Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

1667668670672673867

Comments

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    From 3rd August:

    Crewe Alex manager Dave Artell is hoping for a breakthrough in Tommy Lowery’s contract talks but admits to frustration so far.
    The 23-year-old midfielder is entering the final year of his current deal and hasn’t been selected for pre-season games because he hasn't signed the new contract.

    Artell says Lowery has continued to train professionally but there is a disagreement about elements of the offer.

    Speaking at this week’s meet-the-fans event at the club, the manager said: “We made an offer to Tom probably ten or 12 weeks ago. He wanted something in the contract, we couldn’t agree to what he asked for. The agent believes that is correct but we have proved through facts from previous transfers out of League One midfielders that it is not the case.”

    The manager revealed that he and assistant manager Kenny Lunt had lengthy talks with the midfielder on Monday but the stalemate remains.

    Artell says no player is bigger than the club and it’s up to Lowery and his representative to make the next move. He says he fundamentally disagrees with the position taken by the player and his agent.

    However, he added: “I am hopeful. Tom is a great bloke. Quite a lot of us call him 'The Smiler' because he is such a bubbly character and I am hopeful there will be an amicable and sensible resolution.


    He has the same agent as Joe Gomez.  The request is obviously for a release clause that they can't agree on, why else would they provide stats for midfielders transfered out of league 1?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    Lowery? Should be good on canvas, trouble is we need a footballer not another wrestler like Pearce 😉
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    Apparently Gallen wanted to go to Birmingham.
    Ridiculous Comment 
  • BowSelecta
    BowSelecta Posts: 146
    Apparently Gallen wanted to go to Birmingham.
    No one wants to go to Birmingham, it’s why HS2 is such a waste of money 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 
    The only signing we had much talk about more than 24-48 hours before signing was Stockley. Technically Kirk too but I believe we were already in talks when the chat actually started.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,485
    edited August 2021
    Rothko said:
    RedRobin said:
    Rothko said:
    Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
    Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it. 
    The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident 
    🎼 Oh Mr Porter what shall I do?
    I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe.
    Send me back to London as quickly as you can.
    Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,177
    Just over 2 weeks of the window left. We need 5-6 players. In our recruitment staff we trust ?  Well , actually,  no.
    I think we maybe need one more than that to get ourselves in the position we need to be:

    Striker to compete with Stockley 
    Morgan replacement (Morgan becomes squad player)
    Clare replacement (Clare becomes squad player)
    New left back 
    Additional centre back option 
    Reserve keeper to put pressure on the new bloke 

    Potentially also be nice to get squad options to compete with DJ….

    So 6-7…. We have been told to be patient and they will come. Guess we will find out in the next two weeks.

    We're working hard but come deadline day we just won't be able to get them over the line. Things have gone sour very quickly. Yes TS possibly saved our bacon & continues to fund the club but we're going nowhere.
    Behave yourself. If you think having a stable, viable football club that caters to its fans needs and actually responds to feedback while spending millions of pounds on getting players in is things 'going sour' then frankly you don't deserve to have your club saved. Bloody hell, it was this time last year we weren't even sure if we were going to have a club anymore and now two games into the new season with the transfer window still open everything has gone to shit and we're 'going nowhere'. The entitlement of fans this season is astonishing
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Rothko said:
    RedRobin said:
    Rothko said:
    Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
    Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it. 
    The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident 
    He could travel down with them to Cherwell Valley services then thumb a lift to MK. It's not far....... 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,316
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,609
    edited August 2021
    Rothko said:
    RedRobin said:
    Rothko said:
    Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
    Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it. 
    The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident 
    🎼 Oh Mr Porter what shall I do, I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe?
    Send me back to London as quickly as you can.
    Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼
    Very good,,exit stage left.. B)

  • Sponsored links:



  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    RedRobin said:
    From another forum but Gallen is apparently back up Crewe today…….

    Lowery maybe? 
    He found a lovely spot on platform 4
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,485
    _MrDick said:
    Apparently Gallen wanted to go to Birmingham.
    Ridiculous Comment 
    Whoooosh!!!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    edited August 2021
    thenewbie said:
    Maccn05 said:
    Clarky said:


    Obviously getting these deals done is not really simple, however , I think this is a perfectly reasonable tweet and thought process. The top 4 players are all playing in League 1 and will all be on lower wages than we should be able to afford bearing in mind 3 of them play in front of crowds of 5k or less. The loan player will be a Prem loan. Maybe they want to go to the Championship but money there seems even tighter than our League and as we reach the end of the window , its reasonable to assume that prices will fall a bit from those quoted above.
     
