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Sports Personality of the Year 2021
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Barry McGuigan represented Northern Ireland and is a UK citizen thoughPrincessFiona said:
It doesn't matter if anyone has received it before as it is for 2021 or if they will have another chance, however hard that is only 1 time Olympians or those is a sport with a shorter career. I am not his biggest fan but think he should be included. And the Scottish boxer Josh Taylor, who became the first Brit to become a four-belt undisputed championGribbo said:PrincessFiona said:Maybe there should have been a longer not so short-list. Josh Taylor deserves a place as well as Hamilton
Why does Hamilton deserve a place? There's a few people who have achieved more in their chosen sports this year and probably won't have another chance to be nominated. And it ain't like he hasn't already received it, twice
But I guess, in the same way as we won;t all agree who to vote for, we won't all agree about the nominees. But I strongly feel a list of 6 is not enough, when there have been more nominees in previous years.
I hadn't though about Rachel Blackmore, but her being from the ROI shouldn't exclude her if she competes in the UK, as a footballer wouldn't be excluded if they played for ROI and Barry McGuigan has won it previously.0 - 
            Emma Raducanu will win it but I'd say Josh Taylor deserves it more. Undisputed champion and has fought everyone, most of them undefeated before fighting him
Raheem Stirling was my personal hero of the summer and I like his attitude towards the shittier elements of the press not to mention his attitude towards carrying the ball and scoring important goals1 - 
            
Ah, I wasn't sure which. But an footballer why played for ROI wouldn't be excluded, or would they?Pelling1993 said:
Barry McGuigan represented Northern Ireland and is a UK citizen thoughPrincessFiona said:
It doesn't matter if anyone has received it before as it is for 2021 or if they will have another chance, however hard that is only 1 time Olympians or those is a sport with a shorter career. I am not his biggest fan but think he should be included. And the Scottish boxer Josh Taylor, who became the first Brit to become a four-belt undisputed championGribbo said:PrincessFiona said:Maybe there should have been a longer not so short-list. Josh Taylor deserves a place as well as Hamilton
Why does Hamilton deserve a place? There's a few people who have achieved more in their chosen sports this year and probably won't have another chance to be nominated. And it ain't like he hasn't already received it, twice
But I guess, in the same way as we won;t all agree who to vote for, we won't all agree about the nominees. But I strongly feel a list of 6 is not enough, when there have been more nominees in previous years.
I hadn't though about Rachel Blackmore, but her being from the ROI shouldn't exclude her if she competes in the UK, as a footballer wouldn't be excluded if they played for ROI and Barry McGuigan has won it previously.
I think Barry McGuigan is from Clones, which I think is in the ROI - edited, as I think it might actually be in both!0 - 
            
Someone from the Republic is only eligible for the overseas award, even if they've made their name in the UK (e.g. Roy Keane)PrincessFiona said:
It doesn't matter if anyone has received it before as it is for 2021 or if they will have another chance, however hard that is only 1 time Olympians or those is a sport with a shorter career. I am not his biggest fan but think he should be included. And the Scottish boxer Josh Taylor, who became the first Brit to become a four-belt undisputed championGribbo said:PrincessFiona said:Maybe there should have been a longer not so short-list. Josh Taylor deserves a place as well as Hamilton
Why does Hamilton deserve a place? There's a few people who have achieved more in their chosen sports this year and probably won't have another chance to be nominated. And it ain't like he hasn't already received it, twice
But I guess, in the same way as we won;t all agree who to vote for, we won't all agree about the nominees. But I strongly feel a list of 6 is not enough, when there have been more nominees in previous years.
I hadn't though about Rachel Blackmore, but her being from the ROI shouldn't exclude her if she competes in the UK, as a footballer wouldn't be excluded if they played for ROI and Barry McGuigan has won it previously.
Have any overseas born cricketers who play for England ever been nominated for the main award? The likes of Morgan, Pietersen, Allan Lamb etc1 - 
            
Apparently, 'on three occasions a sportsman from outside the United Kingdom has made the podium, on each occasion for sporting success achieved in Great Britain; New Zealand speedway star Barry Briggs (1964 and 1966) and Italian jockey Frankie Dettori (1996). Barry McGuigan, Greg Rusedski and Lennox Lewis originally competed for Ireland (McGuigan) and Canada (Rusedski and Lewis) respectively, but had completed their transfer of allegiance to Great Britain by the time of their awards'.killerandflash said:
Someone from the Republic is only eligible for the overseas award, even if they've made their name in the UK (e.g. Roy Keane)PrincessFiona said:
It doesn't matter if anyone has received it before as it is for 2021 or if they will have another chance, however hard that is only 1 time Olympians or those is a sport with a shorter career. I am not his biggest fan but think he should be included. And the Scottish boxer Josh Taylor, who became the first Brit to become a four-belt undisputed championGribbo said:PrincessFiona said:Maybe there should have been a longer not so short-list. Josh Taylor deserves a place as well as Hamilton
Why does Hamilton deserve a place? There's a few people who have achieved more in their chosen sports this year and probably won't have another chance to be nominated. And it ain't like he hasn't already received it, twice
But I guess, in the same way as we won;t all agree who to vote for, we won't all agree about the nominees. But I strongly feel a list of 6 is not enough, when there have been more nominees in previous years.
I hadn't though about Rachel Blackmore, but her being from the ROI shouldn't exclude her if she competes in the UK, as a footballer wouldn't be excluded if they played for ROI and Barry McGuigan has won it previously.
Have any overseas born cricketers who play for England ever been nominated for the main award? The likes of Morgan, Pietersen, Allan Lamb etc0 - 
            
