COVID and overseas travel
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            valleynick66 said:
 What happens practically if the LTR is positive before you return? Do TUI quarantine you somewhere and at their cost etc or do you have to make your own plans etc ? I assume you aren’t simply allowed to carry on as normal at your holiday hotel for a further week.bobmunro said:
 Yes, awfully worded. LTR in resort two days before travelling back to UK - PCR within two days of arrival back in UK.JamesSeed said:se9addick said:
 Why do you need to do a Lateral Flow and a PCR test when you get back to the UK?bobmunro said:Off to Zante on Sunday - all double jabbed.
 Greek Locator Form and proof of vaccination required going out (have hard copies and electronic) - Lateral Flow Test within 48 hours of returning to the UK and a PCR test with 48 hours of arriving in UK. Testing pack from TUI (LFT and PCR) - £20
 You don’t. I think they mean LFT before you return, but badly worded. PCR after you return.se9addick said:
 Why do you need to do a Lateral Flow and a PCR test when you get back to the UK?bobmunro said:Off to Zante on Sunday - all double jabbed.
 Greek Locator Form and proof of vaccination required going out (have hard copies and electronic) - Lateral Flow Test within 48 hours of returning to the UK and a PCR test with 48 hours of arriving in UK. Testing pack from TUI (LFT and PCR) - £20It’s this aspect which puts me off trying to holiday overseas yet.
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
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 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)2
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 Think it depends where you are. In Greece and Spain the government there pay for the quarantine hotels.valleynick66 said:
 What happens practically if the LTR is positive before you return? Do TUI quarantine you somewhere and at their cost etc or do you have to make your own plans etc ? I assume you aren’t simply allowed to carry on as normal at your holiday hotel for a further week.bobmunro said:
 Yes, awfully worded. LTR in resort two days before travelling back to UK - PCR within two days of arrival back in UK.JamesSeed said:se9addick said:
 Why do you need to do a Lateral Flow and a PCR test when you get back to the UK?bobmunro said:Off to Zante on Sunday - all double jabbed.
 Greek Locator Form and proof of vaccination required going out (have hard copies and electronic) - Lateral Flow Test within 48 hours of returning to the UK and a PCR test with 48 hours of arriving in UK. Testing pack from TUI (LFT and PCR) - £20
 You don’t. I think they mean LFT before you return, but badly worded. PCR after you return.se9addick said:
 Why do you need to do a Lateral Flow and a PCR test when you get back to the UK?bobmunro said:Off to Zante on Sunday - all double jabbed.
 Greek Locator Form and proof of vaccination required going out (have hard copies and electronic) - Lateral Flow Test within 48 hours of returning to the UK and a PCR test with 48 hours of arriving in UK. Testing pack from TUI (LFT and PCR) - £20It’s this aspect which puts me off trying to holiday overseas yet.0
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 On this basis it’s less the financial risk more the sheer inconvenience and boredom of being in quarantine abroad I see as the big risk.AllLeftFoot said:
 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)It’s not, after all, an extra week at your hotel enjoying the amenities!
 Also it’s seemingly now the case that despite being double jabbed infection is a genuine possibility just far reduced likelihood of illness/issues. Sods law says I could be ok but test positive.Then what happens to your travelling party /family ? Are you all able or required to quarantine or just you etc? Seems a minefield temporarily.0
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 But can you 'enjoy the amenities' if you have to stay because you have tested positive?valleynick66 said:
 On this basis it’s less the financial risk more the sheer inconvenience and boredom of being in quarantine abroad I see as the big risk.AllLeftFoot said:
 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)It’s not, after all, an extra week at your hotel enjoying the amenities!
 Also it’s seemingly now the case that despite being double jabbed infection is a genuine possibility just far reduced likelihood of illness/issues. Sods law says I could be ok but test positive.Then what happens to your travelling party /family ? Are you all able or required to quarantine or just you etc? Seems a minefield temporarily.0
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 That’s my point. I assume not and that you become confined to your room at ‘a n other’ hotel.PrincessFiona said:
 But can you 'enjoy the amenities' if you have to stay because you have tested positive?valleynick66 said:
 On this basis it’s less the financial risk more the sheer inconvenience and boredom of being in quarantine abroad I see as the big risk.AllLeftFoot said:
 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)It’s not, after all, an extra week at your hotel enjoying the amenities!
