Not fussed at all. Nothing against Wales or Welsh people, I just find their team weak and poor to watch at this level. Yes, they did well in the previous competition, but so did Iceland 🤦🏻♂️🤯… Have no ancestral links whatsoever, so probably explains the apathy.
St George was a Turkish immigrant (by today's standards). Therefore it stands to reason that any true Englishman would support Turkey over the daffodil botherers
An immigrant to where ?
Wherever he emigrated to
You saw through my question there 😡
Of course we are not the only nation who venerate St George - there are loads of others - given the treatment of England fans and English club fans when attending matches in Turkey, I am all for a Wales win
I like kebabs, love Socuk and most Turkish food.
I also like rarebit, but like kebabs more.
Maybe I put too much weight on the religious blah-blah and should have just gone with the kebab and rarebit comparison. Reckon more would be with me by now if I had
We have been here before on food related chat (remember our pie and mash spat ?)
Socuk I can just about accept, but kebabs - come on - disgusting 🤮
Ah, I'm not talking about doner kebabs and the cack we get here.
If you're not familiar with proper Turkish kebabs then try and sample a Cag kebab, Testi kebab or any of those listed here:
On the subject of Socuk, absolutely stupendous with fried eggs and cheese, in a toasted roll/sub.
Ok - I was talking about the filth you get here - how anyone can put that meat on the revolving thing in them is mad
Never been to Turkey, so can’t comment on your list (apart from Socuk, which I have had over here at a friends house)
If you can recommend a decent UK Turkish restaurant, I will give it a go
Re doner, it depends on which shop you go to. Most buy their elephants foot from wholesalers and that's a no-no. Some, very few and far between, make up and layer their own with lamb shoulder. Hard to find those places these day, though.
Loads of good Turkish, Greek and middle Eastern restaurants in London - probably my favourite food. As you say the layered doner kebabs are okay but the other ones just look revolting.
St George was a Turkish immigrant (by today's standards). Therefore it stands to reason that any true Englishman would support Turkey over the daffodil botherers
An immigrant to where ?
Wherever he emigrated to
You saw through my question there 😡
Of course we are not the only nation who venerate St George - there are loads of others - given the treatment of England fans and English club fans when attending matches in Turkey, I am all for a Wales win
I like kebabs, love Socuk and most Turkish food.
I also like rarebit, but like kebabs more.
Maybe I put too much weight on the religious blah-blah and should have just gone with the kebab and rarebit comparison. Reckon more would be with me by now if I had
We have been here before on food related chat (remember our pie and mash spat ?)
Socuk I can just about accept, but kebabs - come on - disgusting 🤮
Ah, I'm not talking about doner kebabs and the cack we get here.
If you're not familiar with proper Turkish kebabs then try and sample a Cag kebab, Testi kebab or any of those listed here:
On the subject of Socuk, absolutely stupendous with fried eggs and cheese, in a toasted roll/sub.
I refuse to put any Testi in my mouth thanks
Local Turkish place does fantastic kebabs and I can vouch that Turkish Kebabs are a million times nicer than doner kebabs.
St George was a Turkish immigrant (by today's standards). Therefore it stands to reason that any true Englishman would support Turkey over the daffodil botherers
An immigrant to where ?
Wherever he emigrated to
You saw through my question there 😡
Of course we are not the only nation who venerate St George - there are loads of others - given the treatment of England fans and English club fans when attending matches in Turkey, I am all for a Wales win
I like kebabs, love Socuk and most Turkish food.
I also like rarebit, but like kebabs more.
Maybe I put too much weight on the religious blah-blah and should have just gone with the kebab and rarebit comparison. Reckon more would be with me by now if I had
We have been here before on food related chat (remember our pie and mash spat ?)
Socuk I can just about accept, but kebabs - come on - disgusting 🤮
Ah, I'm not talking about doner kebabs and the cack we get here.
If you're not familiar with proper Turkish kebabs then try and sample a Cag kebab, Testi kebab or any of those listed here:
On the subject of Socuk, absolutely stupendous with fried eggs and cheese, in a toasted roll/sub.
I refuse to put any Testi in my mouth thanks
Local Turkish place does fantastic kebabs and I can vouch that Turkish Kebabs are a million times nicer than doner kebabs.
Turkey vs Wales... blimey there is no positive outcome there, so draw hopefully. Supporting Wales/Scotland is akin to supporting Millwall/Palace for me - unthinkable. But Turkey is Turkey, like Celtic are Celtic for example. Tricky stuff.
Charlton, Palace and Millwall are all (roughly) the same size with similar (ish) histories. Wales is a tiny country, with a tiny population, plus (to make a massive generalisation) they seem quite sound and the ones I know are a good laugh. So for me it’s not the same.
Seriously I’m right behind them (unless they’re playing England obvs) & will be joining in with the anthem 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Do know the words properly, or do you do John Redwood style attempts at phonetically replicating it with no clue what you're singing?
