Why would we be under an embargo? You've seen the recent accounts and the fact embargos are now public. Or is it as simple as not signing >6 players by now = means to create harmful gossip!
I know loans are often confirmed at the last minute, but I’m assuming the club will know that specific loans are likely, barring last minute interest from ‘bigger’ clubs? So if we know it’s probable we’ll be getting excellent loanees at left back and CB, then the club are less likely to be signing ones, which would leave fans feeling we’re weak in those areas right up to the last minute.
That’s a dangerous game if things don’t work out the way you hoped.
No doubt we’ll have a few options for each position so I’m not worried we won’t get anyone. Just hope we can avoid the Smith/Smyth/Levitt type loans that weren’t quite up to it.
Why would we be under an embargo? You've seen the recent accounts and the fact embargos are now public. Or is it as simple as not signing >6 players by now = means to create harmful gossip!
We’re not under an umbongo. I’m just saying, it’s a bit slow, isn’t it? Would like to have done a bit more business by now so they get a good pre-season together.
Why would we be under an embargo? You've seen the recent accounts and the fact embargos are now public. Or is it as simple as not signing >6 players by now = means to create harmful gossip!
We’re not under an umbongo. I’m just saying, it’s a bit slow, isn’t it? Would like to have done a bit more business by now so they get a good pre-season together.
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So would every club … but you can’t force players and agents to make their minds up … our business as been excellent compared to others in league one .. lot of money spent despite the loses the club had to cope with … over all very decent window so far and more to come before September
Why would we be under an embargo? You've seen the recent accounts and the fact embargos are now public. Or is it as simple as not signing >6 players by now = means to create harmful gossip!
We’re not under an umbongo. I’m just saying, it’s a bit slow, isn’t it? Would like to have done a bit more business by now so they get a good pre-season together.
#5yearplan
So would every club … but you can’t force players and agents to make their minds up … our business as been excellent compared to others in league one .. lot of money spent despite the loses the club had to cope with … over all very decent window so far and more to come before September
Really? I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not demanding we spend millions, and there's plenty of quality players available out there for free, but we've still not spent much. Only paid for Clare and Stockley, I can't imagine it's more than 500k up front with a few add ons.
We’ve still got 4 loan spots to fill and those will come later in the window. I think we’re going to have an interesting deadline day, but the final squad will probably be put together pretty late
Hmmm. Thought I remember at the end of April the club saying that being in the mix for the play offs was not helping our plans for the summer as we didnt know what league we might be in next season. That issue was all sorted on May 7th.
Gomes, konsa, Shelvey, lookman we’re all unknowns when we blooded them. Look where they are now. if they’re good enough then get our youngsters in the team. Theyre going to make some mistakes but perhaps Adkins is already seeing the promise.
I said that self same thing recently. I quoted ' If you are good enough, you are old enough '. I then listed a lot of players back to the 1950's to show how many were really successful.
All I got was mocking nonsense telling me I always talk rubbish.
Let us see if you get the same criticism.
That's because quoting footballers back to the 1950s is not relevant to today's game.
Gomes, konsa, Shelvey, lookman we’re all unknowns when we blooded them. Look where they are now. if they’re good enough then get our youngsters in the team. Theyre going to make some mistakes but perhaps Adkins is already seeing the promise.
I said that self same thing recently. I quoted ' If you are good enough, you are old enough '. I then listed a lot of players back to the 1950's to show how many were really successful.
All I got was mocking nonsense telling me I always talk rubbish.
Let us see if you get the same criticism.
That's because quoting footballers back to the 1950s is not relevant to today's game.
It was also pointed out to him that whilst young players maybe good enough technically, they may struggle physically and mentally with the requirements of League One football over the course of a gruelling season. But like usual, he ignored that and played the victim instead.
Matched up player for player I make it this seasons team wins 6-2 with 3 being the same.
And we’ve not even finished business yet, things are better, relax people.
You're comparing apples & pears.
Last season :
We had an owner trying to sell us to someone the EFL would not accept as "fit & proper"
We had been under a transfer embargo since Jan. Only players we could bring in were on a "like for like" wages basis
There was a wage cap.
This season:
We have an owner who is stable & has put in over £10m into the club
The owner says he wants Premier League status in 5 years
We are not under an embargo
There is no wage cap.
Apart from that your comparisons stack up well. I'm all for debate but at least get the facts right.
I’m comparing charlton 20/21 with charlton 21/22, that’s apples and apples. My facts are right that is the team we started with last season, apart from perhaps you could debate the starting XI Adkins will go with. Either way this season we are much better.
The fact we had shit owners then and good owners now is irrelevant to my point, which is that things are a lot better and that those is a state of panic such as yourself, should relax a bit.
From CAFC themselves The striker joins the Addicks for an undisclosed fee and in doing so becomes Lee Bowyer’s second signing of the summer transfer window following the arrival of Alex Gilbey on Wednesday.