 Also it’s seemingly now the case that despite being double jabbed infection is a genuine possibility just far reduced likelihood of illness/issues. Sods law says I could be ok but test positive.Then what happens to your travelling party /family ? Are you all able or required to quarantine or just you etc? Seems a minefield temporarily.0
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            Canada and Denmark are among seven countries moving to the green list in the latest changes to Covid restrictions. Thailand and Montenegro are being added to the UK government's red list - meaning they are considered to be among the highest-risk destinations. Finland, the Azores, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Lithuania are also moving to the green list. The changes will come into force at 04:00BST on Monday. 2
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            In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up0
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 In theory that test in Ibiza isn't sufficient for returning to the UK as it isn't an effective test. A friend who is a travel consultant did theirs before leaving Mallorca and you had to do it on zoom or whatever so they see the test is done by the right person and properly.Valleysarr said:In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up
 My understanding is the day 2 tests ARE being followed up - don;' risk a £500 fine for the sake of a £50 test!
 That said, for the Reading Festival you either need to have proof you are double vaccinated more than 14 days or a negative lateral flow test - the lateral flow test could have been done by anyone and may not have even been anywhere near tonsils or up anyone's nose; that's not going to be abused now is it?!2
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 Probably why there were 4,700 positive tests after the Boardmasters festival in Cornwall.PrincessFiona said:
 In theory that test in Ibiza isn't sufficient for returning to the UK as it isn't an effective test. A friend who is a travel consultant did theirs before leaving Mallorca and you had to do it on zoom or whatever so they see the test is done by the right person and properly.Valleysarr said:In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up
 My understanding is the day 2 tests ARE being followed up - don;' risk a £500 fine for the sake of a £50 test!
 That said, for the Reading Festival you either need to have proof you are double vaccinated more than 14 days or a negative lateral flow test - the lateral flow test could have been done by anyone and may not have even been anywhere near tonsils or up anyone's nose; that's not going to be abused now is it?!2
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            The lft for Wembley games people were just putting the code into gov website and putting negative0
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 We paid £28 for a day 2 test which seems like the market rate. Day 2 + 9 tests as required from amber countries were around £50.PrincessFiona said:
 In theory that test in Ibiza isn't sufficient for returning to the UK as it isn't an effective test. A friend who is a travel consultant did theirs before leaving Mallorca and you had to do it on zoom or whatever so they see the test is done by the right person and properly.Valleysarr said:In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up
 My understanding is the day 2 tests ARE being followed up - don;' risk a £500 fine for the sake of a £50 test!
 That said, for the Reading Festival you either need to have proof you are double vaccinated more than 14 days or a negative lateral flow test - the lateral flow test could have been done by anyone and may not have even been anywhere near tonsils or up anyone's nose; that's not going to be abused now is it?!
 The tests were posted to us, we did them at home in about 5 minutes and posted them back. We got the results in three days after posting (both negative) along with a certificate by email.
 althougg we have not received any follow up calls, we did have to input our unique tests ID into the passenger locator form which was required before we flew back or we didn’t get on the plane. So I would also recommend organising one.4
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 No I’m afraid not.PrincessFiona said:
 But can you 'enjoy the amenities' if you have to stay because you have tested positive?valleynick66 said:
 On this basis it’s less the financial risk more the sheer inconvenience and boredom of being in quarantine abroad I see as the big risk.AllLeftFoot said:
 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)It’s not, after all, an extra week at your hotel enjoying the amenities!
 Also it’s seemingly now the case that despite being double jabbed infection is a genuine possibility just far reduced likelihood of illness/issues. Sods law says I could be ok but test positive.Then what happens to your travelling party /family ? Are you all able or required to quarantine or just you etc? Seems a minefield temporarily.FWIW we returned from Dubrovnik on Wednesday and we needed to show the VeriFly App at the airport, but at Heathrow it was just a case of showing our passports. Just a five/ten minute wait in the queue. We used the automatic passport scanners.0
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 We didn’t find that VeriFLY was necessary as long as you had all the details for the required tests to hand.JamesSeed said:
 No I’m afraid not.PrincessFiona said:
 But can you 'enjoy the amenities' if you have to stay because you have tested positive?valleynick66 said:
 On this basis it’s less the financial risk more the sheer inconvenience and boredom of being in quarantine abroad I see as the big risk.AllLeftFoot said:
 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)It’s not, after all, an extra week at your hotel enjoying the amenities!
 Also it’s seemingly now the case that despite being double jabbed infection is a genuine possibility just far reduced likelihood of illness/issues. Sods law says I could be ok but test positive.Then what happens to your travelling party /family ? Are you all able or required to quarantine or just you etc? Seems a minefield temporarily.FWIW we returned from Dubrovnik on Wednesday and we needed to show the VeriFly App at the airport, but at Heathrow it was just a case of showing our passports. Just a five/ten minute wait in the queue. We used the automatic passport scanners.That said all those details were necessary and if we had used VeriFLY it would have been quicker at checkin.0
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            Going to Tenerife on the 17th, as far as I can tell I just need to show I’m double vaccinated to get there and a pcr test when I’m back in the uk?0
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            kentaddick said:Going to Tenerife on the 17th, as far as I can tell I just need to show I’m double vaccinated to get there and a pcr test when I’m back in the uk?
