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Quite right, and I took it with a pinch of salt. Problem is not everyone on Twitter would have. You needed a Joke Alert emoji. ‘cept there isn’t one.Maccn05 said:
When did I have a pop for not following my suggested signings? … your just making stuff up now, that’s pretty weird too.Todds_right_hook said:
I just find it very weird that fully grown men go onto Twitter and list signings we should make and how much we should pay, having a pop at the owner for not following your suggestions along the way.Maccn05 said:
Where was I being TS’s chief scout and telling him how to spend his money 🤣🤣🤣Todds_right_hook said:
Telling the guy how to spend his money and act as chief scout on Twitter. Not long before schools go back and social media won’t be full of this rubbish 👏🏻Maccn05 said:
So we can’t challenge anything TS says or does… we just blindly agree because it’s TS?Todds_right_hook said:
Divided fan base which you’ve added fuel to the fire with needless comments on TSMaccn05 said:
So to be open this was my post on Twitter.MrBurns said:
Tucker for £0.5m LOLElliotCAFC said:
This is the kind of thing the recruitment team and TS are up against.Expectations have been set so high, no matter what good business we do, it will be seen as “being done on the cheap” by a vocal section of the fan base.Not digging out this specific poster but it does show how some fans are living in a completely different reality.
My intention was simply to create some debate over who you’d like us to sign if we did spend bit mainly about the balance between do you spend the money and push for promotion and the extra £6m it delivers or do you do it on a budget and continue to lose £5-10m each season of you don’t go up?
Effectively what’s more cost effective / the best way. Not a serious demand of TS - and anyone who thinks it was needs to remove the stick from up their arse!
If you read the full thread you can clearly see I say I don’t expect this to happen at all. It’s just some fun, musings, ideas.
But it also Shows one of the biggest problems - our fanbase is divided right now between ‘The realists’ or the ‘Cult of Sandgaard’ or whatever you want to call it. I try sit in the middle-ish But it’s pretty nasty on the socials.If anyone posts anything on socials it just becomes a mud slinging match, point scoring with people trying to mug people off and a battle between the two sides. Our fan base isn’t a nice place right now, largely instigated by TS’s ridiculous claims. As evidenced on here by the comments to my post and it’s why I rarely post anymore after trying to get involved with this ‘community’The names selected were simply players I rate I have no ideas on the fees, I’m just a fan. But for your information I was told by some people who have a direct line in that yeah we did hold discussions with Tucker (no fee agreed) and we did discuss a deal when Charles (he was interested but wants a Champ move, if not would consider us) so is it really so ridiculous or living in another reality?
… and yeah I really do love FM have played it successfully for 30 years particularly on my business travels 👍🏼So chill the F out people it was just a bit of fun. It’s only football!
But well done ignore everything I wrote just to summarise in that way. Your a great example of what I described 👍🏼
I said it was a bit of fun and bit of fantasy football and what it.You really need to calm down, breathe and try to debate rather than just chucking out insults & snidey comments
IT WAS JUST A BIT OF FUN TO HAVE A DEBATE ON POTENTIAL SIGNINGS AND THE RIGHT TRANSFER STRATEGY.
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Be gentle though as she has only recently had the cock removal part of the op.golfaddick said:
Wouldn't know mate......I'm already in a cab with the bird you've been eyeing up all night.Cafc43v3r said:
Like the Millers at closing time?golfaddick said:
This is what happens when you are late to the boxing day sales. All that is left is what no-one else wants. Or damaged goods at the bottom of the bargain bins.CharltontillidieCOYR said:
Not good enough for a top league 1 team pushing for promotion we need better !!ValleyGary said:Tranmere fans say he plays well when he can be bothered, which works out about once every 5 games. Sounds like a typical Charlton winger.4 -
Imagine he's coming in as back up, good signing and Wigan fans were very keen on him when he was on trial.Cafc43v3r said:Article here
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-interested-in-former-aston-villa-winger-corey-blackett-taylor/
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Well this is all going very well isn't it?0
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Hard to get excited about a bloke not really doing it at Tranmere. If he’s a back up to DJ then, I guess. But this feels very much like wheeling and dealing at the arse end. Yes, we need to see the entire picture with our final business by the end of the window. Hopefully this guy will be in the ‘squad’ category, players to supplement a few marquee Kirk-like signings.2
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Probably an upgrade on Ghandour and Clayden, but if we gamble on him not worth more than a one year deal IMO. Saw him for Tranmere against Morecombe, had some good moments with some Chucks style battering ram element.Red_Chester said:
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Tranmere fans on Twitter suggest an attitude problem.
plays well but when he’s off he’s off.