Good question! I had to learn it phonetically (whilst touring Vietnam, it passed the time on the bus lol) mainly because it’s such a tough language to get your English head around. But having been married to a Welsh speaker for 26yrs I do understand a lot of the language & when my in laws all get together I can follow the conversation & can say a few bits.
So when I sing it I do know what I’m singing & Hubby says for an Anglo Irish bird I don’t do it too badly 😜😜😜😂😂😂
Surely it makes more sense to want your closest neighbours to do badly than to want to cheer them on ? Who here would rather Millwall/Palace won when playing Barnsley/Everton just because they are close to us.
I am definitely fussed by Wales' progress and hope they crash and burn.
St George was a Turkish immigrant (by today's standards). Therefore it stands to reason that any true Englishman would support Turkey over the daffodil botherers
An immigrant to where ?
Wherever he emigrated to
You saw through my question there 😡
Of course we are not the only nation who venerate St George - there are loads of others - given the treatment of England fans and English club fans when attending matches in Turkey, I am all for a Wales win
I like kebabs, love Socuk and most Turkish food.
I also like rarebit, but like kebabs more.
Maybe I put too much weight on the religious blah-blah and should have just gone with the kebab and rarebit comparison. Reckon more would be with me by now if I had
We have been here before on food related chat (remember our pie and mash spat ?)
Socuk I can just about accept, but kebabs - come on - disgusting 🤮
Ah, I'm not talking about doner kebabs and the cack we get here.
If you're not familiar with proper Turkish kebabs then try and sample a Cag kebab, Testi kebab or any of those listed here:
I've heard those Testi kebabs really are the dogs bollocks.
Turkey vs Wales... blimey there is no positive outcome there, so draw hopefully. Supporting Wales/Scotland is akin to supporting Millwall/Palace for me - unthinkable. But Turkey is Turkey, like Celtic are Celtic for example. Tricky stuff.
Charlton, Palace and Millwall are all (roughly) the same size with similar (ish) histories. Wales is a tiny country, with a tiny population, plus (to make a massive generalisation) they seem quite sound and the ones I know are a good laugh. So for me it’s not the same.
That’s fair enough, but I’ve been present at more than enough fixtures between the two to have a much different perspective. I’d rather Scotland win than Wales and that’s saying something.
I do love Gavin and Stacey though, so I don’t know.....
I've got a slight bit of Welsh ancestry but with respect to those family members, it doesn't mean anything to me. After the way they celebrated England's defeat against Iceland, I will be tuning in, cheering for Turkey and very much hopeful of them all but being eliminated
Surely it makes more sense to want your closest neighbours to do badly than to want to cheer them on ? Who here would rather Millwall/Palace won when playing Barnsley/Everton just because they are close to us.
I am definitely fussed by Wales' progress and hope they crash and burn.
Does it make sense? Why? In other parts of Europe neighbours seem to get on very well and I envy that. Our relationship with our neighbours is of course coloured by centuries of history, but let’s not go there. I just can’t buy into the ‘they hate us so I hate them back’ argument. Rise above it.
Surely it makes more sense to want your closest neighbours to do badly than to want to cheer them on ? Who here would rather Millwall/Palace won when playing Barnsley/Everton just because they are close to us.
I am definitely fussed by Wales' progress and hope they crash and burn.
Does it make sense? Why? In other parts of Europe neighbours seem to get on very well and I envy that. Our relationship with our neighbours is of course coloured by centuries of history, but let’s not go there. I just can’t buy into the ‘they hate us so I hate them back’ argument. Rise above it.
Yep the Dutch and German fans always cheering each other on....
Surely it makes more sense to want your closest neighbours to do badly than to want to cheer them on ? Who here would rather Millwall/Palace won when playing Barnsley/Everton just because they are close to us.
I am definitely fussed by Wales' progress and hope they crash and burn.
Does it make sense? Why? In other parts of Europe neighbours seem to get on very well and I envy that. Our relationship with our neighbours is of course coloured by centuries of history, but let’s not go there. I just can’t buy into the ‘they hate us so I hate them back’ argument. Rise above it.
Yep the Dutch and German fans always cheering each other on....
I didn’t suggest all other countries loved each other. Presumably you understood that.
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“Sylvia, get your hands out your pock-kets”
Lokkanta looks really good.
Will give midpoint a go as it's local to me.
They should fuck off and die from the competion ASAP!
I had to learn it phonetically (whilst touring Vietnam, it passed the time on the bus lol) mainly because it’s such a tough language to get your English head around.
But having been married to a Welsh speaker for 26yrs I do understand a lot of the language & when my in laws all get together I can follow the conversation & can say a few bits.
So when I sing it I do know what I’m singing & Hubby says for an Anglo Irish bird I don’t do it too badly 😜😜😜😂😂😂
Who here would rather Millwall/Palace won when playing Barnsley/Everton just because they are close to us.
I am definitely fussed by Wales' progress and hope they crash and burn.
I do love Gavin and Stacey though, so I don’t know.....
Yep the Dutch and German fans always cheering each other on....
Should be 2 up at least.