Got a lot of time for Airman and all he has done for the club over the years and 100% believe his intentions are always for the best for the club but he ain't always right that's for sure
Who is? Don’t say yourself!
Well it’s a fact isn’t it it or are u u saying you’ve never got things wrong in the past?
Blimey, Doucher. It was a joke!
Of course it was - just as mine was !
Just re read your post Airman and happy to confirm that I misread it and indeed it was a joke - I got that one completely wrong that’s for sure 😂
So did Thomas essentially say; “my sons never had a real job, I got him a job in marketing for my health electronics company and have paid him to do that for 14-years but luckily enough before that he was the worlds best unknown soccer expert so now I’ve sent him to London to run the footballing side of things at the club”
The lack of clarity regarding Roddy's role and responsibilities could be doing him a disfavour as he could be being blamed for things wrongly. I still think there is no way Sandgaard will be disappointed with Jackson. If he is unhappy with things they have to be from those reporting to him regarding our stressful start, and that is why he has probably got his son involved.
Is it not a possibility that the club was bought so that MS could be involved in something he has an interest in? MS did not make a success as a professional player, apparently due to distance. So TS may want to involve his son's passion in football another way, at the exec level.
Is it not a possibility that the club was bought so that MS could be involved in something he has an interest in? MS did not make a success as a professional player, apparently due to distance. So TS may want to involve his son's passion in football another way, at the exec level.
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The lack of clarity regarding Roddy's role and responsibilities could be doing him a disfavour as he could be being blamed for things wrongly. I still think there is no way Sandgaard will be disappointed with Jackson. If he is unhappy with things they have to be from those reporting to him regarding our stressful start, and that is why he has probably got his son involved.
His role and responsibilities have been quite clear, what hasn't and has created the rumour and innuendo is how much power and influence he has and hasn't got.
The assumption that Adkins is his mate only adds to the narrative that he is the tail wagging the dog.
I thought that it looked like he had sold some sort of master plan to Thomas but the more Thomas speaks the more it sounds like it's actually Thomas's vision or plan.
I think there are some legitimate questions that should be asked of Roddy but I don't think there is some sinister machiavellan plot
I am thinking of Sandgaard commenting on the distances players were covering to what they are now doing being a massive difference. The fact he mentioned it in an interview means he is very likely to be trying to understand why that is. JJ will know why that is and has probably told him and it might be a new answer, given as the old one was probably fitness.
God help me for having to say this but perhaps Mr. Sandgaard and Charlton Athletic could learn something about running a football club by looking at our neighbours Millwall. Their owner is also based and earns his money in the USA and is not always to hand. What John Berylson has done is appoint an experienced CEO in Steve Kavanagh and I notice his son James Berylson is a Director. I don’t think that Berylson has spoken ambitions for Millwall to be regularly playing in Europe any time soon but there’s no question that Millwall are under his model a very well run and club making steady progress.
It's what I & many others have been banging on about for ages, bring in an experienced CEO to oversee things. I really fail to see what good sending a totally inexperienced young man in to be his eyes & ears can do. I feel very uneasy about this.
God help me for having to say this but perhaps Mr. Sandgaard and Charlton Athletic could learn something about running a football club by looking at our neighbours Millwall. Their owner is also based and earns his money in the USA and is not always to hand. What John Berylson has done is appoint an experienced CEO in Steve Kavanagh and I notice his son James Berylson is a Director. I don’t think that Berylson has spoken ambitions for Millwall to be regularly playing in Europe any time soon but there’s no question that Millwall are under his model a very well run and club making steady progress.
It's what I & many others have been banging on about for ages, bring in an experienced CEO to oversee things. I really fail to see what good sending a totally inexperienced young man in to be his eyes & ears can do. I feel very uneasy about this.
How would he know that the CEO he appointed was doing what he wanted and that he was being told the truth? My guess is he would make his son a director to be his eyes and ears. It is what I would do.
The fact is he has not made his son CEO is very relevant don’t you think? He could quite reasonably do that.
But he hasn’t. Worth thinking about that.
