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The Ashes 2021/22

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  • Chizz said:
    Leuth said:
    Buttler and Crawley to open in the next game, Lawrence and Bairstow in at 6 and 7 (with Bairstow keeping) imo
    Pope's done enough to be sure of his place in your view? 
    No, he is dropped AF
  • Is Foakes even in Australia now? Very few of the A squad stayed on
    no, they've been sent home, there's a few that have stayed on and a couple who are playing in the big bash.
  • Today marked the 4,000th day since we won a Test match in Australia. Makes you wonder how an idiot such as moi could think we might draw the series 2-2!!!
  • 5-0 and try and forget about it till next summer!

    What Ashes?
  • Leuth said:
    Chizz said:
    Leuth said:
    Buttler and Crawley to open in the next game, Lawrence and Bairstow in at 6 and 7 (with Bairstow keeping) imo
    Pope's done enough to be sure of his place in your view? 
    No, he is dropped AF
    And rightly so. I said I had high hopes that this would be his breakthrough series as the conditions here suit his game but it seems mentally he doesn't have his head right in terms of being able to start an innings at this level.

    Needs to go away and reassess.
  • Is Livingstone in Aus? Could he bat 7 (Foakes 8) to be our spinning allrounder?
  • As an addendum, Geraint Jones' Test career ended with an ignominious pair in Australia, and I'll bet we were one piece of competency from Carey away from Buttler doing the same. This innings has bought him one more game and no more as far as I'm concerned 
  • Is Livingstone in Aus? Could he bat 7 (Foakes 8) to be our spinning allrounder?
    nope, him and roy didnt fancy the quarantine i think. 
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  • https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ricky-ponting-slams-joe-root-captaincy-tactics-influence-bowlers-broad-anderson-adelaide-ashes/2021-12-21

    Some interesting comments on England from Ricky Ponting, especially concerning Root's captaincy and him not being able to make the bowlers bowl fuller
  • England coach Chris Silverwood says he would pick the same two teams again despite the tourists going 2-0 down in the Ashes against Australia.

    The choice of bowling attack in each match has been questioned by many pundits and commentators.

    "There is always going to be divided opinion," Silverwood told BBC Sport.

    "You pick a team and not everybody's going to agree with you."

    When asked by BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew if he would pick the same starting sides for the two Tests again, Silverwood said: "To be honest, I would."

    "I was happy with the skillset we had in the pink-ball Test, so I would pick the same team again," added Silverwood.

  • England coach Chris Silverwood says he would pick the same two teams again despite the tourists going 2-0 down in the Ashes against Australia.

    The choice of bowling attack in each match has been questioned by many pundits and commentators.

    "There is always going to be divided opinion," Silverwood told BBC Sport.

    "You pick a team and not everybody's going to agree with you."

    When asked by BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew if he would pick the same starting sides for the two Tests again, Silverwood said: "To be honest, I would."

    "I was happy with the skillset we had in the pink-ball Test, so I would pick the same team again," added Silverwood.

    well, therein lies the problem.
  • Its smoke and mirrors, he can't seem like he is questioning himself or throwing the players under a bus not publicly anyway but it was clear to anyone who knows a tiny bit about test cricket that Broad and Anderson should have played at the GABA, and a spinner that isn't also the best batsman, one of the best fielders and the captain should have been picked for the last test. 

    No way should Buttler be keeping, test wicket keepers don't put down the chances he has and besides that Foakes is by miles the better keeper. 


  • edited December 2021
    Sad day as Bumble announces his retirement from commentating. Hope we will still get the odd cameo from him. And knowing him it will be odd!
  • England coach Chris Silverwood says he would pick the same two teams again despite the tourists going 2-0 down in the Ashes against Australia.

    The choice of bowling attack in each match has been questioned by many pundits and commentators.

    "There is always going to be divided opinion," Silverwood told BBC Sport.

    "You pick a team and not everybody's going to agree with you."

    When asked by BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew if he would pick the same starting sides for the two Tests again, Silverwood said: "To be honest, I would."

    "I was happy with the skillset we had in the pink-ball Test, so I would pick the same team again," added Silverwood.

    well, therein lies the problem.
    That's put it far more calmly than I'm able to.
    Even the cash obsessed dunces at ECB have to understand that is a resignation quote from Spoons, don't they?  To paraphrase "yeah we got humiliated, were never close to competing but I know best and I'd do it the same again, cos, y'know, I'm right"

    He and Captain Cretin make a right pair.  Root thinks he's throwing his bowlers under the bus "shoulda pitched it up, etc" Joe you utter tool you're the captain, you tell em what the plan is, you set the field, if they bowl half track filth, You hook em and put someone else on, cos You're in charge on the field.  No such criticism for negligent no balling, witless batters or village fielding, sounds more and more like he's forgotten even the tiny amount he's ever learned about cricket.
  • https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ricky-ponting-slams-joe-root-captaincy-tactics-influence-bowlers-broad-anderson-adelaide-ashes/2021-12-21

