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  • Come on. Our owner lives an 11 hour flight from London and has seen his expectations for his first year of ownership take quite a knock. He’s on his third manager and just seen the worst start to a league campaign ever. He’s comments that he needs a bit closer control to ensure things are getting done as instructed is very telling. He can’t devote weeks at a time to seeing how things are being done. Who better than his son, a vested interest to get a handle on what’s not only gone wrong but what’s not getting done. Welcome Martin. 
    Just out of interest, what exactly isn’t getting done?
  • Come on. Our owner lives an 11 hour flight from London and has seen his expectations for his first year of ownership take quite a knock. He’s on his third manager and just seen the worst start to a league campaign ever. He’s comments that he needs a bit closer control to ensure things are getting done as instructed is very telling. He can’t devote weeks at a time to seeing how things are being done. Who better than his son, a vested interest to get a handle on what’s not only gone wrong but what’s not getting done. Welcome Martin. 
    Just out of interest, what exactly isn’t getting done?
    Good question
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    4Real said:
    seth plum said:
    So Keohane has got in early to suck up to the new owner in order to cover up his uselessness.
    Have I got this right?
    No - you're just going on and on about something you want to be correct.
    You could be right.
    I hate Keohane.
    He used to be called Chief Operations Officer.
    Yesterday all the turnstiles weren’t operational.
    I am correct about that.
  • Come on. Our owner lives an 11 hour flight from London and has seen his expectations for his first year of ownership take quite a knock. He’s on his third manager and just seen the worst start to a league campaign ever. He’s comments that he needs a bit closer control to ensure things are getting done as instructed is very telling. He can’t devote weeks at a time to seeing how things are being done. Who better than his son, a vested interest to get a handle on what’s not only gone wrong but what’s not getting done. Welcome Martin. 
    The bonus is that if Martin doesn't do what Thomas asks him to do, Daddy can send his boy to his room without any tea as punishment.

    That'll teach him.
  • He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
  • Chunes said:
    If you make a fella your technical director (eyes and ears) and he don’t tell you, your  managers is a happy clappy twat, that’s failing across the board, for whatever the reasons, then the fella ain’t done his job very well!

    Solution, install someone you trust with your best interest at heart! 

    Then tin tack the fella?
    But who's to say Ged didn't tell him? 

    Didn't TS hang on to Bowyer for far too long as well?

    In fact he never even sacked LB, he left.
    Charlton owner Sandgaard told the South London Press: “We were looking in the first week or two to see [how it worked]. Sometimes when you are this far away, on the other side of the ocean, you feel like no-one ever listens to you and everyone goes about their business – regardless of what I tell them to do.

    Who is he referencing? Adkins Roddy both?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    This is positive I reckon - at the very least it’s sandgaard snr realising he can’t run a London football club day to day from Colorado. Maybe sandgaard jnr might not be very good, but may well be on the path to hiring a decent ceo..
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chunes said:
    If you make a fella your technical director (eyes and ears) and he don’t tell you, your  managers is a happy clappy twat, that’s failing across the board, for whatever the reasons, then the fella ain’t done his job very well!

    Solution, install someone you trust with your best interest at heart! 

    Then tin tack the fella?
    But who's to say Ged didn't tell him? 

    Didn't TS hang on to Bowyer for far too long as well?

    In fact he never even sacked LB, he left.
    Charlton owner Sandgaard told the South London Press: “We were looking in the first week or two to see [how it worked]. Sometimes when you are this far away, on the other side of the ocean, you feel like no-one ever listens to you and everyone goes about their business – regardless of what I tell them to do.

    Who is he referencing? Adkins Roddy both?
    Neither?  It's just guessing. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Noticed he’ll be dealing with exclusively football matters, not the business side.. which along with his “things aren’t being done” comment strikes me as a bit odd..

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  • Cafc43v3r said:

    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
    I did not say that Adkins was Roddys mate in fact I didn't mention Roddy in my post
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,488
    More questions than answers really come from this piece. 

    What is Martin's actual job role? 