What experience does the role involve? what experience do you need to report back what you see and hear? Surely the only real qualification you need to do that job is to be able to articulate accurately what you have seen and heard? Or am I missing something? Why do you consider him to be totally inexperienced? He clearly is not totally an inexperienced young man. He has experience both in football and business.
He also has his Dad directing and asking the questions. A Dad who we know talks to people across football. Personally I don’t underestimate TS.
You would imagine Sandgaard Jr is merely acting as an extension of Sandgaard. If Thomas has felt helpless and lacking in information or honesty, it makes absolute sense for him to put one of the people he trusts more than anyone close at hand. It is probably no different to him as the owner being close at hand, which is difficult for him given his location, except his son probably knows a bit more about football than he does.
Got a lot of time for Airman and all he has done for the club over the years and 100% believe his intentions are always for the best for the club but he ain't always right that's for sure
He may not be God but he’s been damn close to it at times.
This is about process. As unsavoury as the expression is, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Can I suggest we try to understand the professional contention here.
Mr Jackson has arguably thrown the above proverbial cat amongst the pigeons.
Any resistance here is likely going to be based on the recruitment completed to this point being based on the playing (business plan) principles agreed by GR, SG, NA, SA assisted by the little black box all signed off by TS.
There are enough coaching certificates in the room to weigh down a fishing trawler;
Based on the plan the club acquired; MacGillivray, Henderson, Clare, Lavelle, Famewo, Souare, (Jaiyesimi), Leko, Blackett Taylor, Dobson, Arter, Lee, Kirk, Stockley while retaining Matthews, Pearce, Watson, and Forster-Caskey involving a mid process scramble and budgetary realignment.
Of the 12 new outfield players Clare was bought as a Midfield player, (Jayiesimi) , Leko, Blackett-Taylor and Kirk as Winger/Midfield/ Forwards
Jackson has switched to a bespoke 3-5-2 press meaning there are no (true) wingers effectively transforming; - 2 right backs and a midfield player into Right Centre Backs - 3 winger/ forwards into withdrawn quasi Right Wing Backs - a worthy defensive left back into a key attacking threat
while basing his game plan around the midfield running power of Gilbey - Dobson - Lee.
It has consequences. The style expensively likely renders Arter, Watson, Morgan, Forster-Caskey and maybe Kirk surplus to needs because none naturally fit the running power, mobility and physicality needed to meet the pressing style set by the first 3.
Morgan/ Kirk might grow into the Lee role but in the running stakes Clare is the next man up.
Somebody might politely enquire why they have just spent the money they have.
JJ has used 60% designed recruitment/ retentions in a manner for which they were not intended.
JJ and 99% of coaches (including those in the room) will argue a footballer is a footballer is a footballer to which the results are testimony.
If your name was Tuchel or Wilder then bespoke solutions are absolutely no problem but JJ has very politely « pissed on » much of the meticulous summer and pre season planning.
There will have been (costly) hours of research, scouting, analysis, debate, talks, black box algorithm tweaks, budget adjustments and contract negotiations going into the recruitment undertaken. People will have put reputations on the line to get decisions made.
Imagine if we had actually recruited to have the flexibility to play a bespoke 3-5-2.
The U23 and development teams appear to be carrying out the same realignment.
There will be a swathe of players who will not naturally fit a bespoke 3-5-2 press system.
Continue down the path JJ has laid out (why wouldn't you?) and somebody is going to; a) have to manage the contractual fall out b) work out how to change future recruitment principles c) realign how the little black box manages the process
In essence JJ has evidenced the precise challenge TS and 90% of modern day club owners want to avoid.
Bespoke Managerial playing styles take you to the place where every change of Manager requires an expensive recruitment/ player churn to accommodate the next playing style.
It is likely why Martin Sandgaard is now in the room. The last thing TS needs is another Subject Matter Expert in the room muddying the debate. He needs to hear an independent voice.
It is arguably why there is a delay in appointing a new manager. It is less about JJs personal qualities more about the way the process might/ can work going forward.
Through talking with multiple managerial candidates TS will gain and gauge further market intelligence how any of them might want to work.
In terms of personalities can we park the attached personal ego stuff
In any profession there is one bottom line. Each and every day if any employee walks through the door they are being payed to deliver to the business employing them
Don’t like the terms and conditions don’t walk through the door. If you do, just do the job you are being paid to do to the best of your ability.