    Some interesting comments on England from Ricky Ponting, especially concerning Root's captaincy and him not being able to make the bowlers bowl fuller
    very good point by ponting that our best period in the field came when root was off the pitch... coincidence? 
  • WTF did Root bat in the nets without a box ... is that confirmed (i may have missed it if on this thread ) that's complete madness
    Agreed, what a load of bollocks
  • edited December 2021
    Root has lost the confidence of his players .. old hands like Anderson and Broad will do as they please and Root's only comeback is to whinge at the pundits after the game .. Stokes should be appointed NOW .. we all know what a hard and uncompromising man he is both as a cricketer and in 'real life' .. players will respond to him because he is a terrific cricketer and because he might chin them if they did not do as told .. previous star all rounders Flintoff and Botham have been very poor captains, Stokes is cut from harder and tougher material than those two.
    Back to the Silverwood/Giles issue. It shows the fucked up situation within English professional cricket that these two lame yes men and time servers have got to the management pinnacle. And Joe Root ?, lovely guy, terrific batsman, BUT his inadequacy as a captain and leader has been obvious for a long time.
     Central contracts and the loss of money IF a player is relegated from the chosen few means that the necessary changes to the test squad are not made when they are required. It is hard to see an old comrade lose out on a huge salary even if he is past it or is no longer capable of maintaining the high standards needed for what is a demanding cricket format.
    The Australians are lucky, a super climate, a heavily sporting culture and the drive and ambition of the cricket authorities as well as the very competitive nature of Australian society all combine to produce outstanding  sports people in many disciplines. The dearth of opportunity, except perhaps in football and the poor facilities in England for cricket, make the development of young players very difficult. All in all, a major overhaul of English cricket is required 
  • England coach Chris Silverwood says he would pick the same two teams again despite the tourists going 2-0 down in the Ashes against Australia.

    The choice of bowling attack in each match has been questioned by many pundits and commentators.

    "There is always going to be divided opinion," Silverwood told BBC Sport.

    "You pick a team and not everybody's going to agree with you."

    When asked by BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew if he would pick the same starting sides for the two Tests again, Silverwood said: "To be honest, I would."

    "I was happy with the skillset we had in the pink-ball Test, so I would pick the same team again," added Silverwood.

    Is he just stubborn or stupid..?
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  • Sensei said:

    England coach Chris Silverwood says he would pick the same two teams again despite the tourists going 2-0 down in the Ashes against Australia.

    The choice of bowling attack in each match has been questioned by many pundits and commentators.

    "There is always going to be divided opinion," Silverwood told BBC Sport.

    "You pick a team and not everybody's going to agree with you."

    When asked by BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew if he would pick the same starting sides for the two Tests again, Silverwood said: "To be honest, I would."

    "I was happy with the skillset we had in the pink-ball Test, so I would pick the same team again," added Silverwood.

    Is he just stubborn or stupid..?
    Apart from the batting, bowling and fielding I make him right.
  • I hadn't realised that there are FOUR Aussies in the top 10 batsmen rankings. Especially surprised by Travis Head being up there


  • Given out total lack of success currently, it is difficult to comprehend one bowler taking all 10 wickets in an innings (and 14 in the match) as Ajaz Patel did recently. It's even more difficult to understand how the achiever of that feat can be left out of the very next series. But that is what has happened to Patel as NZ have named Rachin Ravindra and Daryl Mitchell in their 13 man squad to play Bangladesh.

    To think, 10 wickets in total in our five Test series would probably be sufficient to stay in our squad!
  • Given out total lack of success currently, it is difficult to comprehend one bowler taking all 10 wickets in an innings (and 14 in the match) as Ajaz Patel did recently. It's even more difficult to understand how the achiever of that feat can be left out of the very next series. But that is what has happened to Patel as NZ have named Rachin Ravindra and Daryl Mitchell in their 13 man squad to play Bangladesh.

    To think, 10 wickets in total in our five Test series would probably be sufficient to stay in our squad!
    You have to assume they'll be playing Bangladesh on the Kiwi equivalent of green Headingley or Durham pitches in June!
  • Crawley in for Burns
    Bairstow in for Pope 
    Wood in for Woakes 
    Leach in for one of Broad/Anderson 

    That's what one article I read earlier was predicting. I reckon that's about right 
  • I agree mostly with that. The one reservation I have is, the replaced players had no warmups. Burns at least looked as though he was improving in each innings.  Now you’ll get another opener who has had no match practice. Cue Crawley getting out for a duck.  
    Leach is going to get dismantled again. The other two I am all for. 
  • Crawley in for Burns
    Bairstow in for Pope 
    Wood in for Woakes 
    Leach in for one of Broad/Anderson 

    That's what one article I read earlier was predicting. I reckon that's about right 

    Agree though it is ironic that the bowler who has scored more runs for England than Hameed, Pope, Buttler, Stokes and Burns is dropped because he's a bowler. Robinson/Leach/Wood and Anderson is no Moeen/Woakes/Broad and Anderson. What it does mean is that at least four of our top seven have to get a decent score and by that I don't mean defiant or even pretty 30.

    Will they move Malan to open? He has done a very good job at 3 but, let's face it, when you've been one down on 0, 4, 7 and 23 it is virtually the same as opening. The other benefit of doing that is that it retains a left/right combination.


  • Seb's in the same hotel in Melbourne as Ian Botham. His security stops any selfies because of the risk of Covid and that's quite sensible although Botham apparently was gutted that he was prevented from getting one.
    I'm not sure I want to see any more photos Botham has taken of himself, after the last one.
  • Hazlewood will miss the 3rd test, Cummins is back and Harris keeps his place despite being the biggest failure (so far) amongst the 'specialist batsmen' from either side .. Starc is also due to play

    The England T20 side selected for the tour of the West Indies in January looks a stronger outfit than that selected for the Ashes lol .. 

    Squad: Eoin Morgan (Middlesex - captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Tom Banton (Somerset), Sam Billings (Kent), Liam Dawson (Hampshire), George Garton (Sussex), Chris Jordan (Surrey), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Saqib Mahmood (Lancashire), Tymal Mills (Sussex), David Payne (Gloucestershire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Phil Salt (Lancashire), Reece Topley (Surrey), James Vince (Hampshire).
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