 I think you will also need to do a lateral flow test a couple of days before you leave Tenerife.
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            Yeah I think you need to do a lateral flow test at a test centre in Tenerife where they email you the result (capped at around EUR 30) ans you need to take it within 82 hours of flying back.You also need to have booked your PCR test that you will take when you get back and have the code from that booking. This code is required for your passenger locator form which you must fill in online before checkin. Without the code you cannot complete the form abs you will probably not be able to fly.2
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 ...... And not just any lateral flow test. You will need tests that provide you with certification to prove that you tested negative or you won't be allowed to fly.bobmunro said:kentaddick said:Going to Tenerife on the 17th, as far as I can tell I just need to show I’m double vaccinated to get there and a pcr test when I’m back in the uk?
 I think you will also need to do a lateral flow test a couple of days before you leave Tenerife.
 The tests that we recently took to return from Spain were monitored by Zoom call and once they could see that our tests were negative they e-mailed the certification.3
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 Yes, with the Verifly App they just wanted to see that it had ‘gone green’ and you’re good to go. Sped it up for us, and as most people seemed to be using it the queue moved quickly.Alwaysneil said:
 We didn’t find that VeriFLY was necessary as long as you had all the details for the required tests to hand.JamesSeed said:
 No I’m afraid not.PrincessFiona said:
 But can you 'enjoy the amenities' if you have to stay because you have tested positive?valleynick66 said:
 On this basis it’s less the financial risk more the sheer inconvenience and boredom of being in quarantine abroad I see as the big risk.AllLeftFoot said:
 Apparently the included TUI COVID cover includes 'Costs associated with an extended stay and a new return flight home if you’re asked to quarantine while on holiday.'bobmunro said:
 Yes, that's the big risk. I'm assuming quarantine in an identified for the purpose hotel and at the travelers cost.
 (Have been checking the small print as we are due to be travelling with them as well at the end of next week...)It’s not, after all, an extra week at your hotel enjoying the amenities!
 Also it’s seemingly now the case that despite being double jabbed infection is a genuine possibility just far reduced likelihood of illness/issues. Sods law says I could be ok but test positive.Then what happens to your travelling party /family ? Are you all able or required to quarantine or just you etc? Seems a minefield temporarily.FWIW we returned from Dubrovnik on Wednesday and we needed to show the VeriFly App at the airport, but at Heathrow it was just a case of showing our passports. Just a five/ten minute wait in the queue. We used the automatic passport scanners.That said all those details were necessary and if we had used VeriFLY it would have been quicker at checkin.0
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 What company was that with, as am seeing £48 the minimum at the mo?Alwaysneil said:
 We paid £28 for a day 2 test which seems like the market rate. Day 2 + 9 tests as required from amber countries were around £50.PrincessFiona said:
 In theory that test in Ibiza isn't sufficient for returning to the UK as it isn't an effective test. A friend who is a travel consultant did theirs before leaving Mallorca and you had to do it on zoom or whatever so they see the test is done by the right person and properly.Valleysarr said:In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up
 My understanding is the day 2 tests ARE being followed up - don;' risk a £500 fine for the sake of a £50 test!
 That said, for the Reading Festival you either need to have proof you are double vaccinated more than 14 days or a negative lateral flow test - the lateral flow test could have been done by anyone and may not have even been anywhere near tonsils or up anyone's nose; that's not going to be abused now is it?!
 The tests were posted to us, we did them at home in about 5 minutes and posted them back. We got the results in three days after posting (both negative) along with a certificate by email.
 althougg we have not received any follow up calls, we did have to input our unique tests ID into the passenger locator form which was required before we flew back or we didn’t get on the plane. So I would also recommend organising one.0
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 Yes, you will have to do one in Tenerife before you leave to be able to fly - but at least the Spanish tests aren't as expensive at the UK ones. Although I thought I saw TUI offering testing packages from £20 which seems good, if you are travelling with them though!bobmunro said:kentaddick said:Going to Tenerife on the 17th, as far as I can tell I just need to show I’m double vaccinated to get there and a pcr test when I’m back in the uk?
 I think you will also need to do a lateral flow test a couple of days before you leave Tenerife.0
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 https://www.expert-medicals.co.uk/PrincessFiona said:
 What company was that with, as am seeing £48 the minimum at the mo?Alwaysneil said:
 We paid £28 for a day 2 test which seems like the market rate. Day 2 + 9 tests as required from amber countries were around £50.PrincessFiona said:
 In theory that test in Ibiza isn't sufficient for returning to the UK as it isn't an effective test. A friend who is a travel consultant did theirs before leaving Mallorca and you had to do it on zoom or whatever so they see the test is done by the right person and properly.Valleysarr said:In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up
 My understanding is the day 2 tests ARE being followed up - don;' risk a £500 fine for the sake of a £50 test!