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Hm. Article says 5 goals and 6 assists. For a winger I thought that was OK.Valley11 said:Hard to get excited about a bloke not really doing it at Tranmere. If he’s a back up to DJ then, I guess. But this feels very much like wheeling and dealing at the arse end. Yes, we need to see the entire picture with our final business by the end of the window. Hopefully this guy will be in the ‘squad’ category, players to supplement a few marquee Kirk-like signings.3 -
We need another winger and personally I'd prefer one a bit more proven than Blackett-Taylor but with Washington probably the third choice winger this season, a 4th choice winger isn't a priority signing.0
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Hm. Article says 5 goals and 6 assists. For a winger I thought that was OK.Valley11 said:Hard to get excited about a bloke not really doing it at Tranmere. If he’s a back up to DJ then, I guess. But this feels very much like wheeling and dealing at the arse end. Yes, we need to see the entire picture with our final business by the end of the window. Hopefully this guy will be in the ‘squad’ category, players to supplement a few marquee Kirk-like signings.
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Couple of weeks until the window slams shut and I’m hopeful we’ll be impressed but can’t say I’m confident.7
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The bulk of the investment is debt and property. That gives continuous revenue. As long as the debt can be financed by the club and the property stays saleable it’s just like ORG being a mortgage lender.cabbles said:
How does ORG/the pension fund make a return on its investment? I know the club could make money if they reach the Premier League, but how does that equate to an ROI for the fund? Is it going to be similar to the Glazers at Man Utd?Dippenhall said:
The pension fund has not made a direct investment in the club, it is has passed over it would seem about 0.03%, an insignificant part, of its £13bn of assets to a modest US portfolio manager ORG Portfolio Management as a small play on the market to diversify returns with a bit of risk and a higher potential return.AndyG said:
I do find this whole pension investment thing at Ipswich very interesting. I like alot of people have a SIPP and through that own some commercial property. When one of them need some maintenance the pension administrator insists I get 3 quotes for anything I spend from my SIPP. This is slightly annoying as I own a building maintenance company lol, but that is the job of a pension administrator and why I pay them their fees. How on earth has the administrator of that American fund approved investment into a football club in the uk ?Rothko said:
Exactly, very easy to spend Karen from Ohio 401k then your own moneyshine166 said:Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
It seems most of the investment will have been to acquire debt and property from Marcus Evans, so mostly fixed rate returns, and probably at tasty rates. That is the attraction for the pension fund.
The 90% equity gives ORG overall control to appoint management and give a windfall if Ipswich get promoted and justify the level of risk being taken. It does not mean there is a gravy train of cash pouring out of the pension fund. It is an arms length investment via ORG and if it goes bad it will just be one of the many small higher risk investments that statistically will go bad for the pension fund.
The pension fund will not be involved in the day to day running of the club, or writing cheques for Paul Cook, that is down to the management team. ORG is 90% shareholder but only has one representative sitting on the board. That is not the set up if you gave the club your magic porridge pot.
The management team calling the shots and spunking money on players are the 3 yanks who own "Three Lions Fund" which has a 5% investment and the CEO who is ex West Brom CEO. If it goes bad these will be the fall guys who ORG will blame for losing money for their client pension fund. ORG is not playing with its own money and it will not throw good money after bad on behalf of its client.
The idea that the pension fund is writing cheques for Paul Cook, or that he has access to an unlimited source of money is fanciful.