    None of us are privy to what Thomas's financial limitations are but I think the basic premise above is a fair one that with the players quoted, all of whom are likely to be available and on 'relatively' low wages we would be building a team for the next 3-4 years and we would have a much greater chance of promotion which brings a stronger financial model. 

    Trouble is he criticised TS for his "ridiculous claims" and begins this bit of fun with "it's really simple". 
    Well picking a list of realistic targets is simple - but never said getting the deals done would.

    The claims from TS we’re ridiculous and are proving so, his raising of expectations is a large reason why a big section of the fans are unhappy. That can’t be disputed.

    and to be fair I didn’t Criticise him in the post only on here even though. Some people seem to think you can’t be a TS supporter but still disagree with things he does.
    It absolutely can. I really don't know how people somehow took what was clearly an extravagant and excitable person being extravagant and excitable as some sort of gospel truth or policy pledge.

    If it is "ridiculous" now, it was equally ridiculous then, and if this is true then more fool anyone who took it seriously and now feels daft. Reality is we are in League One in a post-Covid reality and competing against clubs like Sunderland, Wigan and Ipswich (Just as examples) who can at least match us in the market and probably offer more.

    If Sandgaard was a Hulyer or Southall type I would agree.
    Sandgaard is CEO of Zynex Inc.
    I thought you could believe a man of that standing.
    I know better now, but I don't feel daft.
    I won't be so trusting again, which is a pity.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,360
    Rothko said:
    RedRobin said:
    Rothko said:
    Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
    Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it. 
    The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident 
    🎼 Oh Mr Porter what shall I do?
    I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe.
    Send me back to London as quickly as you can.
    Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼

  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    "as per a report by teamtalk'
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,316
    ColinTat said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    "as per a report by teamtalk'
    So it confirmed he was rumoured before he was signed then... 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    Did you even read it?

    "Charlton Athletic are set to win the race to sign Sean Clare from Oxford United, as per a report by TEAMtalk."
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited August 2021
    J BLOCK said:
    ColinTat said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    "as per a report by teamtalk'
    So it confirmed he was rumoured before he was signed then... 
    Less than 24 hours before.

    There wasn't any ITK whispers at all.  Which was my point.   I honestly can't think of any signing that the first anyone heard of it was on the official site/socials.  Maybe deadline day when other outlets can't cover everything?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,316
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    ColinTat said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    "as per a report by teamtalk'
    So it confirmed he was rumoured before he was signed then... 
    Less than 24 hours before.

    There wasn't any ITK whispers at all.  Which was my point. 
    So there was a rumour he signed before he did.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨RUMOUR 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨



  • Sponsored links:



  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    ColinTat said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    "as per a report by teamtalk'
    So it confirmed he was rumoured before he was signed then... 
    Less than 24 hours before.

    There wasn't any ITK whispers at all.  Which was my point. 
    So there was a rumour he signed before he did.
    Well I don't know what time he signed, do you?  The article appeared in the morning and he was announced in the afternoon.  Maybe he had signed by the time the article appeared.  Your being pedantic now. 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,316
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    ColinTat said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    "as per a report by teamtalk'
    So it confirmed he was rumoured before he was signed then... 
    Less than 24 hours before.

    There wasn't any ITK whispers at all.  Which was my point. 
    So there was a rumour he signed before he did.
    Well I don't know what time he signed, do you?  The article appeared in the morning and he was announced in the afternoon.  Maybe he had signed by the time the article appeared.  Your being pedantic now. 
    Fella, he was rumoured to sign before he did, you have proved my point. Stop fighting it. 
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Reading in to it it looks like Tranmere are due compensation if he signs for anyone which stopped Wigan doing a deal with him. Seen a few tranmere fans say he’s got potential and has the odd good game but just doesn’t have the motivation to do it often enough. 
  • J BLOCK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Painfully quite 
    Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
    Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour. 
    Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.

    Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that. 

    Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted. 

    Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
    That's not really the point.

    The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more. 


    I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article 

    https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
    Finally, a rumour.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨RUMOUR 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨


    He is rapid 
  • RedRobin said:
    From another forum but Gallen is apparently back up Crewe today…….

    Lowery maybe? 
    There is a historic railway station and a railway museum in Crewe. Say no more ;)
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Tranmere fans say he plays well when he can be bothered, which works out about once every 5 games. Sounds like a typical Charlton winger.
  • an amicable and sensible resolution would be to sell him to us. Hopefully 


    Crewe trying to Klingon to him?
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,668
    edited August 2021
    Sounds like it might be done or imminent if Cawley's reporting on it?
This discussion has been closed.