F@cking cheeky cnuts. Ed f@cking f. Took over my green network energy account end of jan 21. Sent email june 21 for the closing account saying we dont have to do nothing at the moment including paying the £95 they think the bill is. Just got in from work and the wife said your not going to be happy theres a letter from edf. If we dont pay in the next 14 days will send debt recovery firm round. Cheeky f@ckers. Will enjoy ringing them up saying theyve got the bill wrong and it's about, £25 I owe them.
So now we see E.On, one of the largest energy suppliers calling on the government to do more. It says that up to 40% of its customers will be in fuel poverty by October. It’s really quite remarkable that people aren’t making more fuss about this lack of any help.
I have a weekly meeting with E.on as my company has a contract with them to install renewable products. Last week they were say that at this time just over 500k of their 8 5m customer base is behind with their Bill's. They are estimating that by March 2023 over 3m will be in that position. A windfall tax that equates to a few hundred quid per household isnt going to touch the sides unfortunately.
If any of you have some spare cash I strongly advise you to get Solar Pv, battery storage and get yourselves on a smart tariff to charge the batteries overnight. This isnt a sales pitch as we do not install down south its honest genuine advice.
I think in September this year the major energy companies will be offering to pay for renewables to be installed on everyone's houses and put the cost onto the household bill interest free over 10 years if the householder wants it so sit tight if you havent got the spare cash
I have a weekly meeting with E.on as my company has a contract with them to install renewable products. Last week they were say that at this time just over 500k of their 8 5m customer base is behind with their Bill's. They are estimating that by March 2023 over 3m will be in that position. A windfall tax that equates to a few hundred quid per household isnt going to touch the sides unfortunately.
If any of you have some spare cash I strongly advise you to get Solar Pv, battery storage and get yourselves on a smart tariff to charge the batteries overnight. This isnt a sales pitch as we do not install down south its honest genuine advice.
I think in September this year the major energy companies will be offering to pay for renewables to be installed on everyone's houses and put the cost onto the household bill interest free over 10 years if the householder wants it so sit tight if you havent got the spare cash
What's the outlay likely to be and how much will it save?
I have a weekly meeting with E.on as my company has a contract with them to install renewable products. Last week they were say that at this time just over 500k of their 8 5m customer base is behind with their Bill's. They are estimating that by March 2023 over 3m will be in that position. A windfall tax that equates to a few hundred quid per household isnt going to touch the sides unfortunately.
If any of you have some spare cash I strongly advise you to get Solar Pv, battery storage and get yourselves on a smart tariff to charge the batteries overnight. This isnt a sales pitch as we do not install down south its honest genuine advice.
I think in September this year the major energy companies will be offering to pay for renewables to be installed on everyone's houses and put the cost onto the household bill interest free over 10 years if the householder wants it so sit tight if you havent got the spare cash
What's the outlay likely to be and how much will it save?
My electricity usage is high so I doubt you would need the batteries that I have mate but if I explain what I did it may help.
If you have a smart meter you can charge batteries on a smart tariff in my case I use Octopus. I pay 8.5p per kw between 12pm and 4.30am. I have 44kw of batteries and solar Pv. I already had the Pv before the batteries though. Before the recent price hike my daily average usage was £29 a day. Fortunately I got the batteries just before the cap lifted if I hadnt I guess my usage would be close to £40 a day. My daily usage now averages £9 a day by running on batteries for the majority of the time. The batteries cost me just over £12k but for most peoples usage I would think £5k would cover most of their requirements add 4kw of solar which up here costs approx £3.5k ( not sure what firms charge down there ) but if it's similar the £8.5k should pretty much cut your bill by atleast 70%. This is all guess work as you need to look at your households usage in terms of Kw consumed daily to work out how much battery capacity you need. As I have said before if anyone wants some unbiased advice just shout no agenda here at all
I must admit i am confused about this price cap.Prior to april,I was paying £160.00 per month to British Gas as a combined gas -electricity payment that is £1920.pa,I am now paying £260.00 per month£3120.00 pa,is this too much there are only two of us in a 3 bed house.
I must admit i am confused about this price cap.Prior to april,I was paying £160.00 per month to British Gas as a combined gas -electricity payment that is £1920.pa,I am now paying £260.00 per month£3120.00 pa,is this too much there are only two of us in a 3 bed house.
What the energy companies are trying to do is increase everyone's DD in an attempt to build up a credit balance to try and mitigate a massive increase in October. Average price increase expected to be approx 42% with the new cap in Oct mate
@AndyG thanks for the note above, which is really interesting. Must admit I’m shocked at the amount of electricity you’re using though.