From CAFC themselves The striker joins the Addicks for an undisclosed fee and in doing so becomes Lee Bowyer’s second signing of the summer transfer window following the arrival of Alex Gilbey on Wednesday.
No fee was disclosed can also mean no fee was transferred between clubs.
Why would we be under an embargo? You've seen the recent accounts and the fact embargos are now public. Or is it as simple as not signing >6 players by now = means to create harmful gossip!
We’re not under an umbongo. I’m just saying, it’s a bit slow, isn’t it? Would like to have done a bit more business by now so they get a good pre-season together.
#5yearplan
I’m assuming you didn’t read the post by cafc43v3r (I think), explaining why the market generally (not just Charlton related) is slow?
From CAFC themselves The striker joins the Addicks for an undisclosed fee and in doing so becomes Lee Bowyer’s second signing of the summer transfer window following the arrival of Alex Gilbey on Wednesday.
From CAFC themselves The striker joins the Addicks for an undisclosed fee and in doing so becomes Lee Bowyer’s second signing of the summer transfer window following the arrival of Alex Gilbey on Wednesday.
The club also claimed they received a fee for Lepoint but he was on the FAs released list.
I expect in this case Cawley is right and using the term undisclosed was agreed between the clubs despite us paying nothing. It doesn’t look good for the selling club it they admit to their fans they gave a decent player away for free.
I also really can’t see how either version of ESI were funding transfers at the time worth almost half a million (going off the figures you claimed to be be the fees).
From CAFC themselves The striker joins the Addicks for an undisclosed fee and in doing so becomes Lee Bowyer’s second signing of the summer transfer window following the arrival of Alex Gilbey on Wednesday.
No fee was disclosed can also mean no fee was transferred between clubs.
Why go to the effort of saying undisclosed fee if there's not fee at all? Transfermarkt usually have a '?' for undisclosed fees, Washington has '?' but Gilbey has £198k - they must have that figure from somewhere I'd assume.
Matched up player for player I make it this seasons team wins 6-2 with 3 being the same.
And we’ve not even finished business yet, things are better, relax people.
You're comparing apples & pears.
Last season :
We had an owner trying to sell us to someone the EFL would not accept as "fit & proper"
We had been under a transfer embargo since Jan. Only players we could bring in were on a "like for like" wages basis
There was a wage cap.
This season:
We have an owner who is stable & has put in over £10m into the club
The owner says he wants Premier League status in 5 years
We are not under an embargo
There is no wage cap.
Apart from that your comparisons stack up well. I'm all for debate but at least get the facts right.
I’m comparing charlton 20/21 with charlton 21/22, that’s apples and apples. My facts are right that is the team we started with last season, apart from perhaps you could debate the starting XI Adkins will go with. Either way this season we are much better.
The fact we had shit owners then and good owners now is irrelevant to my point, which is that things are a lot better and that those is a state of panic such as yourself, should relax a bit.
I'm not panicking......but I'm hoping that everyone agrees that we bloody well should be in a better position now than we were first game last season & so the lack of follow through from all the rhetoric that had been spouted from TS & NA is puzzling.
Remember, it's not us fans saying that we should "blow through this league" or " that will be us lifting the trophy next season"
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Amos
Barker, Oshilaja, Pratley, Purrington
Gilbey, Lapslie, JFC
Doughty, Bonne, Washington
Vs
How we will currently kick off 21/22:
McGillivray
Matthews, Innis, Famewo, Purrington
Gilbey, Dobson, Clare
Jaiyesimi, Stockley, Washington
Matched up player for player I make it this seasons team wins 6-2 with 3 being the same.
And we’ve not even finished business yet, things are better, relax people.
Last season :
We had an owner trying to sell us to someone the EFL would not accept as "fit & proper"
We had been under a transfer embargo since Jan. Only players we could bring in were on a "like for like" wages basis
There was a wage cap.
This season:
We have an owner who is stable & has put in over £10m into the club
The owner says he wants Premier League status in 5 years
We are not under an embargo
There is no wage cap.
Apart from that your comparisons stack up well. I'm all for debate but at least get the facts right.
The fact we had shit owners then and good owners now is irrelevant to my point, which is that things are a lot better and that those is a state of panic such as yourself, should relax a bit.
The striker joins the Addicks for an undisclosed fee and in doing so becomes Lee Bowyer’s second signing of the summer transfer window following the arrival of Alex Gilbey on Wednesday.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/too-good-to-refuse-lee-bowyer-tells-us-why-charlton-athletic-allowed-macauley-bonnes-qpr-move/
I expect in this case Cawley is right and using the term undisclosed was agreed between the clubs despite us paying nothing. It doesn’t look good for the selling club it they admit to their fans they gave a decent player away for free.
I also really can’t see how either version of ESI were funding transfers at the time worth almost half a million (going off the figures you claimed to be be the fees).
Transfermarkt usually have a '?' for undisclosed fees, Washington has '?' but Gilbey has £198k - they must have that figure from somewhere I'd assume.
Remember, it's not us fans saying that we should "blow through this league" or " that will be us lifting the trophy next season"