If you believe you have better options then please explore them …….in your own time.
Any and every business, business unit, club and team is always bigger than any one man/ woman.
Mr Jackson I believe has a very great deal to offer to CAFC. CAFC uniquely has a very great deal to offer Mr Jackson.
Saturday confirmed both sides of that equation.
However how they work together going forward has to suit all parties.
Mr Martin Sandgaard may or may not be instrumental to that debate.
It's not overly complicated. We're Charlton Athletic in the 3rd division not Real Madrid or a complex global corporation.
Need a manager who gets the best out of his squad and scouts to find the type of players he wants and coaches to coach them. And a generous benefactor to stay in the background and fund it.
It really is as simple as that no matter how many men in suits try to carve out careers in the football gravy train with ludicrously unearned and meaningless titles and roles and oft detrimental influence.
Everything else is just unnecessary noise and pomp and might look great in a business plan or investor document but means nothing at this level of English football as been proved hitherto.
We had the best business plan and management structure apparently at the start of the summer yet 6 weeks ago and the black box saw us sitting 23rd in the 3rd division until Jackson went back to basics and did what he thought best and turned it around with his coaches. Keep it simple.
It's not overly complicated. We're Charlton Athletic in the 3rd division not Real Madrid or a complex global corporation.
Need a manager who gets the best out of his squad and scouts to find the type of players he wants and coaches to coach them. And a generous benefactor to stay in the background and fund it.
It really is as simple as that no matter how many men in suits try to carve out careers in the football gravy train with ludicrously unearned and meaningless titles and roles and oft detrimental influence.
Everything else is just unnecessary noise and pomp and might look great in a business plan or investor document but means nothing at this level of English football as been proved hitherto.
We had the best business plan and management structure apparently at the start of the summer yet 6 weeks ago and the black box saw us sitting 23rd in the 3rd division until Jackson went back to basics and did what he thought best and turned it around with his coaches. Keep it simple.
As for appointing family members. I would imagine somebody acting as your eyes and ears and being somebody you trust would fit a family member pretty well.
I think 'trust' is the key point here. Appoint a CEO and you could have another person providing contradictory feedback, noting that once a CEO is appointed, all feedback ought to be fed back via the CEO.
One thing I don't understand is why JJ was allowed to change the formation from 4-3-3 immediately on his appointment? If it was recognised by Gallen / Roddy, etc. that 4-3-3 wasn't working under Adkins, sure Nigel should have been given the opportunity to use a different system(s) before he was sacked? What am I missing?
One thing I don't understand is why JJ was allowed to change the formation from 4-3-3 immediately on his appointment? If it was recognised by Gallen / Roddy, etc. that 4-3-3 wasn't working under Adkins, sure Nigel should have been given the opportunity to use a different system(s) before he was sacked? What am I missing?
Don't know but maybe Adkins didn't want to change the system. Perhaps the 433 was his idea and he didn't want to deviate from it as it would be seen as a sign of him being wrong. Maybe it was forced on him but JJ refused to be dictated to. Maybe it is just what each of them prefer.
JJ and JE clearly have their own ideas on what formation to play and what players to use and so far it is working.
But the longer JJ has success with this formation and starting XI the more the summer recruitment looks like it wasn't the main or only problem, at least not the early signings of Dobson and Clare.
The failures, if it is fair to say that so early on, have been later recruits such as Kirk, Arter, Souare. On the other hand later recruits such as Leko, Lavelle and Lee have, apart from injuries, done well.
I think that there isn't one simple answer (there rarely is to complicated questions) about why we started so poorly or what was wrong behind the scenes. Remember we finished last season very strongly and all looked good, from the outside at least, back in May.
But JJ has the team winning and he's a legend, as is Euell who I think maybe being overlooked by some.
The power dynamic changes in any organisation when roles or people change. There is a battle for power and status. Sometimes that stage is moved through quickly, sometimes not.
Is Roddy blocking JJ and JE's permanent appointment because he feels it undermines him? Perhaps, I don't know.
