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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Alcaraz wins the first set 6-4.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Alcaraz wins 6-4 6-3 and will face Nadal in the semi final.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Ashleigh Barty has announced her retirement from tennis at the grand old age of 25. 


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Chizz said:
    Ashleigh Barty has announced her retirement from tennis at the grand old age of 25. 


    A major loss to the women's game that. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,223
    Be interesting to see what she's got lined up.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    iaitch said:
    Be interesting to see what she's got lined up.

    Returning to play cricket?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    edited March 2022
    iaitch said:
    Be interesting to see what she's got lined up.

    Returning to play cricket?
    Look like Barty wants to play a third sport at the highest level. Golf. Don't you just hate those sports people that are good at everything!!!
  • iaitch said:
    Be interesting to see what she's got lined up.

    Returning to play cricket?
    Look like Barty wants to play a third sport at the highest level. Golf. Don't you just hate those sports people that are good at everything!!!
    Surely she could retire from tennis in her 30's and still forge a career in golf?

    Retiring from tennis at 25, when she's at the very top of the women's game seems very strange to me 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    iaitch said:
    Be interesting to see what she's got lined up.

    Returning to play cricket?
    Look like Barty wants to play a third sport at the highest level. Golf. Don't you just hate those sports people that are good at everything!!!
    Surely she could retire from tennis in her 30's and still forge a career in golf?

    Retiring from tennis at 25, when she's at the very top of the women's game seems very strange to me 
    That is the point though. She isn't driven by money. She's driven by getting to the very top. Yes she could go on and win more grand slam events but, in the same way, as she played cricket at the very top, she's done so with tennis. Retiring at 25 to potentially play golf gives her longer to hone the skills necessary to do so in golf. Who is to say that should she achieve that by the time she is 30 she doesn't decide to go back to tennis?  Or even play AFL and/or football which she is already keen on. 

    The biggest thing is that she is getting out of the sport on her terms and when she is happiest. When she took her break from tennis to play cricket she said this "I needed some time to refresh mentally more than anything. It became a bit of a slog for me and I wasn't enjoying my tennis as much as I would have liked to." The likes of Federer, Murray, Nadal and Djokovic just can't let go presumably because they still love doing it and all the pressures that playing it at that level brings. Barty doesn't and recognises that fact and I, for one, commend her for retiring because t's a hell of a lot harder to walk away than it is to stay.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    iaitch said:
    Be interesting to see what she's got lined up.

    Returning to play cricket?
    Look like Barty wants to play a third sport at the highest level. Golf. Don't you just hate those sports people that are good at everything!!!
    could be golf .. Tiger Woods reportedly admired her swing .. also, she gets married later this year .. praps motherhood beckons
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  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,441
    edited March 2022
    Murray up to 81 in live ATP ranking after 1st round victory in Miami Open. Faces Medvedev next  :/


  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    edited March 2022
    Good result for Heather Watson, beat world number 20 Elina Svitolina.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60868473
  • Good result for Heather Watson, beat world number 20 Elina Svitolina.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60868473
    Should help her climb back up the rankings.
  • Raducanu's ranking will drop off a cliff after the US Open - struggling to make an impression. 
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Raducanu's ranking will drop off a cliff after the US Open - struggling to make an impression. 
    But...  before that, she will gain points for any sort of run at French Open
  • Raducanu's ranking will drop off a cliff after the US Open - struggling to make an impression. 
    But...  before that, she will gain points for any sort of run at French Open
    She's gaining ranking points at every tournament at present but her ranking bears no resemblance to her form since the US Open. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/60898459

    Joe Salisbury will become the third British world number one when he ascends to the top of the doubles rankings on 4 April.
    Salisbury will replace Croatia's Mate Pavic after he and compatriot Nikola Mektic lost in the Miami Open last 16.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Raducanu's ranking will drop off a cliff after the US Open - struggling to make an impression. 
    But...  before that, she will gain points for any sort of run at French Open
    She's gaining ranking points at every tournament at present but her ranking bears no resemblance to her form since the US Open. 
    Emma has 2706 rankings points which has her at world number 12 at the moment.

    2000 of those points came from her US Open win.


    With 716 points (assuming she had lost in the US Open 1st round so gained 10 pts rather than 2000), she'd be ranked 92nd in the world.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Raducanu's ranking will drop off a cliff after the US Open - struggling to make an impression. 
    But...  before that, she will gain points for any sort of run at French Open
    She's gaining ranking points at every tournament at present but her ranking bears no resemblance to her form since the US Open. 
    Emma has 2706 rankings points which has her at world number 12 at the moment.

