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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Evans will play his second round tomorrow by the looks of it.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Evans today, looks like a 50/50 , but Evans with age and experience. I think he might lose today
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Meanwhile, Norrie wins in straight sets 6-3 6-4 6-3. Karen Khachanov of Russia (21st seed) awaits in round three.

    If Norrie wins, it would be his first ever 4th round appearance in a Grand Slam.
    Feels weird that a player can make the top 10 without getting past the 3rd round in any Slam!
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Evans today, looks like a 50/50 , but Evans with age and experience. I think he might lose today
    Yep i was correct Evans lost, Norrie later with a potential tricky game 3-2 record in his favour, could be a close one. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    Norrie not going well. Is he carrying a leg injury?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Norrie loses in four sets 2-6 5-7 6-4 4-6. Still yet to make the fourth round of a Grand Slam.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited June 2022
    Andy Murray is into the semi finals of the Surbiton Trophy where he is playing as number 1 seed (his ranking now sits at world number 67). Dan Evans won this event when it was last played in 2019.

    Murray won his first three matches without dropping a set and now faces Denis Kudla (7th seed, world number 81) in his semi final.

    The other semi final will be between Jordan Thompson (8th seed, world number 82) and either Otto Virtanen (qualifier, world number 375) or Ryan Peniston (Brit wildcard, world number 195).
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Kudla beat Murray in 3 sets yesterday.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    Raducanu pulled out injured in her Nottingham match. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Raducanu pulled out injured in her Nottingham match. 
    Completely Charltonised since her US win. 
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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    I can’t help but get the feeling Raducanu is going to struggle to fulfil the expectations on her.

    Just a gut feel but something isn’t right. 
  • I can’t help but get the feeling Raducanu is going to struggle to fulfil the expectations on her.

    Just a gut feel but something isn’t right. 
    The expectations are probably utterly unrealistic.
    It would be crass and wrong to say she fluked her US Open win but I think fair to mention she had no real pressure or weight of expectation going into it.
    To win a slam before she has barely started on the WTA tour has given her instant fame, an immediate high ranking and all the attendant pressure going forward.
    She is really still only finding her way and just starting to adjust mentally and physically.
    When we get past this year's US open her ranking will probably plummet ( assuming she doesn't pull off a back to back miracle).
    She just needs to readjust, find some form and fitness and start gutsing her way back into contention.
    She may never win another slam even if she gets back to the top echelons, but I am sure she has enough basic talent to get back into the later stages of tournaments regularly in the future
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Think she needs to look at Coco Gauff’s trajectory and learn some lessons from that.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,846

    Does she need to learn the difference between hurt and injured. ? 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,284
    MrOneLung said:

    Does she need to learn the difference between hurt and injured. ? 
    Agree, she may have developed a psychological problem of thinking she’s injured, a bit like a child trying to get out of p.e. but may be her way of coping with the pressure, remember the stomach cramps when she first made an impact at Wimbledon and had real expectations placed on her.
  • Think she needs to look at Coco Gauff’s trajectory and learn some lessons from that.
    That was probably the original career plan.
    But you could ask how much Coco's measured progress, incremental improvement and mental stability might have been skewed by winning an early,  unexpected and "premature" slam ?
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,808
    I can’t help but get the feeling Raducanu is going to struggle to fulfil the expectations on her.

    Just a gut feel but something isn’t right. 
    Very early days yet.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    She needs to sort herself out physically, as clearly her body can't cope with the strains of playing on the tour. A programme to build up her strength and conditioning.

    I'm sure Andy Murray can help her, by showing her the level of work it took to get himself battle hardened
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited June 2022
    Murray beats Tsitsipas (no.1 seed and world number 5) in straight sets in Stuttgart. His first top five win since 2016.


    Currently up to world no. 53. If he can beat Fucsovics or Kyrgios in the semi final, he’s inside the top 50. If he wins the tournament, he’ll be top 40.

    With this and then Queens still to come, with a good couple of weeks, he *could* be seeded at Wimbledon.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Murray beats Tsitsipas (no.1 seed and world number 5) in straight sets in Stuttgart. His first top five win since 2016.
    Murray beats Tsitsipas (no.1 seed and world number 5) in straight sets in Stuttgart. His first top five win since 2016.
    Love it, so much in fact i've quoted it twice. Well done Murray! 
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  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Murray beats Tsitsipas (no.1 seed and world number 5) in straight sets in Stuttgart. His first top five win since 2016.
    That's a very good result
  • Fabulous victory for Murray.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Genuinely think he's got a bit of a chance of having a run at Wimbledon this year given who is missing.

    Don't expect him to challenge for the title or anything but maybe the 2nd week.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Genuinely think he's got a bit of a chance of having a run at Wimbledon this year given who is missing.

    Don't expect him to challenge for the title or anything but maybe the 2nd week.
    On his day, tennis wise, he can give anyone a game still but physically and athletically he no longer appears to have the ability to play day in day out throughout a tournament.

    Last week for example he lost to Denis Kudla in the semi final of the Surbiton Trophy largely because he ran out of gas physically. Won the first set but Kudla fought back and Andy, unlike a few years back, couldn't ride his good streak and come back again himself. Part of that could well be that he'd played 3 or more matches previously that week. For the first time since his hip op I believe.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    LenGlover said:
    Genuinely think he's got a bit of a chance of having a run at Wimbledon this year given who is missing.

    Don't expect him to challenge for the title or anything but maybe the 2nd week.
    On his day, tennis wise, he can give anyone a game still but physically and athletically he no longer appears to have the ability to play day in day out throughout a tournament.

    Last week for example he lost to Denis Kudla in the semi final of the Surbiton Trophy largely because he ran out of gas physically. Won the first set but Kudla fought back and Andy, unlike a few years back, couldn't ride his good streak and come back again himself. Part of that could well be that he'd played 3 or more matches previously that week. For the first time since his hip op I believe.
    I agree, that the concern is producing a string of performances, as big wins seem to take it out of his body
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Playing 5 set matches at Wimbledon isn't going to help either. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,441
    edited June 2022
    For Murray to get back to this level of performance after his op is pretty  incredible. Great determination.

    Up to 53 in live ATP rankings.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Well done Muzza! Beat Kyrgios in the semi final today.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Would be brilliant if he could win it (obviously).  Berettini has been out for a while too so Murray has a decent chance.
  • Murray up to 47 in the live ATP rankings.