Is Roddy saying hang on, let's take our time and see who else is out there before jumping to appoint a caretaker the way Man Utd did with Ole? Perhaps, I don't know.
Is Sandgaard Snr taking his time because he can and will make his decision when he sees fit? Perhaps, I don't know.
Leo Rifkind seems to have faded from the scene or at least the public scene.
As a non exec director, he would never be a public figure. I imagine he's advising TS on some of the UK corporate issues and any potential purchase of the real estate
One thing I don't understand is why JJ was allowed to change the formation from 4-3-3 immediately on his appointment? If it was recognised by Gallen / Roddy, etc. that 4-3-3 wasn't working under Adkins, sure Nigel should have been given the opportunity to use a different system(s) before he was sacked? What am I missing?
Nigel played a 352 twice so that breaks any idea he was being forced to play a formation. When we first appointed him, we knew he'd primarily be playing the 4231 here because that's his system.
It's not really that unusual for a manager to blindly stick to something that's not working... Ala Karl Robinson...
JJ also knows the players we bought from his past/coaching/links with other managers. How much would NA actually know about guys in L1 while taking time out of football.
I agree with some of Grapevine's post about them needing a review. Only 2 players are playing in the same role as they did under NA - MacGillivray and Gilbey. Everybody else's role or position has been modified for about 90% of an improvement.
I found @Grapevine49's post a little hard to swallow - I assume this is more guess work than an insiders view, but if the viewpoint he offers is what is going on in the club, there is a huge error taking place in the efforts to aquire a 'Charlton' style across the playing staff at all ages.
FC Barcelona have a certain inhouse style which they develop in the youngsters who they aim to bring through to the first XI. They also had the money to buy big stars, and pay Messi to keep them winning when the game plan went awry. Charlton can't do the second part and the first involves tying any new manager to a game plan that may not work. Nice concept but a bit of a reach in league 1.
While I applaud the idea of promoting a sustainable business plan for the club, the idea of getting the club to have a set style (if that was what @Grapevine49 was implying with the 4-3-3 comment) seems horribly misguided. We saw a number of new managers in recent years take over, get a few wins, find the opposition had wised up to our game plan and how to nullify it, and eventually get shunted out. Football management needs a bit of flexibility. Building a squad around a set formation just dosen't make any sense to me.
To return to JJ, he was thrown in the deep end with the club 23rd in the table and an away game at Sunderland on the horizon. He changed the look of the team and ground out a 1-0 win. Was he supposed to revert to 4-3-3 because that is how the recruitment went in the summer? When a different style of play had yielded an instant better performance? The fact is at all levels, any manager will occasionally need to change the set up on the field, beyond merely freshening up the legs. JJ has currently got the team playing football. If there are changes to make, they should be around giving him the players he needs to keep that going, not trying to shoehorn the players we brought in the summer (Kirk for example) into a formation that did us no favours for the first part of the season.
Personally, I'm not convinced that the delay in signing JJ up on a full time basis is anything more than prudence on the part of the owner. If however the suggestion outlined bu Grapevine is how this is being discussed in the backroom, there are people at the club who don't recognise a wonderful gift when it arrives. Looking back over the post Curbishley era, we have had a lot of mediocre managers and the standout's were Bowyer and Powell. JJ may or may not be able to maintain the sparkle he has bought to the team, but it would be insanity not to try. And changing him for someone else in order to submit to some hypothetical plan sounds horribly like RD's idea of buying a network of clubs to cut out the agents and make money. Fingesr crossed we aren't trying out another weird football experiment again.
One thing I don't understand is why JJ was allowed to change the formation from 4-3-3 immediately on his appointment? If it was recognised by Gallen / Roddy, etc. that 4-3-3 wasn't working under Adkins, sure Nigel should have been given the opportunity to use a different system(s) before he was sacked? What am I missing?
Don't know but maybe Adkins didn't want to change the system. Perhaps the 433 was his idea and he didn't want to deviate from it as it would be seen as a sign of him being wrong. Maybe it was forced on him but JJ refused to be dictated to. Maybe it is just what each of them prefer.
JJ and JE clearly have their own ideas on what formation to play and what players to use and so far it is working.