 That said, for the Reading Festival you either need to have proof you are double vaccinated more than 14 days or a negative lateral flow test - the lateral flow test could have been done by anyone and may not have even been anywhere near tonsils or up anyone's nose; that's not going to be abused now is it?!
 The tests were posted to us, we did them at home in about 5 minutes and posted them back. We got the results in three days after posting (both negative) along with a certificate by email.
 althougg we have not received any follow up calls, we did have to input our unique tests ID into the passenger locator form which was required before we flew back or we didn’t get on the plane. So I would also recommend organising one.Green list or fully vaccinated from amber country day 2 kits £283
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            This was the company recommended by the Maltese authorities at the airport, got a unique test reference immediately by email.0
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 Just ordered one of these from Expert Medicals, just make sure you add the test to your cart before entering your details or it just reverts you back to the startAlwaysneil said:
 https://www.expert-medicals.co.uk/PrincessFiona said:
 What company was that with, as am seeing £48 the minimum at the mo?Alwaysneil said:
 We paid £28 for a day 2 test which seems like the market rate. Day 2 + 9 tests as required from amber countries were around £50.PrincessFiona said:
 In theory that test in Ibiza isn't sufficient for returning to the UK as it isn't an effective test. A friend who is a travel consultant did theirs before leaving Mallorca and you had to do it on zoom or whatever so they see the test is done by the right person and properly.Valleysarr said:In Ibiza no checks coming in and have to do a negative before leaving and you do it yourself obs don’t stick the stick all the way done your throat. Something about a Day 2 test getting home but pretty sure no one will follow that up
 My understanding is the day 2 tests ARE being followed up - don;' risk a £500 fine for the sake of a £50 test!
 That said, for the Reading Festival you either need to have proof you are double vaccinated more than 14 days or a negative lateral flow test - the lateral flow test could have been done by anyone and may not have even been anywhere near tonsils or up anyone's nose; that's not going to be abused now is it?!
 The tests were posted to us, we did them at home in about 5 minutes and posted them back. We got the results in three days after posting (both negative) along with a certificate by email.
 althougg we have not received any follow up calls, we did have to input our unique tests ID into the passenger locator form which was required before we flew back or we didn’t get on the plane. So I would also recommend organising one.Green list or fully vaccinated from amber country day 2 kits £280
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            Help needed.
 Returning tomorrow from Ireland, email from Ryanair about passenger location form. Trying to fill out the form and it’s saying that I require a pcr test, this wasn’t the case going out. Have things changed?Have tried phoning the helpline, hanging on for ages.0
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 The current gov.uk advice saysguinnessaddick said:Help needed.
 Returning tomorrow from Ireland, email from Ryanair about passenger location form. Trying to fill out the form and it’s saying that I require a pcr test, this wasn’t the case going out. Have things changed?Have tried phoning the helpline, hanging on for ages.'Ireland, the UK, the Channel Islands and the Isle of ManIf you’re travelling to England from within the UK, Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man, you do not need to: - complete a passenger locator form
- take any COVID-19 tests
- quarantine on arrival in England'
 
 So it seems you do NOT need to. Have you been anywhere else?
 'You must not have been outside of the UK, Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man in the 10 days before you arrive in England'
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            Ireland, the UK, the Channel Islands and the Isle of ManYou do not need to take a COVID-19 test or quarantine on arrival in England if you are travelling within the UK, Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, (the Common Travel Area), and you have not been outside of the Common Travel Area in the previous 10 days. 1
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 If you are filling out a PLF, it is correct that you have to do a PCR. But you don't need to do a PLF if you're a UK passport holder returning (only) from the Republic of Ireland.guinnessaddick said:Help needed.
 Returning tomorrow from Ireland, email from Ryanair about passenger location form. Trying to fill out the form and it’s saying that I require a pcr test, this wasn’t the case going out. Have things changed?Have tried phoning the helpline, hanging on for ages.0
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            Either a lot of people on this thread are missing the point or I have misunderstood.
 As I understand it you take a test on Day 2 after entering the UK. If you or anyone on your mode of transport ('close contact') tests positive then you must isolate for 10 days. This period can be shortened with a Day 5 test.
 The problem with travel is not just if you yourself test positive but if anyone else in close contact to you does. What however is the definition of 'close contact'? I would assume it to include any other passenger on your plane, after all everyone breathes the same recycled air. For a train, is it limited to your carriage and / or those who boarded at the same station, or is it the whole train?0
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 Hope you got/get back okguinnessaddick said:Help needed.
 Returning tomorrow from Ireland, email from Ryanair about passenger location form. Trying to fill out the form and it’s saying that I require a pcr test, this wasn’t the case going out. Have things changed?Have tried phoning the helpline, hanging on for ages.0










