Anyone who thinks him losing his number 1 shirt is disrespectful obviously didn’t watch him much last season.
I think the point is that there was no reason to upset him for no reason. It’s evident that we’ve brought a new keeper in to play but in an age where being number 13 doesn’t mean you won’t play, it seems a bit pointless to take his number off him. He wasn’t particularly good last season, but the list of who was isn’t very long. He’s probably still one of the best back ups in the division. Wollacott could get injured today and miss the whole season.
But surely that would be worse? To let him keep it then not play him. Plus it would confuse Wolly a bit if he’s been told he’s gonna be first choice then gets given number 13.
Anyone who thinks him losing his number 1 shirt is disrespectful obviously didn’t watch him much last season.
I think the point is that there was no reason to upset him for no reason. It’s evident that we’ve brought a new keeper in to play but in an age where being number 13 doesn’t mean you won’t play, it seems a bit pointless to take his number off him. He wasn’t particularly good last season, but the list of who was isn’t very long. He’s probably still one of the best back ups in the division. Wollacott could get injured today and miss the whole season.
But surely that would be worse? To let him keep it then not play him. Plus it would confuse Wolly a bit if he’s been told he’s gonna be first choice then gets given number 13.
I think that's why the context of what's gone on behind closed doors is everything. We all know Wollacott was brought in because he suits Garner's style. With a World Cup coming up, he's come in to play, but we don't know what's been said to Mac. If Garner has said there's no number 1 and they need to battle it out for the starting spot, then I'd argue taking his number would be harsh. Either way, with numbers meaning little anymore it's not worth exaggeration.
He's an adult. He's a professional footballer. It's just a number. Get a grip. Number one or thirteen is irrelevant. He's a rubbish goalkeeper either way.
Our worst number 1 keeper in years, just hope the new keeper is better otherwise we're in trouble
I actually can't remember us having a number 1 keeper as bad as him.
You are too young.
Peter Wakeham .
Tony Laing.
I wasn't impressed by Ben Amos in one stint at the Valley. Nor Jeff Woods really.
Salmon was not over popular.
Amos I rated but yeah not heard of any of the others except remember seeing Salmon in goal when I was younger but couldn't tell you if he was any good or not.
He needs to knuckle down and win the No1 shirt back, he didn't do enough to state his claim last year, anyone who travelled saw his lack of conviction to claim the ball outside his 6 yard box.
It's not disrespect or the end, it's his time to prove us wrong
Twitter is a mouthpiece for arseholes isn’t it? So bizarre.
What I thought was bizarre is how highly rated CM is by some of our fans.
I don’t think he’s terrible at all but we’ve had quite a few good keepers in recent history and he’s got to be one of the weakest.
Perhaps the difference with GKs is you sometimes have to look for what they’re not doing. I’ve never been concerned a Championship club might come in for him, unlike say Dobson and CBT.
Mac's a strange one in that he manages to be simultaneously under and overrated by our fanbase. Obviously it's different sets of people, but he's weirdly polarising. There's a lot of fans who despise him, getting overly upset by him not coming for crosses and making the odd mistake, but there's also those who think he's an unbelieveable keeper and got very - seemingly personally - offended by us bringing in Wollacott. I think the reality is that Mac is just a third division keeper for a reason. He's not a young keeper learning his trade, he's a keeper with some very good attributes and some real glaring flaws that will stop him moving up. He's not great with his feet, though no worse really than your average keeper at this level. He's not going to be part of a 24 pass move, but he can spot a quick long ball on and play it fairly accurately. He's sometimes an excellent shot stopper. Some of the saves he made last season were incredible. He's also capable of having paper wrists and not getting down quick enough for shots and letting in soft ones. He had a big issue with not coming for high balls but it has to be acknowledged that he worked on that and added it to his game towards the end of the season, I just don't understand why it took so long. One thing I will say for him is that he didn't have the annoying weakness Ben Amos had, which is that more or less any long shot on target would go in. I don't remember Mac getting done by too many speculative punts last season. He also seems like a very nice man. I'm not getting too upset about him being the backup or leaving, nor am I delighted with it. It seems like Garner needs a footballing keeper in order to do what he wants and in the modern game that's a fairly big thing, so if Mac doesn't suit that then it's less a judgment on him as a keeper entirely, and more trying to make sure the right kind of player is in the team. It's not hugely different to letting someone like Purrington go to replace him with more of a wingback, it just always seems like much more of a statement when it's a keeper.
You summed it up well, mate.
Macca's a decent Third division keeper, capable of some outstanding saves on his day. But he's only Third division for a reason.
As you say, Garner needs a footballing keeper, as good with his feet and passing ability as he is with his hands. That's not really Macca's game. Wollacott has already proven his worth to Garner at Swindon.
The problem with McG is that he was pretty average as a "traditional" keeper anyway, so his place would be questioned, even if the new manager wanted to play hoofball.