But the longer JJ has success with this formation and starting XI the more the summer recruitment looks like it wasn't the main or only problem, at least not the early signings of Dobson and Clare.
The failures, if it is fair to say that so early on, have been later recruits such as Kirk, Arter, Souare. On the other hand later recruits such as Leko, Lavelle and Lee have, apart from injuries, done well.
I think that there isn't one simple answer (there rarely is to complicated questions) about why we started so poorly or what was wrong behind the scenes. Remember we finished last season very strongly and all looked good, from the outside at least, back in May.
But JJ has the team winning and he's a legend, as is Euell who I think maybe being overlooked by some.
The power dynamic changes in any organisation when roles or people change. There is a battle for power and status. Sometimes that stage is moved through quickly, sometimes not.
Is Roddy blocking JJ and JE's permanent appointment because he feels it undermines him? Perhaps, I don't know.
Is Roddy saying hang on, let's take our time and see who else is out there before jumping to appoint a caretaker the way Man Utd did with Ole? Perhaps, I don't know.
Is Sandgaard Snr taking his time because he can and will make his decision when he sees fit? Perhaps, I don't know.
I doubt JJ refused to be dictated to. I suspect he wasn't dictated to in what was a crisis situation.
He said he would take his time (30-60 days?). He is only just back in the UK and I think I heard it reported 'for a little while'.
No doubt he will talk to JJ face to face this week and reach his conclusion. He is right to learn of other options / possible interest from outside as part of that process - doesn't mean he will go with them however.
I suspect he is also keen to ensure the whole management piece can hang together and assure himself JJ can be part of that. I don't mean in any way that Roddy /Gallen or his son have undue influence (as I just don't know) but simply that he needs to be comfortable he (JJ) can step up and be part of that aspect too.
I thought Grapevine's post was a fantastic piece of analysis, although I suggest the tweak that Jake Forster-Caskey would probably be able to do a decent job in Gilbey's role, and would certainly do a fine job in Purrington's
One thing I don't understand is why JJ was allowed to change the formation from 4-3-3 immediately on his appointment? If it was recognised by Gallen / Roddy, etc. that 4-3-3 wasn't working under Adkins, sure Nigel should have been given the opportunity to use a different system(s) before he was sacked? What am I missing?
Nigel played a 352 twice so that breaks any idea he was being forced to play a formation. When we first appointed him, we knew he'd primarily be playing the 4231 here because that's his system.
It's not really that unusual for a manager to blindly stick to something that's not working... Ala Karl Robinson...
I saw it as a 50/50
Adkins was brought in because his coaching style and preferred formation fits the plan, he stuck to it apart from 2 games, desperation to make the system work? Maybe.
It didn't work out, was he really going to admit to his employer that he couldn't do what he was hired to do? Probably not.
We now have the boss' son around, who, will probably find it easier reporting back the thoughts and opinions.
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Was it up for sale at the time?
The assumption that Adkins is his mate only adds to the narrative that he is the tail wagging the dog.
I thought that it looked like he had sold some sort of master plan to Thomas but the more Thomas speaks the more it sounds like it's actually Thomas's vision or plan.
I think there are some legitimate questions that should be asked of Roddy but I don't think there is some sinister machiavellan plot
Why do you consider him to be totally inexperienced? He clearly is not totally an inexperienced young man. He has experience both in football and business.
This is about process. As unsavoury as the expression is, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Can I suggest we try to understand the professional contention here.
Mr Jackson has arguably thrown the above proverbial cat amongst the pigeons.
Any resistance here is likely going to be based on the recruitment completed to this point being based on the playing (business plan) principles agreed by GR, SG, NA, SA assisted by the little black box all signed off by TS.
There are enough coaching certificates in the room to weigh down a fishing trawler;
Based on the plan the club acquired; MacGillivray, Henderson, Clare, Lavelle, Famewo, Souare, (Jaiyesimi), Leko, Blackett Taylor, Dobson, Arter, Lee, Kirk, Stockley while retaining Matthews, Pearce, Watson, and Forster-Caskey involving a mid process scramble and budgetary realignment.