    How high up on the ladder is he, is he in charge of anyone? 

    What does Thomas mean when he says that the footballing side didn't listen to him? 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    edited November 2021
    I think we need to stop taking every sentence that is quoted so literally, every single time.

    It’s exhausting. 

    Welcome to the club, Martin.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:

    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
    I did not say that Adkins was Roddys mate in fact I didn't mention Roddy in my post
    You said the person that recommended Adkins.  It's often said, on here, it was Roddy, it wasnt.   Just clearing it up. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:

    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
    I did not say that Adkins was Roddys mate in fact I didn't mention Roddy in my post
    You said the person that recommended Adkins.  It's often said, on here, it was Roddy, it wasnt.   Just clearing it up. 
    so who was it? 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:

    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
    I did not say that Adkins was Roddys mate in fact I didn't mention Roddy in my post
    You said the person that recommended Adkins.  It's often said, on here, it was Roddy, it wasnt.   Just clearing it up. 
    so who was it? 
    I blame @golfaddick, he's the only one to show such positivity in the face of adversity.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:

    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
    I did not say that Adkins was Roddys mate in fact I didn't mention Roddy in my post
    You said the person that recommended Adkins.  It's often said, on here, it was Roddy, it wasnt.   Just clearing it up. 
    so who was it? 
    Maybe he just applied for the job & was (in TS’s opinion) the best candidate?
    Strange I know, doesn’t fit any conspiracy theory 🙄🤷‍♀️
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:

    He is obviously baffled by the turn around in results since Adkins departure. Something must have been very wrong behind the scenes and
    I doubt he has confidence in the person who recommended Adkins
    Adkins was not appointed because he was Roddy's mate.  The same isn't true for the goalkeeping coach....

    Lots of question that should be asked about Roddy but that isn't one of them. 
    I did not say that Adkins was Roddys mate in fact I didn't mention Roddy in my post
    You said the person that recommended Adkins.  It's often said, on here, it was Roddy, it wasnt.   Just clearing it up. 
    so who was it? 
    Maybe he just applied for the job & was (in TS’s opinion) the best candidate?
    Strange I know, doesn’t fit any conspiracy theory 🙄🤷‍♀️
    Someone have recommended Adkins for the job. Who that was is anyone’s guess
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,545
    edited November 2021
    Man, I really need to compile all the Sandgaard era conspiracy theories into a book, there's a lot.


    Clearly, Martin is here to tell JJ what a high press is and instruct on how to pass out from the back. 

    Or, possibly, just a job for a family member to keep Sandgaard capital closer to it's business interest and the appointment made to sound interesting with bollocks about footballing credentials. 


  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Noticed he’ll be dealing with exclusively football matters, not the business side.. which along with his “things aren’t being done” comment strikes me as a bit odd..
    If you look at it from Thomas's point of view: 

    You appoint a manager and finish the season well.  You invest money in players, to play the system that you played last season, including the center forward you probably thought was vital.  You then aquire more, more expensive, players because what you already have isn't working.

    Fast foward 10 weeks (yes the transfer window did only shut that recently) you "star" center foward has been dropped on occasion because the team keep hoofing it to him, your big investment in Kirk (fee and contract) is in a witness protection program, your expensive loan signing isn't getting a game.

    If the answer is as simple as Nigel is a bumbling idiot why did the "transfer committee" keep throwing Thomas's money at it?   It if the answer was two up top why didn't we sign another credible striker?  So many questions. 

    If it was my money I would want to know why, I don't expect anyone to tell us, nor should they BTW. 

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  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,287
    Wasn't bothered until I read the article. Not sure it is over analysing to be somewhat cautious of the owners son somehow now getting involved in the football side. 

    "Reads the game better than anyone".

    "has an amazing understanding of modern football, maybe more than traditional English football.”

    I mean that is just weird and very "Roland".  

    We are finally on a good run, beat Sunderland, Plymouth and drew with Rotherham so not just easy games, yet he has come out and said he is interviewing other managers and now sent his son over.
    No he hasn't "now sent his son over".

