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Post-Match Thread | Charlton Athletic v Cheltenham Town | 11/09/21

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,423
    It's going to be one of those seasons. No point wasting much energy in pre and post match reviews it seems.

    Disappointed in Albie playing such an important position. He just doesnt seem ready for mens football. Watson was giving him tips when to use instep and laces for free kicks. Expected more from experienced players in Matthews, Famewo, Gunter. 

  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,792
    Southbank said:
    Does not look as if we can play DJ and Kirk in the same 11.
    Would go with Arter Morgan Lee and Washington in midfield, with Leko and Stockley up front.
    And I miss Pratley.
    Ideally, don’t want Morgan anywhere near the first team! 

    Best team would be (IMO)

    mac 
    matthews innis famewo/lavelle souare
    DJ/CBT  arter  lee  leko/Washington
       Stockley leko/Washington 


    however we all know that won’t happen, need a striker in ASAP 
  • Still not gonna change my tune from the last couple of months.

    We are shite league one on the pitch.
    Signing shite league one and panicking in the last week of the window.
    Behaving like shite league one off pitch.
    Running ourselves like shite league one as a business.

    Thats kinda it really. Not much more to say.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,080
    Losing at home, Cheltenham, in the league is a sign of how far we’ve fallen. Sounds depressing. 
  • Cut to the chase Adkins OUT
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,027
    Also agree that Famewo is poor. He’s built his reputation off the first 10 games last season and been really poor since. Thought Lavelle looked much better than him. 
  • Stewart
    Stewart Posts: 2,452
    Players deservedly booed off at half time and full time. 
    Really don’t like Nigel.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,403

  • Adkins isn’t the man, we need a young guy with more than one negative formation in his armoury.

    6 games in and arter, Leko, left back, not for to start, henderson the experienced back up keeper on the bench!!

    we’ve left it to late

    #teamgolfie 
  • To be clear their centre forward Alfie May ran us ragged (Famewo is very poor, anyone disputing this ain't watching) and he  played for Vickers in Crayford and for Erith and Belvedere.  This is a Low (as Blur said).

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_May



    His brother works with me. Good Temple Hill lads. 

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,423
    I sat in the West stand today and have to say the noise from North was excellent. 

    Our team even managed to cockup taking the knee. In hindsight, they couldn't work out their knee from hip or ankle from before the whistle.
  • I dont think we reached Bag of Shite levels
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,751
    Crossing hopeful balls into the area is just not a way to win matches, time and time again we lose to teams who can pass a ball into space in the box and score goals with ease.
  • The only tiny slivers of optimism from today are that MacGilivray showed we've got nothing to worry about with him by making some good saves to stop it being embarrassing, that Lavelle slotted in reasonably well, and that Lee showed glimpses of being a class above (only glimpses, mind).

    The rest was utter dross. Morgan and Watson should never be seen as a pairing again, and once Arter's up to speed and we have Gilbey back hopefully they won't be. Neither of them were terrible, but they're too similar to work together. Stockley got a bit of a raw deal from the referee, but he missed the one real chance he had and was visibly exhausted, which is a problem when we have no real alternative on the bench. DJ and Kirk produced the square root of bugger all between them, and we need to work out fast how to make the most of the undoubted talent they have.

    What's worse is that Cheltenham were comfortable – other than the goal there were no major scares, they were very good at clearing the ball and playing it away to relieve the pressure and start counterattacks, and they should have had two or three more. 2-1 was the very least they deserved. Duff clearly knows how to get the best out of his players. Adkins now needs to prove that he can do the same, otherwise we're going nowhere. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,798
    I dont think we reached Bag of Shite levels
    There’s always next week 
  • seth plum said:
    We are now ten points behind target.
    TEN.
    That means winning all games at home and five away whilst drawing the rest.
    Not going to happen. I think the choice now is either a relegation battle or mid table obscurity.
    Yet Nigel talks such a good outlook. Surely worth keeping...........? Talk the talk, and you can blag a career post Thatcher. 
    Page 5 - 5 of the worst fouls in football history
    Are all Thatchers wankers?
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,131
    Can’t wait to see what positives Adkins can derive from that pile of shit. The match against Crewe, he changed the tactics and went 442. Today, we revert back to 433 and it’s back to square one. Someone needs to tell him we haven’t got the players to go 433. I don’t get what he sees in Morgan. Him and Watson we’re liabilities in that first half. No one played a good game today apart from McGillivray who kept us in the match. Very disappointing considering the players we brought in over the transfer window. Finally, We’ll played Cheltenham. A fully deserved victory despite the time wasting. 
  • PWR

    Embarrassing hearing the bottom of League One read out on Five Live Sport. Just simply embarrassing and it's not good enough.

    We are like the Arsenal of League One. Small mercy that we don't have fans moaning on five live. Arteta = Adkins ?
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,533
    I dont think we reached Bag of Shite levels
    More a pebble dashed toilet pan than a neatly packaged bag
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,415
    edited September 2021
    Adkins didn't derive positives. He was fuming. He said first half, the players did nothing they had worked on in training. Didn't follow defensive or attacking plans. Just played as a bunch of individuals. 

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  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    This where I think this long term / money ball bollocks approach just isn’t cut out for a team trying battle of a league like this. It’s all well good and buying youngsters like Kirk and DJ with the idea of developing them over time to grow within the club but in the short term they are no better than the young home grown players we have ourselves. I really think we missed a trick not pushing the boat out and trying get one or two off the shelf ready to go league one players like Fraser who we clearly couldn’t compete with the likes of Wigan for.
  • Not going to specifically mention a player after today as collectively it was unacceptable from them all. That first half was tough to watch and even now I can’t work out what the game plan from the 1st minute was.

    Too many mistakes and way too many long balls. Almost all long balls went to a Cheltenham player anyway, as did majority of 50/50 balls. 

    Feel rather defeated by that performance. Recently made redundant and was a big deal to commit money for game and day out today. Was not worth it in the slightest, especially now spending less on other things for the next week to pay for it. 

    Will leave it with one positive as the play from Washington and finish by Leko was a joy to watch right in front of my seat. 
  • I think if Adkins doesn’t get a win at Wycombe or Gillingham he’ll be on borrowed time.
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited September 2021
    I’ve seen some shite in my time at the valley but that first half was one of the worse I’ve seen.

    Also, why was people (a large amount) clapping Cheltenham players off the pitch at full time… embarrassing! 
  • Why do we attract managers obsessed with playing one up front ? 
    This bloke is no better than Robinson, who came in for a lot more stick.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,217
    I mean I don’t even wanna spark this debate again but they managed to fuck taking the knee up this lot, shambles.
  • Maybe we got rid of the wrong one out of Bowyer and Gallen. 

    Has there been a single signing that has paid off? MacGillivray is the only one I could point to that looks a good player. 
    Well it's not just Gallen is it ? There are four people involved in recruitment & they all have to agree on a player, maybe this is where the problem is ?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,016
    edited September 2021
    Could do a lot worse than Curbs and Morts 
    Really good post game analysis.
    Think Adkins will sort it but no more Stockley up top alone and no more of Watson or Morgan at all.
    Soure in for Gunter. Arter and Dobson in the middle. Washington with Stockley. 


  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,016
    edited September 2021
    Chunes said:
    Adkins didn't derive positives. He was fuming. He said first half, the players did nothing they had worked on in training. Didn't follow defensive or attacking plans. Just played as a bunch of individuals. 
    Yep that’s the most pissed off he’s been post match I think