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Post-match Thread: Charlton v Saints U21 Pap Trophy: Tuesday 5 October 2021
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A convincing Charlton side run rampant over Southampton’s young squad, particularly in the first half. An enjoyable display all round, even if we weren’t quite as dominant in the second half. If we’re being picky, the clean sheet remains elusive (despite Harness playing particularly well).
More minutes for key players in the squad, as well as a good result to build confidence.
Over to you.
Charlton 4 Southampton 1
More minutes for key players in the squad, as well as a good result to build confidence.
Over to you.
Charlton 4 Southampton 1
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Quiet enjoying these Papa John’s games. Nice to watch Charlton without the stress levels the league brings.
Lots of positives for me from that game, though slightly concerned that again we came out for a second half and looked off the pace.12 -
And Adkins subbed a tired midfield (just) in time. Feels like we might be turning a corner - but fitness of the midfield still a worry.2
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Saw it on twitter so cant claim it... In short that was a Pizza cake!!3
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Harness impressive and a couple of lovely kicks to set off attacks, and of course a very good penalty save.
We need to sign Taylor on a long contract ASAP.
Purrington could have had a hat trick! Thought he was very good tonight.3 -
FA straight up handing Stockley 10 in Player Marks like it's sodding Christmas7
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I missed the stream as suspected didnt get back in time but I dont get a the negative stuff around this competition at the end of the day we have a decent sized squad now and players need to play. Winning is a good habit to get into and if I was NA I would be trying to get as far as possible in this cup. Not as if our trophy room is bulging is it ?13
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Men against boys in the first half when we were very good, although it was a much flatter performance from Charlton in the second, with the structure of the team looking loose, particularly in midfield. Fitness levels do appear to be a problem.
Harness did very well when called upon, with a fine penalty save, generally dominating his area and some very good distribution. Purrington was pretty solid and chipped in with a goal and an assist, as well as hitting the woodwork. The three other defenders all looked a bit wobbly at times. If I was Elerewe’s agent, I wouldn’t be too aggressive in the contractual negotiations.
Morgan was the pick of the midfielders, although Dobson also played some very good cross field balls to switch play. There was a lot of space for Southampton to operate in during the second half, although Dempsey helped to shore things up a bit when he came on. Clare did ok, although given that Robinson tried to convert him to a right back at Oxford, I wondered whether he might be able to do a job for us there, given the problems we have with Matthews and Gunter.
Kirk had a relatively quiet game, whilst DJ blew hot and cold as usual - very frustrating. CBT showed them both how it’s done when he came on towards the end, whilst Stockley’s two (nearly three) goals will do him no harm whatsoever.
All in all, a reasonable and stress-free evening’s entertainment, although 4-1 probably flattered us in the end (not that it matters a jot).
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A good attacking performance that, combined with a frustrating dip in energy in the second half, until we brought on CBT and Dempsey
Harness, Purrington, Dobson and Morgan were the standouts to me, with CBT making a brilliant sub appearance
Harness makes me wonder why we needed Henderson. Some great distribution as well as some good saves
Purrington was solid and a real threat in the opposition penalty box, and linking well with Kirk.
Dobson really surprised me with his passing, some really nice cross field balls
Morgan players some great forward passes all match, and had a second wind when CBT came on, as the two of them linked up superbly. He's not a No 10 floating around the box like Lee, but is a brilliant passer when he has players like CBT willing to run forward.
DJ was frustrating, as there wasn't enough end product. He gets the ball in dangerous positions, but then dawdles on the ball instead of getting the cross in straight away.2 -
I am concerned about Kirk. Despite his slight improvement on Saturday tonight he was anonymous again. Does not have pace, cannot beat a man, missed a great chance (again) and does not cross.
What exactly is he supposed to be that we spent money on him?
If CBT leaves at Xmas I would be very worried that our wingers would be Kirk and DJ, who does have attacking skill but also terrible decision making.1 - Sponsored links:
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Another enjoyable cup outing (am I watching our Addicks?). Good run out for many, some quality football and enjoyed Dobson’s and Morgan’s contributions particularly. Let’s hope this form continues Saturday week!0
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There's one hell of a player in Dobson, but this player seems to not like it when big horrible League One teams do big horrible things to him. Maybe our patience will be rewarded3
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I agree @AndyG ....... it's not a priority but very useful to get competitive games into squad fringe players.AndyG said:I missed the stream as suspected didnt get back in time but I dont get a the negative stuff around this competition at the end of the day we have a decent sized squad now and players need to play. Winning is a good habit to get into and if I was NA I would be trying to get as far as possible in this cup. Not as if our trophy room is bulging is it ?