    2000 of those points came from her US Open win.


    With 716 points (assuming she had lost in the US Open 1st round so gained 10 pts rather than 2000), she'd be ranked 92nd in the world.
    She also reached the 4th round of Wimbledon last year, so will have to equal that to avoid dropping points
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited March 2022
    Norrie (10th seed) is through to the round of 16 at Miami where he will face Casper Ruud (6th seed).

    His performance in Miami so far has already increased his world ranking from 12th to 10th as he passes Jannik Sinner and Hubert Hurkacz.

    He could reach as high as world number 8 if he were to make the final.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Norrie unfortunately lost to Ruud. Ruud is having a good tournament. He went on to beat second seed Zverev in the quarter final and faces world no. 103 Cerundolo in the semi final.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited March 2022
    Raducanu's ranking will drop off a cliff after the US Open - struggling to make an impression. 
    But...  before that, she will gain points for any sort of run at French Open
    She's gaining ranking points at every tournament at present but her ranking bears no resemblance to her form since the US Open. 
    Emma has 2706 rankings points which has her at world number 12 at the moment.

    2000 of those points came from her US Open win.


    With 716 points (assuming she had lost in the US Open 1st round so gained 10 pts rather than 2000), she'd be ranked 92nd in the world.
    She also reached the 4th round of Wimbledon last year, so will have to equal that to avoid dropping points
    That 4th round appearance was worth 240 points.

    Assuming she lost in the first round of both majors, her total points (476) from all other tournaments in the last 12 months would have her at world no. 131.

    Very talented - you don't win majors without it obviously. Her goal has to be building some consistency on tour to ensure she doesn't fall too far down the rankings by the end of 2022. Top 50 (1150+ points) by the end of the year would be an excellent achievement.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    4 coaches in a year can’t be good for such a young player.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    edited April 2022
    iainment said:
    4 coaches in a year can’t be good for such a young player.
    But 2 of them were always going to be temporary (still not ideal)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    I think Raducanu is still trying to work out what she wants from a coach - she's only 19 now and her success was probably not based on any understanding of how she actually got there but more from her raw talent, the confidence of youth and a relatively kind draw. To maintain that success she has to develop that understanding and to work with a coach that can identify and help her with any flaws in her game. And she has to be able to have confidence that the coach in question can deliver that.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,781
    I think Raducanu is still trying to work out what she wants from a coach - she's only 19 now and her success was probably not based on any understanding of how she actually got there but more from her raw talent, the confidence of youth and a relatively kind draw. To maintain that success she has to develop that understanding and to work with a coach that can identify and help her with any flaws in her game. And she has to be able to have confidence that the coach in question can deliver that.
    I wish I'd said that.  Oh look, I nearly did.
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    I think Raducanu is still trying to work out what she wants from a coach - she's only 19 now and her success was probably not based on any understanding of how she actually got there but more from her raw talent, the confidence of youth and a relatively kind draw. To maintain that success she has to develop that understanding and to work with a coach that can identify and help her with any flaws in her game. And she has to be able to have confidence that the coach in question can deliver that.
    I wish I'd said that.  Oh look, I nearly did.
    I can’t help thinking that her dad, Ian, is the biggest blockage to her reaching a stable relationship with a trusted coach. He needs to be very careful here as his interference risks bursting the bubble. Yes, she’s only 19 still but the constant changes to the direction of travel can’t be helpful. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    We say only 19 - but in the women’s game that isn’t actually THAT young.

    Next year is a big year for her - let’s be honest she could never be win another game and she will still forever be a grand slam winner. But I do think after the next 12 months there will be a much better idea if that was a one off or a sign of what’s to come.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    We say only 19 - but in the women’s game that isn’t actually THAT young.

    Next year is a big year for her - let’s be honest she could never be win another game and she will still forever be a grand slam winner. But I do think after the next 12 months there will be a much better idea if that was a one off or a sign of what’s to come.
    She's a far less experienced 19 year old than many of the other players her age, because she concentrated on her studies and had a "relatively" normal childhood, rather than devoting everything to tennis aged 14

    Never having played on clay until last week is a sign of this, she still has plenty of room to develop
  • Three British players - Norrie, Evans, Murray - in the last 16 of the Madrid Open. Pretty impressive.