Coincidentally, Royal Borough of Greewnwich are part of the latest London Mayor drive for “Solar Together”. It’s offered to all London residents and, depending on the uptake, it then goes out to tender. The winning installer this time is a firm called GET UK.
I had to make a judgement on the number of panels needed and they quoted for the panels and, if wanted, a battery. There will still be a formal consultation, but the initial suggestion is:
Number of panels : 15 Panel brand : Jinko Solar Inverter Brand : Fox ESS Battery brand : Fox ESS
Battery Capacity : 4.6kWh
Cost : £10,572 (inc VAT) (£7,625 for the panels & £2,947 for the battery)
I just put this here now for reference for anyone thinking about doing this. The current drive ended a couple of weeks ago but I would suspect that, given where this is all going, another drive will be made soon.
@AndyG thanks for the note above, which is really interesting. Must admit I’m shocked at the amount of electricity you’re using though.
Coincidentally, Royal Borough of Greewnwich are part of the latest London Mayor drive for “Solar Together”. It’s offered to all London residents and, depending on the uptake, it then goes out to tender. The winning installer this time is a firm called GET UK.
I had to make a judgement on the number of panels needed and they quoted for the panels and, if wanted, a battery. There will still be a formal consultation, but the initial suggestion is:
Number of panels : 15 Panel brand : Jinko Solar Inverter Brand : Fox ESS Battery brand : Fox ESS
Battery Capacity : 4.6kWh
Cost : £10,572 (inc VAT) (£7,625 for the panels & £2,947 for the battery)
I just put this here now for reference for anyone thinking about doing this. The current drive ended a couple of weeks ago but I would suspect that, given where this is all going, another drive will be made soon.
Out of interest, how much of your electricity are you expected to get from that outlay? Just looking at even if that provided me with 100% of my electricity it's broadly a ten year pay back (granted prices will be increasing!)
@AndyG thanks for the note above, which is really interesting. Must admit I’m shocked at the amount of electricity you’re using though.
Coincidentally, Royal Borough of Greewnwich are part of the latest London Mayor drive for “Solar Together”. It’s offered to all London residents and, depending on the uptake, it then goes out to tender. The winning installer this time is a firm called GET UK.
I had to make a judgement on the number of panels needed and they quoted for the panels and, if wanted, a battery. There will still be a formal consultation, but the initial suggestion is:
Number of panels : 15 Panel brand : Jinko Solar Inverter Brand : Fox ESS Battery brand : Fox ESS
Battery Capacity : 4.6kWh
Cost : £10,572 (inc VAT) (£7,625 for the panels & £2,947 for the battery)
I just put this here now for reference for anyone thinking about doing this. The current drive ended a couple of weeks ago but I would suspect that, given where this is all going, another drive will be made soon.
Out of interest, how much of your electricity are you expected to get from that outlay? Just looking at even if that provided me with 100% of my electricity it's broadly a ten year pay back (granted prices will be increasing!)
That’s something I want to cover in the consultation @Rob7Lee The initial proposal, included with those pricings above, suggested I would be 75% independent of the grid. But it also suggests the panels will generate 5,169kWh per year, of which I am only using 2,171.
They calculate their numbers on 28p per kWh used - my tariff is already 29.63p. Selling excess electricity back to the grid is based on 7.5p per kWh, which is apparently the best price currently paid at the time of the review.
Ive had solar panels on my roof for about two months now. Similar to TelMc32's quote above. Averaging almost 80% saving on electricity bills so far. that is at least £120 per month probably between April and October. Will be less over winter but must be somewhere near £1200 saving in a year will hopefully mean breaking even in just over 8 years. If prices go up again might get closer to 7 years. I havent included what BGas will pay me for the exported electricity, thats not much though, doubt it will get to £100 per year unless I change suppliers. Its also probably best to not purely look at it as a break even competition though, its also something that is good to do!
Ive had solar panels on my roof for about two months now. Similar to TelMc32's quote above. Averaging almost 80% saving on electricity bills so far. that is at least £120 per month probably between April and October. Will be less over winter but must be somewhere near £1200 saving in a year will hopefully mean breaking even in just over 8 years. If prices go up again might get closer to 7 years. I havent included what BGas will pay me for the exported electricity, thats not much though, doubt it will get to £100 per year unless I change suppliers. Its also probably best to not purely look at it as a break even competition though, its also something that is good to do!
Also, in the short-term I can only see electricity prices increasing, but even if they start to fall again in the future there is likely to be more need for electricity as gas is phased out & electric cars become more common.
The cost of solar panels and batteries rules out 99.9% of U.K. homes. It might well be the ecological thing to do and over the long game be cost effective but for most people it’s a fantasy.