Let's take it seriously. As you say, winning is a good habit and it keeps squad morale high.
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Notice how he appeared to get worse as Clare tired then improved when Dempsey replaced him.Leuth said:There's one hell of a player in Dobson, but this player seems to not like it when big horrible League One teams do big horrible things to him. Maybe our patience will be rewarded
He can't do the defensive duties of two players, he shouldn't have to. I have concerns over Clare's fitness.4 -
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CBT produced more in 15 minutes than kirk of dj managed all night - like dobson, would like to see him getting another chance in a proper game - like claire as a utility man , can do without morgan, matthews and pearce - purrington played well - silly competition but decided it was gonna be more entertaining than watching tv , and it was2
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Enjoyable match. MOM Harness.0
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Still don't like their pizzas.1
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a lot of our squad seem to lack staminaDazzler21 said:
Notice how he appeared to get worse as Clare tired then improved when Dempsey replaced him.Leuth said:There's one hell of a player in Dobson, but this player seems to not like it when big horrible League One teams do big horrible things to him. Maybe our patience will be rewarded
He can't do the defensive duties of two players, he shouldn't have to. I have concerns over Clare's fitness.0 -
Really pleased for Stockley. Ive never been a fan tbh but strikers need confidence and they get it from scoring goals. ANY goals in any competition. I hope the Fleetwood and this game will mark the turning point in our season and NA's fortunes.
I've noticed the nicely nicely drivel of Adkins is catching. Scotty on Charlton TV seemed to avoid asking any pressing questions after the Bolton drivel and instead focussed on "the decent 20 minutes" in the first half. Even Curbs was joining in the love in.
We are way below the standards we should be reaching every week. This should be what is zoned in on not some good throw in or a random nutmeg. It's really pathetic.
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Have attended both of the Papa Johns games this season and enjoyed them.I actually would like to see us have a go at this competition if we can. Why not?11
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Agreed, silverware is silverware.cafctom said:Have attended both of the Papa Johns games this season and enjoyed them.I actually would like to see us have a go at this competition if we can. Why not?
I dont mind the competition & like people have said winning breeds confidence and thats only a good thing.2 -
Other than Villa, all the U21 sides lost tonight - Soton, Liverpool, Wolves, Leicester, Newcastle
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Stockley is an interesting one, in my opinion he's our best striker but we do seem to play dreadfull, ineffective hoofball when he starts. Can he and Davison play in the same team?2
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This season we have the sort of squad depth, where we have players needing to play, rather than players needing to be rested!cafctom said:Have attended both of the Papa Johns games this season and enjoyed them.I actually would like to see us have a go at this competition if we can. Why not?9 -
Because it's an embarrassing competition to be involved in.cafctom said:Have attended both of the Papa Johns games this season and enjoyed them.I actually would like to see us have a go at this competition if we can. Why not?
I would rather we had a go at the FA Cup and League Cup rather than always saying that we have to 'concentrate on the league.'
Having said that, I'm glad those that attended enjoyed it and if it's good practise for our reserves then that's a good thing.
I just don't want to see us getting excited about it even if we win the dumb thing because it is totally of no value.5 -
But which could we actually win with a league one side.jimmymelrose said:
Because it's an embarrassing competition to be involved in.cafctom said:Have attended both of the Papa Johns games this season and enjoyed them.I actually would like to see us have a go at this competition if we can. Why not?
I would rather we had a go at the FA Cup and League Cup rather than always saying that we have to 'concentrate on the league.'
Having said that, I'm glad those that attended enjoyed it and if it's good practise for our reserves then that's a good thing.
I just don't want to see us getting excited about it even if we win the dumb thing because it is totally of no value.4 -
Harness, Dobson, Stockley and CBT all impressive.
Think I'm done with Matthews now. Only a couple of months or so ago I said he was one of the few who could cut it in the championship after his last showing there. Isn't learning from mistakes or just doesn't care for some reason.3 -
The Matthews that finished at Sunderland seems to have turned up this season. We know that the issue is not easy to resolve as his replacement is equally inept.
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Do they have a vegan option?BrentfordAddick said:Still don't like their pizzas.1