Paul Cook has been given the keys to the sweet shop, but when he runs out of sweets and the club is still in League 1 he will be stuffed even if the ultimate owner does have £13bn of assets.
The acquisition of 90% equity is the lottery ticket that cost £1. The number comes up on getting to Premiership.1 -
Blackett-Taylor sounds like a player with the talent but not the attitude. That's pretty much what Adkins is for though, isn't it? A supportive manager who can bring the best out of him sounds like exactly what he needs. There are plenty who wish that Adkins had been around for Williams and Maddison, so getting in talent that needs his head sorting should be a good thing for us.
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Adkins has gone on record a few times saying he wants young, hungry, point-to-prove type players. Maybe that's what he sees in Blackett-Taylor looking beyond the base stats2
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Was Adkins the manager that couldn't manage Puncheon at Southampton. I honestly can't remember.Garrymanilow said:Blackett-Taylor sounds like a player with the talent but not the attitude. That's pretty much what Adkins is for though, isn't it? A supportive manager who can bring the best out of him sounds like exactly what he needs. There are plenty who wish that Adkins had been around for Williams and Maddison, so getting in talent that needs his head sorting should be a good thing for us.0 -
3 goals, 3 assists, 3 yellow cards, 2 red cards.stoneroses19 said:Wheresmeticket? said:
Hm. Article says 5 goals and 6 assists. For a winger I thought that was OK.Valley11 said:Hard to get excited about a bloke not really doing it at Tranmere. If he’s a back up to DJ then, I guess. But this feels very much like wheeling and dealing at the arse end. Yes, we need to see the entire picture with our final business by the end of the window. Hopefully this guy will be in the ‘squad’ category, players to supplement a few marquee Kirk-like signings.1 -
Depends where you look I suppose...stoneroses19 said:Wheresmeticket? said:
Hm. Article says 5 goals and 6 assists. For a winger I thought that was OK.Valley11 said:Hard to get excited about a bloke not really doing it at Tranmere. If he’s a back up to DJ then, I guess. But this feels very much like wheeling and dealing at the arse end. Yes, we need to see the entire picture with our final business by the end of the window. Hopefully this guy will be in the ‘squad’ category, players to supplement a few marquee Kirk-like signings.0 -
I'm of a similar mindset. I'm staying positive as much as possible as long as possible as until the window is shut it's impossible to judge fairly, but to say I have high hopes or great expectations would be completely inaccurate.ShootersHillGuru said:Couple of weeks until the window slams shut and I’m hopeful we’ll be impressed but can’t say I’m confident.
I'm sure there's reasons enough why things don't seem to have gone to plan but that doesn't mean rewriting history to claim this was the plan all along either.2 -
According to Wikipedia, he’s 5ft 7. You sure you are talking about the right player?Ferryman said:
Probably an upgrade on Ghandour and Clayden, but if we gamble on him not worth more than a one year deal IMO. Saw him for Tranmere against Morecombe, had some good moments with some Chucks style battering ram element.Red_Chester said:
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Only thing I know about Blackett-Taylor is that he is absolutely lightening quick.4
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I'm concerned. However,a mate of mine who has a bit of an ear with the club isn't.ShootersHillGuru said:Couple of weeks until the window slams shut and I’m hopeful we’ll be impressed but can’t say I’m confident.
Reckons Gallen is confident of getting some good quality through the door before the close. Thinks it may go to the wire as he thinks we've missed out on a few gooduns in the past right at the end of windows past because Duchatelet would never stump up.
Hopefully TS is a bit looser with the purse strings?12 -
If this is the case, does address an area we are lacking. Could be useful impact sub.Covered_End_Lad said:Only thing I know about Blackett-Taylor is that he is absolutely lightening quick.4 -
I can't remember either, but he made Guly do Prado look like a footballer so there's thatCafc43v3r said:
Was Adkins the manager that couldn't manage Puncheon at Southampton. I honestly can't remember.Garrymanilow said:Blackett-Taylor sounds like a player with the talent but not the attitude. That's pretty much what Adkins is for though, isn't it? A supportive manager who can bring the best out of him sounds like exactly what he needs. There are plenty who wish that Adkins had been around for Williams and Maddison, so getting in talent that needs his head sorting should be a good thing for us.