    He sent his son over in the first week of JJ's reign. At the point when we were up shit creek without a paddle. What do you want Sandgaard to do? Just keep employing managers and see what happens?

    Sandgaard, as he said when he took over, plans to run Charlton as he has learnt to effectively from Zynex. This means he wants a trusted eye overseeing on the ground and, shock horror, has backup plans in place if the manager situation doesn't work. Worse still, he's keeping the manager on a longer probation period than impatient fans can stand, even though it's obvious JJ won't look for another job if he's offered it in a month's time.

    Lots of drama queens in the charlton fanbase. 
  • We've been shafted enough times to justify the questioning. Not do long ago people were bowing to Southall and thinking we were rich. 

    We don't know what's happening behind the boardroom doors and so the questions will remain. And that's ok. 
  • lonman
    lonman Posts: 254
    edited November 2021
    sammy391 said:
    https://twitter.com/richcawleyslp/status/1462362498024329216?s=21 

    Has some (limited) football experience- sounds as if Sandgaard has learnt to be wary of roddy 
    Cue massive overthinking on this thread. Football owner sends son to oversee things. Don't see the problem. If there is one person TS can trust to give him an honest appraisal of the goings on down at the training ground / club in general is his son. I heard a rumour a few weeks back that this was going to happen. He's been staying at the InterCon at the O2 for the past month, looking to buy somewhere in Greenwich. 

    The positive from this is that he works closely with Jackson, and Jackson feeds back to him what he needs and this goes straight back to his Dad. Rather than it being filtered up through Roddy (The AntiChrist to some on here) and then back to TS.

    The doom n gloom merchants think his son is going to be telling Jackson who to pick and what formation the team should play.

    Oh well can't please everybody. Big Welcome to MS.





  • Do we really have to over analyse everything always?

    I know we’ve been treated really badly for years but all this is getting really exhausting 😫
    Agree. More so because no doubt Cawley has cherrypicked some quotes for his article anyway and without seeing / hearing the whole interview / conversation we can’t appreciate the whole context. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,747
    We've been shafted enough times to justify the questioning. Not do long ago people were bowing to Southall and thinking we were rich. 

    We don't know what's happening behind the boardroom doors and so the questions will remain. And that's ok. 
    Spot on. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    I believe that Ged Roddy isn't happy with the nepotism being shown by Thomas Sandgaard by having Martin Sandgaard in the club.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    I believe that Ged Roddy isn't happy with the nepotism being shown by Thomas Sandgaard by having Martin Sandgaard in the club.
    Is Jacob still with the club?
  • We've been shafted enough times to justify the questioning. Not do long ago people were bowing to Southall and thinking we were rich. 

    We don't know what's happening behind the boardroom doors and so the questions will remain. And that's ok. 
    Spot on. 
    So when, in your honest opinion, will it be ok to actually enjoy some of the small steps we now seem to be taking?

    When the next manager is appointed, so long as it’s JJ or it’s full on meltdown time?

    When we get promoted out of this division?

    When TS sacrifices his first born in the centre circle to prove he really is the real deal?

    When?

    Just so we know 🤔🤷‍♀️🙏🏻
  • We've been shafted enough times to justify the questioning. Not do long ago people were bowing to Southall and thinking we were rich. 

    We don't know what's happening behind the boardroom doors and so the questions will remain. And that's ok. 
    Not all of us did.
    In fact, very few did.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,887
    edited November 2021
    We've been shafted enough times to justify the questioning. Not do long ago people were bowing to Southall and thinking we were rich. 

    We don't know what's happening behind the boardroom doors and so the questions will remain. And that's ok. 
    Spot on. 
    So when, in your honest opinion, will it be ok to actually enjoy some of the small steps we now seem to be taking?

    When the next manager is appointed, so long as it’s JJ or it’s full on meltdown time?

    When we get promoted out of this division?

    When TS sacrifices his first born in the centre circle to prove he really is the real deal?

    When?

    Just so we know 🤔🤷‍♀️🙏🏻

    At least he has got his first born onsite now for that sacrifice ;)