a big clue tbh1
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If last night at Welling was anything to go by NA likes a good old diagonal pass out of defence to a winger.Braziliance said:
I believe so yes. At Southampton it’s what he played, at Hull for the most of his time there it was 4231, last few games he played a 4411. Either way it’s clear he likes wingers or inside forwards working with a lone target man and a play maker behind. No problems with the formation, it’s very good if you have the right players for itDazzler21 said:
Are we gonna go 4-2-3-1? I could see that working out quite well as an option, but that puts a few of our better players in odd positions.Braziliance said:Eisa playing behind Stockley just based on watching his montages could work very well or even as a partnership up top, definitely a player I wouldn't turn my nose up at1 -
Possibly some truth in that but it would be naive to think Bowyer was planting transfer stories. They come from all sorts of unexpected places and obvious ones like other clubs, agents, other journalists around the country. The value of the relationship with the manager is in standing them up or knocking them down. No reason to think Rich doesn’t have those conversations with Adkins.Vfrf said:
I'd argue that depends on if you happen to be Lee Bowyer keen on having weekly chat with Richard Cawley. No doubt the leaks reduced after his departure.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.
Sometimes “there’s nothing close”, which isn’t much of a story when repeated regularly. It doesn’t mean nothing will be close the next week or that no signings are intended.0 -
As the famous Reading Gaol keeper almost said "Money doesn't buy success but it does you bring you a better class of failure"
With Eisa and Stock(ley) we're clearly thinking financially.
Eisa seems a worthwhile punt, he has pace that we lack up top but if we aren't accepting the first price being asked by Posh then good, let's negotiate. IF SG and NA want him then that's good enough for me although I don't put too much into likes on twitter.4 -
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Bring Back Naby!golfaddick said:
If last night at Welling was anything to go by NA likes a good old diagonal pass out of defence to a winger.Braziliance said:
I believe so yes. At Southampton it’s what he played, at Hull for the most of his time there it was 4231, last few games he played a 4411. Either way it’s clear he likes wingers or inside forwards working with a lone target man and a play maker behind. No problems with the formation, it’s very good if you have the right players for itDazzler21 said:
Are we gonna go 4-2-3-1? I could see that working out quite well as an option, but that puts a few of our better players in odd positions.Braziliance said:Eisa playing behind Stockley just based on watching his montages could work very well or even as a partnership up top, definitely a player I wouldn't turn my nose up at2 -
My theory on why things may be moving slowly is this. I think we have a plan A and a plan B. One is dependant on Burnley selling Pope and one isn't. What I think is happening is we have baked the cake and we are waiting to see what quality of icing we should go for. It makes sense as if the plan A budget involves some of the Pope profit, you wouldn't want to complete plan B until you are sure plan A isn't happening.
The next question is how likely is it that Burnley will sell Pope. He is contracted to 2023, so this season is probably the peak of his value. Have Spurs or even Manchester United sorted out their keeping options is another key question. If this is the case, we can't wait for plan A for too much longer I would assume.0 -
Plan A can wait until we manage to get into the Championship.1
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True, although just to clarify I don't think Bowyer was planting anything, just that the way he always come across was shooting from the hip so don't think he'd be as coy. If we were looking at Mo Eisa for example, I think Bowyer would come out and say he's somebody we're interested in where as Adkins seems to be the kind to keep a tight ship and very professional which is why we see Cawley only release things once the ink is dry. I have no problem with the system and actually prefer it this way round personally.Airman Brown said:
Possibly some truth in that but it would be naive to think Bowyer was planting transfer stories. They come from all sorts of unexpected places and obvious ones like other clubs, agents, other journalists around the country. The value of the relationship with the manager is in standing them up or knocking them down. No reason to think Rich doesn’t have those conversations with Adkins.Vfrf said:
I'd argue that depends on if you happen to be Lee Bowyer keen on having weekly chat with Richard Cawley. No doubt the leaks reduced after his departure.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely but I can’t recall an era when the club has talked openly about its transfer targets. It’s all leaks and the current set-up is no better or worse at preventing that than previous ones, because it’s not under their control.thenewbie said:
Valid point, but I think it's still creditable that Charlton as a club do seem to be trying to avoid having a lot of leaks/rumours. And certainly just because we do seem to have an interest in Eisa doesn't mean he's our only or even a main target. Just one option that has been looked at.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.Airman Brown said:This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.
Sometimes “there’s nothing close”, which isn’t much of a story when repeated regularly. It doesn’t mean nothing will be close the next week or that no signings are intended.
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