The cost of solar panels and batteries rules out 99.9% of U.K. homes. It might well be the ecological thing to do and over the long game be cost effective but for most people it’s a fantasy.
I agree - the solution lies perhaps in Government subsidy and as part of the overall renewables agenda. If every house in the country had solar/battery technology installed how much would that compare with the costs of on/off-shore wind farms?
This is not a job to be left to the private sector.
Thanks for the reply @AndyG. My situation is that i'm looking at an extra few grand to repair/replace my roof before I put up solar panels. Once I do that the cost is comparable to a heat pump system. I was wondering which is the better bet if I can only afford one of them?
The cost of solar panels and batteries rules out 99.9% of U.K. homes. It might well be the ecological thing to do and over the long game be cost effective but for most people it’s a fantasy.
It is probably out of reach for a lot of homes, but nowhere near 99.9%!
Somebody mentioned the French and how much better they are doing. That's partly due to to the fact that they invested heavily in nuclear power many years ago, something we should have done but the environmentalists didn't like it (what do they fucking approve of?). What is even crazier is that we are sitting on millions of cubic metres of natural gas and refuse to extract it. I am not opposed to any renewable energy, but lets be realistic here, wind and solar power are never going to be enough for a country in Northern Europe with a population fast approaching seventy million. Mind you, up until now solar panels were probably a waste of money due to the payback time, but given the new cost of electricity they may now be much more viable. Anyone have any idea?
The cost of solar panels and batteries rules out 99.9% of U.K. homes. It might well be the ecological thing to do and over the long game be cost effective but for most people it’s a fantasy.
It is probably out of reach for a lot of homes, but nowhere near 99.9%!
90% then. The actual figure is really irrelevant. It’s a pipe dream for most households
Landlords aren't going to be bothered with making expensive improvements, when they are not going to benefit from lower bills. When people are struggling to pay their bills, the last thing they will be able to spend money on is the installation of batteries etc.
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Ed f@cking f.
Took over my green network energy account end of jan 21.
Sent email june 21 for the closing account saying we dont have to do nothing at the moment including paying the £95 they think the bill is.
Just got in from work and the wife said your not going to be happy theres a letter from edf.
If we dont pay in the next 14 days will send debt recovery firm round.
Cheeky f@ckers.
Will enjoy ringing them up saying theyve got the bill wrong and it's about, £25 I owe them.
They won't, though.
If any of you have some spare cash I strongly advise you to get Solar Pv, battery storage and get yourselves on a smart tariff to charge the batteries overnight. This isnt a sales pitch as we do not install down south its honest genuine advice.
I think in September this year the major energy companies will be offering to pay for renewables to be installed on everyone's houses and put the cost onto the household bill interest free over 10 years if the householder wants it so sit tight if you havent got the spare cash
What's the outlay likely to be and how much will it save?
If you have a smart meter you can charge batteries on a smart tariff in my case I use Octopus. I pay 8.5p per kw between 12pm and 4.30am. I have 44kw of batteries and solar Pv. I already had the Pv before the batteries though.
Before the recent price hike my daily average usage was £29 a day. Fortunately I got the batteries just before the cap lifted if I hadnt I guess my usage would be close to £40 a day. My daily usage now averages £9 a day by running on batteries for the majority of the time. The batteries cost me just over £12k but for most peoples usage I would think £5k would cover most of their requirements add 4kw of solar which up here costs approx £3.5k ( not sure what firms charge down there ) but if it's similar the £8.5k should pretty much cut your bill by atleast 70%. This is all guess work as you need to look at your households usage in terms of Kw consumed daily to work out how much battery capacity you need.
As I have said before if anyone wants some unbiased advice just shout no agenda here at all
I had to make a judgement on the number of panels needed and they quoted for the panels and, if wanted, a battery. There will still be a formal consultation, but the initial suggestion is:
Number of panels : 15
Panel brand : Jinko Solar
Inverter Brand : Fox ESS
Battery brand : Fox ESS
Cost : £10,572 (inc VAT) (£7,625 for the panels & £2,947 for the battery)
I just put this here now for reference for anyone thinking about doing this. The current drive ended a couple of weeks ago but I would suspect that, given where this is all going, another drive will be made soon.
Also, in the short-term I can only see electricity prices increasing, but even if they start to fall again in the future there is likely to be more need for electricity as gas is phased out & electric cars become more common.
This is not a job to be left to the private sector.
I am not opposed to any renewable energy, but lets be realistic here, wind and solar power are never going to be enough for a country in Northern Europe with a population fast approaching seventy million.
Mind you, up until now solar panels were probably a waste of money due to the payback time, but given the new cost of electricity they may now be much more viable. Anyone have any idea?