He needs to knuckle down and win the No1 shirt back, he didn't do enough to state his claim last year, anyone who travelled saw his lack of conviction to claim the ball outside his 6 yard box.
It's not disrespect or the end, it's his time to prove us wrong
Completely this. Unfortunately I think there were a few in that team last season who thought a couple of good wins and the odd decent performance meant it was all smiles and progress. He was one of them, along with the likes of Gilbey.
Strange if he throws his toys out the pram because he’s not no1 choice. Any of the players left from last season bar maybe Dobson can look back with any pride in the job they did. They finished 13th in League one - that’s hardly untouchable form
Mac made some great saves last year, but I don't like his style and he never inspired me with confidence. Was hoping he would be replaced, I just hope Wooly is up to the task.
Really do not rate McG at all. Extremely ordinary L1 keeper and totally powderpuff claiming balls in his area. AMB seems very injury prone which is a concern.
Leaves Wollacott (no idea) and Harness (no idea).
Kone coming through the ranks may get a chance sooner than usual for a keeper!
Ghana fixtures are 24th nov til 2nd Dec, guess he will miss port Vale on 19th Nov and Cheltenham on 3rd Dec. Ghana aren't getting out of a group with Portugal and Uraguay in
He’s going to play most of November and December if Wollacott is called up, he needs to sort his shit out by then if he’s still here.
Wollacott should miss one or two games at most.
I’d say at least 4 - Burton, Port Vale, Cheltenham and Morecambe.
Dont think he'll miss the Burton game, as thats last weekend of Premier League games... If the likes of England and Belgium dont need their players before 12th November, then neither do Ghana no offence.
Port Vale and Cheltenham games he will miss (I actually thought the Port Vale game was the last day of Premier League games, hence why I thought he may miss a maximum of one game), whilst the latter is the day after Ghana play Uruguay
Morecambe game is debatable, I'd be surprised if Ghana get out of the group, and he'll have a week to get back to England - Which is a larger gap than what players get when returning from International Duty during the Qualifier breaks etc... Reckon that one will depend on form, and recent results.
He'll also miss the FA Cup 2nd Round, as thats the 26th Nov - But fully expect Macca to be playing in the Cup anyway.
Yeah that’s the one I always think of, or reference when people try to defend him. The worst thing about it was everyone knew it would eventually cross the line, it was just a matter of time. That ball could have bobbed around for 20 minutes and Macca wouldn’t have moved forward an inch.
He’s going to play most of November and December if Wollacott is called up, he needs to sort his shit out by then if he’s still here.
Wollacott should miss one or two games at most.
I’d say at least 4 - Burton, Port Vale, Cheltenham and Morecambe.
Dont think he'll miss the Burton game, as thats last weekend of Premier League games... If the likes of England and Belgium dont need their players before 12th November, then neither do Ghana no offence.
Port Vale and Cheltenham games he will miss (I actually thought the Port Vale game was the last day of Premier League games, hence why I thought he may miss a maximum of one game), whilst the latter is the day after Ghana play Uruguay
Morecambe game is debatable, I'd be surprised if Ghana get out of the group, and he'll have a week to get back to England - Which is a larger gap than what players get when returning from International Duty during the Qualifier breaks etc... Reckon that one will depend on form, and recent results.
He'll also miss the FA Cup 2nd Round, as thats the 26th Nov - But fully expect Macca to be playing in the Cup anyway.
I'm surprised they're not meeting up until after the 12th November. I guess the whole inconvenience of the thing just means they'll have less time with their team before the tournament starts.
You're right though, could only be the 2. Unless they qualify of course, looks unlikely mind.
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He's a professional footballer.
It's just a number.
Get a grip.
Number one or thirteen is irrelevant.
He's a rubbish goalkeeper either way.
It's not disrespect or the end, it's his time to prove us wrong
Was hoping he would be replaced, I just hope Wooly is up to the task.
Leaves Wollacott (no idea) and Harness (no idea).
Kone coming through the ranks may get a chance sooner than usual for a keeper!
Port Vale and Cheltenham games he will miss (I actually thought the Port Vale game was the last day of Premier League games, hence why I thought he may miss a maximum of one game), whilst the latter is the day after Ghana play Uruguay
Morecambe game is debatable, I'd be surprised if Ghana get out of the group, and he'll have a week to get back to England - Which is a larger gap than what players get when returning from International Duty during the Qualifier breaks etc... Reckon that one will depend on form, and recent results.
He'll also miss the FA Cup 2nd Round, as thats the 26th Nov - But fully expect Macca to be playing in the Cup anyway.
I think I would rather rewatch Naby’s at Wembley.
You're right though, could only be the 2. Unless they qualify of course, looks unlikely mind.
I'd have Amos all day long. Although I did recognise this as soon as the season started and didn't rate him after the first few games.