Of the 12 new outfield players Clare was bought as a Midfield player, (Jayiesimi) , Leko, Blackett-Taylor and Kirk as Winger/Midfield/ Forwards
Jackson has switched to a bespoke 3-5-2 press meaning there are no (true) wingers effectively transforming;
- 2 right backs and a midfield player into Right Centre Backs
- 3 winger/ forwards into withdrawn quasi Right Wing Backs
- a worthy defensive left back into a key attacking threat
while basing his game plan around the midfield running power of Gilbey - Dobson - Lee.
It has consequences. The style expensively likely renders Arter, Watson, Morgan, Forster-Caskey and maybe Kirk surplus to needs because none naturally fit the running power, mobility and physicality needed to meet the pressing style set by the first 3.
Morgan/ Kirk might grow into the Lee role but in the running stakes Clare is the next man up.
Somebody might politely enquire why they have just spent the money they have.
JJ and 99% of coaches (including those in the room) will argue a footballer is a footballer is a footballer to which the results are testimony.
If your name was Tuchel or Wilder then bespoke solutions are absolutely no problem but JJ has very politely « pissed on » much of the meticulous summer and pre season planning.
There will have been (costly) hours of research, scouting, analysis, debate, talks, black box algorithm tweaks, budget adjustments and contract negotiations going into the recruitment undertaken. People will have put reputations on the line to get decisions made.
Imagine if we had actually recruited to have the flexibility to play a bespoke 3-5-2.
The U23 and development teams appear to be carrying out the same realignment.
There will be a swathe of players who will not naturally fit a bespoke 3-5-2 press system.
Continue down the path JJ has laid out (why wouldn't you?) and somebody is going to;
a) have to manage the contractual fall out
b) work out how to change future recruitment principles
c) realign how the little black box manages the process
In essence JJ has evidenced the precise challenge TS and 90% of modern day club owners want to avoid.
Bespoke Managerial playing styles take you to the place where every change of Manager requires an expensive recruitment/ player churn to accommodate the next playing style.
It is likely why Martin Sandgaard is now in the room. The last thing TS needs is another Subject Matter Expert in the room muddying the debate. He needs to hear an independent voice.
It is arguably why there is a delay in appointing a new manager. It is less about JJs personal qualities more about the way the process might/ can work going forward.
Through talking with multiple managerial candidates TS will gain and gauge further market intelligence how any of them might want to work.
In terms of personalities can we park the attached personal ego stuff
In any profession there is one bottom line. Each and every day if any employee walks through the door they are being payed to deliver to the business employing them
Don’t like the terms and conditions don’t walk through the door. If you do, just do the job you are being paid to do to the best of your ability.
If you believe you have better options then please explore them …….in your own time.
Any and every business, business unit, club and team is always bigger than any one man/ woman.
Mr Jackson I believe has a very great deal to offer to CAFC. CAFC uniquely has a very great deal to offer Mr Jackson.
Saturday confirmed both sides of that equation.
However how they work together going forward has to suit all parties.
Mr Martin Sandgaard may or may not be instrumental to that debate.
Need a manager who gets the best out of his squad and scouts to find the type of players he wants and coaches to coach them. And a generous benefactor to stay in the background and fund it.
It really is as simple as that no matter how many men in suits try to carve out careers in the football gravy train with ludicrously unearned and meaningless titles and roles and oft detrimental influence.
Everything else is just unnecessary noise and pomp and might look great in a business plan or investor document but means nothing at this level of English football as been proved hitherto.
We had the best business plan and management structure apparently at the start of the summer yet 6 weeks ago and the black box saw us sitting 23rd in the 3rd division until Jackson went back to basics and did what he thought best and turned it around with his coaches. Keep it simple.
Appoint a CEO and you could have another person providing contradictory feedback, noting that once a CEO is appointed, all feedback ought to be fed back via the CEO.
If it was recognised by Gallen / Roddy, etc. that 4-3-3 wasn't working under Adkins, sure Nigel should have been given the opportunity to use a different system(s) before he was sacked?
What am I missing?
JJ and JE clearly have their own ideas on what formation to play and what players to use and so far it is working.
But the longer JJ has success with this formation and starting XI the more the summer recruitment looks like it wasn't the main or only problem, at least not the early signings of Dobson and Clare.
