Yes - Davison did well yesterday when on. Also after a nice (albeit lucky) turn on the touchline where Lumpy Hanley took him out, 2/3 of our players rushed over to congratulate him. This denotes that they know he needs a confidence boost. If only some of our fans could notice these details, rather than sing crappy songs about Millwall, we might get an extra 10% out of some players.
Looking back the highlights - some of our build up play was excellent. The youtube and bbc highlights show different extracts from the game for anybody looking.
Enjoyed that yesterday but it was plain to see that we badly missed Jayden and Conor, despite Mason Barstow doing pretty well.
To be fair to Norwich, they were relatively poor but they brought on proper first teamers second half and it showed. Pukki showed great pace, control and composure to set up their goal and Brandon Williams (on loan from Man United) was excellent at left back, shutting out everyone down our right flank.
Glad we got to the third round anyway and it showed the FA Cup still has some magic. At home against a Prem side in front of a good crowd was much more like it. Hope Jacko takes it seriously again next season and so will I.
possibly not a popular opinion but we don't have enough goals from midfield, or depth from the striker dept, Gilbey and Lee as well as wingers need to step up, same results whether prem reservers or league 1 so the problem is our own..
Yesterday was a strange experience for me. As we had to select our seats instead of just rocking up to our usual ST place on the back row of block N in the top drawer of the Cupboard End, Junior decided he wanted to sit in another part of the ground so we went into the Lord Llewellyn Stand, front row, by the half-way line. It was first time I'd been in that stand for about 25 years.
Now, Little'un loved it there because he could see everything close up and he didn't have anybody standing up in front of him blocking his view (although the young lads sitting next to me were often leaning forward on the advertising boards so he couldn't always see into the scoreboard corner) - he wants to sit down there again. I, on the other hand, wasn't keen on the view because I didn't have the same perspective of the pitch as I'm used to up high behind the goal where I can see everything, including the off-the-ball movement etc.
One thing I did learn from sitting down the front is that I have been horribly wrong about Ryan Inniss. I have been calling him "the Mountain" because he's a big unit like the Game Of Thrones character. It appears I've been doing him a gross dis-service. He is massive. He's not a mountain, he's the whole bloody range. And that tackle he laid in the first half that lead to Lee's shot at goal was worth the admission price itself.
Norwich were poor ... even after brining on Pukki et al in the second half. Before then they made our start-of-the-season form look stellar. Even their play-acting and time-wasting was third division standard and a more competent ref would have kicked their arses much sooner.
I though Burstow played really well, there looks to be a lot of promise there - I just hope that we don't burden the young lad too much too soon.
Hendo didn't really have much to do in the match. He made a couple of good saves, didn't have much chance with the goal (the one bit of class from Norwich all day), and put in our best ball into the box in stoppage time.
The back three were terrific. Clare doesn't deserve to lose his place on the right side, Inniss was colossal (in more ways than one!), and the skipper marshalled the line very well.
The Hoover Dobson had a great game on the half-back line and was probably my MotM (if Inniss had seen out the game it would have been him). Gilbey had some nice touches and runs, same as Lee, and DJ and Leko both had good spells without threatening too much. Ben Purr played quite well and at times looked to be our most dangerous player in the Norwich penalty area. I haven't seen the highlights yet so I can't comment on his injury-time header that crashed against the crossbar and whether he should have done better.
Something that should have been better: set-pieces. Corners, free kicks - all were a bloody disgrace, with Hendo's late ball the honourable exception. We can all moan about the ref (any ref, any week) not giving us free kicks in the oppo half or around the box but what would be the point? Our delivery is woeful, and don't even get me started on the free-kick in first half stoppage time ...
I think our lack of goals in this side may have been mentioned in passing. I don't think there's been a proper debate about it yet, just some subtle references ...
If we don't have Washy or Stockers in the side we're in trouble; if we're missing both we're well and truly f***ed. We do not have a goal-threat from midfield as Lee, Gilbey, and Dobbo rarely pull the trigger.
When Lee has a shooting opportunity it always seems to be on his left foot and he refuses to take that chance, he'd rather bring it back onto his right by which time he's been closed down ... or his touch was so bad that he'd lost control; Gilbey normally spurns chances to hit it first time and instead takes a (heavy) touch and loses the opportunity; and Dobbo rarely gets far enough forward to have a pop.
On the whole it was a good performance against a top-flight team (albeit a crap one) and with a genuine goal-threat we'd have dispatched them quite comfortably.
Played well yesterday but missed Washington and Stockley. What was annoying , especially on half time with a free kick, was all the short corners and short free kicks… with Innis and Pearce just lump it in the box.On half time, from a good position, we could have thrown into the mixer…. but no..Lee does a short pass to someone and the ref blows for half time
I thought as a third division club we played well against a team two divisions higher than us and deserved something from the match. Good to see us competing and looking like we actually wanted to win a FA Cup match for a change.