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Just not when in possession of a football.Covered_End_Lad said:Only thing I know about Blackett-Taylor is that he is absolutely lightening quick.0 -
That's literally what Steve Gallen and Thomas Sandgaard have said. I don't know why this is going round and round in circles discussing the same pointscarly burn said:
I'm concerned. However,a mate of mine who has a bit of an ear with the club isn't.ShootersHillGuru said:Couple of weeks until the window slams shut and I’m hopeful we’ll be impressed but can’t say I’m confident.
Reckons Gallen is confident of getting some good quality through the door before the close. Thinks it may go to the wire as he thinks we've missed out on a few gooduns in the past right at the end of windows past because Duchatelet would never stump up.
Hopefully TS is a bit looser with the purse strings?2 -
It's the hope that kills you.carly burn said:
I'm concerned. However,a mate of mine who has a bit of an ear with the club isn't.ShootersHillGuru said:Couple of weeks until the window slams shut and I’m hopeful we’ll be impressed but can’t say I’m confident.
Reckons Gallen is confident of getting some good quality through the door before the close. Thinks it may go to the wire as he thinks we've missed out on a few gooduns in the past right at the end of windows past because Duchatelet would never stump up.
Hopefully TS is a bit looser with the purse strings?0 -
You’ve just added to the circle.SamE7 said:
That's literally what Steve Gallen and Thomas Sandgaard have said. I don't know why this is going round and round in circles discussing the same pointscarly burn said:
I'm concerned. However,a mate of mine who has a bit of an ear with the club isn't.ShootersHillGuru said:Couple of weeks until the window slams shut and I’m hopeful we’ll be impressed but can’t say I’m confident.
Reckons Gallen is confident of getting some good quality through the door before the close. Thinks it may go to the wire as he thinks we've missed out on a few gooduns in the past right at the end of windows past because Duchatelet would never stump up.
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is a circle an infinite number of points joined together or a finite number of fatter dots that appear to be conjoined?Of the latter what happens if someone else adds a point that crosses over the previous points made, does that make that part of the circle more worthy ore value than where the points barely touch?0
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As Dennis Rommedahl proved, a good amount of pace can definitely take you an incredibly long way.Covered_End_Lad said:Only thing I know about Blackett-Taylor is that he is absolutely lightening quick.
(See also: David Odonkor; Bebe, Jesper Gronkjaer)0 -
What I posted a couple mins after when someone mentioned the same thing as you…Exiled_Addick said:
If that was the case, wouldn’t you go for something a bit more ambitious than an unattached winger no one has heard of?ValleyGary said:
Or if you want to be cynical, release a story to keep the fans happy. ‘Look, we are doing something….’Bolderhumphreyreid said:I can't quite work out why Cawley has been allowed to make this one public.
It's either because it's a done deal or the players agent needs exposure and he recently had a trial with us or perhaps he's been allowed to put it in the public domain to show another winger (and their agent/club) that if he doesn't hurry up and make a decision then we've got back up options.ValleyGary said:
But if this doesn’t come off then the fans aren’t gonna be bothered. Imagine with the state of some of our fans that we released a story about trying to get Dale and it didn’t happen.Callumcafc said:
I think if it was cynical on the club's part, you'd think they would go all in and put out a story about a top end L1 / Championship calibre player like Owen Dale. Would be a bizarre move to make up a rumour about someone who is moving on from League Two.ValleyGary said:
Or if you want to be cynical, release a story to keep the fans happy. ‘Look, we are doing something….’Bolderhumphreyreid said:I can't quite work out why Cawley has been allowed to make this one public.
It's either because it's a done deal or the players agent needs exposure and he recently had a trial with us or perhaps he's been allowed to put it in the public domain to show another winger (and their agent/club) that if he doesn't hurry up and make a decision then we've got back up options.Btw I’m in no way saying I think this is actually what’s happened. I’m just suggesting another reason that Cawley was able to go public.0
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