The failures, if it is fair to say that so early on, have been later recruits such as Kirk, Arter, Souare. On the other hand later recruits such as Leko, Lavelle and Lee have, apart from injuries, done well.
I think that there isn't one simple answer (there rarely is to complicated questions) about why we started so poorly or what was wrong behind the scenes. Remember we finished last season very strongly and all looked good, from the outside at least, back in May.
But JJ has the team winning and he's a legend, as is Euell who I think maybe being overlooked by some.
The power dynamic changes in any organisation when roles or people change. There is a battle for power and status. Sometimes that stage is moved through quickly, sometimes not.
Is Roddy blocking JJ and JE's permanent appointment because he feels it undermines him? Perhaps, I don't know.
Is Roddy saying hang on, let's take our time and see who else is out there before jumping to appoint a caretaker the way Man Utd did with Ole? Perhaps, I don't know.
Is Sandgaard Snr taking his time because he can and will make his decision when he sees fit? Perhaps, I don't know.
It's not really that unusual for a manager to blindly stick to something that's not working... Ala Karl Robinson...
I agree with some of Grapevine's post about them needing a review. Only 2 players are playing in the same role as they did under NA - MacGillivray and Gilbey. Everybody else's role or position has been modified for about 90% of an improvement.
FC Barcelona have a certain inhouse style which they develop in the youngsters who they aim to bring through to the first XI. They also had the money to buy big stars, and pay Messi to keep them winning when the game plan went awry. Charlton can't do the second part and the first involves tying any new manager to a game plan that may not work. Nice concept but a bit of a reach in league 1.
While I applaud the idea of promoting a sustainable business plan for the club, the idea of getting the club to have a set style (if that was what @Grapevine49 was implying with the 4-3-3 comment) seems horribly misguided. We saw a number of new managers in recent years take over, get a few wins, find the opposition had wised up to our game plan and how to nullify it, and eventually get shunted out. Football management needs a bit of flexibility. Building a squad around a set formation just dosen't make any sense to me.
To return to JJ, he was thrown in the deep end with the club 23rd in the table and an away game at Sunderland on the horizon. He changed the look of the team and ground out a 1-0 win. Was he supposed to revert to 4-3-3 because that is how the recruitment went in the summer? When a different style of play had yielded an instant better performance? The fact is at all levels, any manager will occasionally need to change the set up on the field, beyond merely freshening up the legs. JJ has currently got the team playing football. If there are changes to make, they should be around giving him the players he needs to keep that going, not trying to shoehorn the players we brought in the summer (Kirk for example) into a formation that did us no favours for the first part of the season.
Personally, I'm not convinced that the delay in signing JJ up on a full time basis is anything more than prudence on the part of the owner. If however the suggestion outlined bu Grapevine is how this is being discussed in the backroom, there are people at the club who don't recognise a wonderful gift when it arrives. Looking back over the post Curbishley era, we have had a lot of mediocre managers and the standout's were Bowyer and Powell. JJ may or may not be able to maintain the sparkle he has bought to the team, but it would be insanity not to try. And changing him for someone else in order to submit to some hypothetical plan sounds horribly like RD's idea of buying a network of clubs to cut out the agents and make money. Fingesr crossed we aren't trying out another weird football experiment again.
He said he would take his time (30-60 days?). He is only just back in the UK and I think I heard it reported 'for a little while'.
No doubt he will talk to JJ face to face this week and reach his conclusion. He is right to learn of other options / possible interest from outside as part of that process - doesn't mean he will go with them however.
I suspect he is also keen to ensure the whole management piece can hang together and assure himself JJ can be part of that. I don't mean in any way that Roddy /Gallen or his son have undue influence (as I just don't know) but simply that he needs to be comfortable he (JJ) can step up and be part of that aspect too.
I saw it as a 50/50
Adkins was brought in because his coaching style and preferred formation fits the plan, he stuck to it apart from 2 games, desperation to make the system work? Maybe.
It didn't work out, was he really going to admit to his employer that he couldn't do what he was hired to do?
Probably not.
We now have the boss' son around, who, will probably find it easier reporting back the thoughts and opinions.
But, one thing's for sure, Ged Roddy is to blame.