Blackmore has won the GN and some top races at Cheltenham .. she is fortunate in the 'big' races to ride for trainers and owners of really top class horses.. however her overall record in UK is about 16% win rate and Ireland is around 14% .. she is (UK winners) statistically behind (e.g.) Cobden, Coleman and Skelton, Bryony Frost has a better UK record than Blackmore.sralan said:And Rachael Blackmore doesn't even get a mention !!
My choice for overseas SPOTY would be Sergio Aguero, I doubt we'll ever see the likes of him again .. another possibility is Mohamed Salah who's having a great season for Liverpool0 - 
            Fury has done almost sod all this year, and Sterling is a loser1
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            It’s Raducanu for me, Hollywood year for her and I don’t even rate tennis that much. Does make me laugh that some think cricketers should be allowed on the list though…0
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Agreed re Raducanu but as a batsman (I don't see the need use a gender-neutral alternative) he has scored the most runs in a calendar year and it isn't even over yet. He could score even more, if other ENG players can manage to stay in long enough at the other end!Fumbluff said:It’s Raducanu for me, Hollywood year for her and I don’t even rate tennis that much. Does make me laugh that some think cricketers should be allowed on the list though…0 - 
            
It’s a dying sport though, nobody without a beard watches it…it’s just not relevantPrincessFiona said:
Agreed re Raducanu but as a batsman (I don't see the need use a gender-neutral alternative) he has scored the most runs in a calendar year and it isn't even over yet. He could score even more, if other ENG players can manage to stay in long enough at the other end!Fumbluff said:It’s Raducanu for me, Hollywood year for her and I don’t even rate tennis that much. Does make me laugh that some think cricketers should be allowed on the list though…0 - 
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            If Gabby is to be believed the winner has to have a smile that lights up a room.
If that is the case then Elliot Lee should win as his smile could illuminate the whole of Chislehurst Caves.1 - 
            No audience. Makes the whole thing a bit shit.0
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Even if there was an audience the whole thing would be shit.ValleyGary said:No audience. Makes the whole thing a bit shit.
This is one programme that should have been pensioned off years ago.14 - 
            You can vote for the 2021 SPOTY winner tonight between 6.45-9pmBut, as a tribute to F1 racing, they are going to stop the voting at 8.55pm, discard the votes cast up until that point and then restart the process for a frantic 30-40 secondsSeems legit……
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The script for the reset voting has been leaked.kakaka said:You can vote for the 2021 SPOTY winner tonight between 6.45-9pmBut, as a tribute to F1 racing, they are going to stop the voting at 8.55pm, discard the votes cast up until that point and then restart the process for a frantic 30-40 secondsSeems legit……
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            Enjoying Gabby Logan’s leg0
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            Love it - the BBC and Lineker not hiding back on showing their views on the farce from last weekend! Fair play.1
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            Southgate sounded like he was choking up just then0
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            Tom Daley second, above Adam Peaty?0
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Peaty is clearly an all time great, but Daley's win was more of a story, considering that he first competed in the Olympics in 2008 and finally got his gold 13 years laterRedArmySE7 said:Tom Daley second, above Adam Peaty?1 - 
            Sterling being nominated still seems a bit weird, in a tournament when it was a team effort rather than one player dragging us through singlehanded0
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His season with City as well, plus the racist abuse he suffered. There’s always a footballer in there.killerandflash said:Sterling being nominated still seems a bit weird, in a tournament when it was a team effort rather than one player dragging us through singlehanded0 - 
            Winner never really in doubt0
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His club form hasn't been that good in 2021 though.ValleyGary said:
His season with City as well, plus the racist abuse he suffered. There’s always a footballer in there.killerandflash said:Sterling being nominated still seems a bit weird, in a tournament when it was a team effort rather than one player dragging us through singlehanded1 - 
            
Oh I know but they still won the league and the league cup, plus CL runners up. I’m just saying it’s another reason for him being put forward.killerandflash said:
His club form hasn't been that good in 2021 though.ValleyGary said:
His season with City as well, plus the racist abuse he suffered. There’s always a footballer in there.killerandflash said:Sterling being nominated still seems a bit weird, in a tournament when it was a team effort rather than one player dragging us through singlehandedEuros he was the main man tho, ‘Boy from Brent’ stuff etc.0 - 
            
When's the movie?killerandflash said:
Peaty is clearly an all time great, but Daley's win was more of a story, considering that he first competed in the Olympics in 2008 and finally got his gold 13 years laterRedArmySE7 said:Tom Daley second, above Adam Peaty?
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