Sadly we were unable to take the half chances we created (compare Leko with Udo of Shrewsbury against Liverpool for example) and it was inevitable that we would be punished eventually. The option to introduce Pukki as a sub (compare and contrast Josh Davison who I like incidentally) meant class would out at some point. Dear old Jason Pearce did his best to chase Pukki but I knew that one way or the other it was going to be 1-0 to them following that move.
What now?
We are 14 points off 6th after 24 games so play offs look unrealistic. However we are only 6 points off 21st so could get dragged into a relegation scrap if we are not careful. First target safety. Second target finish higher than 14th our worst post world war 2 league finish.
For my pennies worth, we were the better team in the first half. It was the subs at the start of the 2nd that turned it around for them. Are subs later added nothing to the performance of our team. That is the difference between even a poor premiership side and a league one team, the size and depth of quality of the squads,
Proud of the team, didn't realise that Washington was out as well as Stockley. Was then quite negative about how we'd do but pleasantly surprised. We deserved extra time imo.
Lee was his usual self, utterly frustrating, 20% chance of a good set-piece. Why he gets sung about all the time is beyond me. Did the small stuff well as usual, the less said about the end the better. He's just not very good but on balance he still has to be in the team.
Leko was also his usual self, headless chicken, lazy at times, greedy, poor decisions. Hopefully we can get rid after this season.
The defence were brilliant in general I thought - especially Clare, Innis and Pearce.
Dobson was excellent getting really stuck in and Gilbey worked really hard.
Think we would have won with Washington and Stockley up front.
Mention for Burstow who is raw and needs to toughen a bit but gave a good account of himself.
All in all a decent showing, but maybe Henderson can teach Lee how to take a decent set-piece (and DJ how to cross the ball.)
As said above have faith in JJ as long as he's backed properly and we get some decent depth.
Used to like Dean Smith,but after his "we got drawn in to scrappy play by them"he can get stuffed,they will go down,and hopefully fade into obscurity.Really pisses me off when oppo managers cannot force themselves to give just a bit of credit when their team does not perform as the want.
Used to like Dean Smith,but after his "we got drawn in to scrappy play by them"he can get stuffed,they will go down,and hopefully fade into obscurity.Really pisses me off when oppo managers cannot force themselves to give just a bit of credit when their team does not perform as the want.
A pretty good warm up for the coming run of league games, all of which are winnable and should see us start to narrow the gap for the play off places. Disappointed only with CBT who didn’t seem to have got the memo today - he’s far better than that and needs to start making sure people know it. Some superb performances today otherwise against PL players, even if they are crap PL players atm, and the charlton players can take that away and put that in their lockers
Wish I had your confidence. Given our current form and likelihood that Stockley will be out for a while yet, there's every chance we will suffer a few more morale-sapping defeats. Four of the next five games (including Hartlepool in the EFL Trophy) are away from home. I can't see it being easy.
Ah man, so frustrating. That was a game that was there to be won and we really should have. Just not good enough in the final third and our quality from wide areas and corners was just not at the required level.
A very gallant effort none the less, just couldn’t turn play and pressure into a goal. A keep saying every game ‘we wouldn’t have lost that with Stockley playing’ and I’m starting to wonder if I’m over-championing him.
Dobson was outstanding I thought
It wasn't that long ago that Stockley was getting pelters from some sections. He didn't cut the mustard in the Championship with Preston and he is probably a League One or League Two standard forward. His scoring record over the last ten seasons (saving 2017-19 with Exeter City in League Two) is typically single figures. He is arguably playing the best football of his career but he is not going to fire us to promotion with 20 plus goals. It's a sign of how weak we are upfront that many of us are over-championing him. Even without goals, his presence gives a bit more to the likes of Washington, who is also never going to lead us to promotion with his goals.
We need two more prolific goalscorers. Stockley and Washington could provide decent support in those circumstances. Relying on Davison and now Burstowe is unrealistic and potentially damaging for the pair of them.
Yeah dont know if its my age - the responses to the actual tweet think its brilliant
But dont see what's funny about that... e.g. the blokes dressed up as Palace fans taking the piss out of themselves, and the Millwall bloke who pretends to be a Charlton trainspotter are a little funny as they have a bit of context.
Used to like Dean Smith,but after his "we got drawn in to scrappy play by them"he can get stuffed,they will go down,and hopefully fade into obscurity.Really pisses me off when oppo managers cannot force themselves to give just a bit of credit when their team does not perform as the want.
Slagged our pitch off too.
Thought this when I watched MOTD. Usually Smith tells it how it is, but he's way off the mark here. We outplayed them for most of the game, they were fucking time wasting at nil nil ffs and the pitch looked fantastic from my view in the covered end and on tele. Dickhead.
MOTD also singled out Gunter as at fault for the goal which is not something I’ve seen mentioned on here.
Was he the one in the middle of the three running back? - I guess he could have been quicker in which case he'd have been able to cut out the cross from Pukki, as Clare was busy marking Rashica
MOTD also singled out Gunter as at fault for the goal which is not something I’ve seen mentioned on here.
Was he the one in the middle of the three running back? - I guess he could have been quicker in which case he'd have been able to cut out the cross from Pukki, as Clare was busy marking Rashica
Did you mention Gunter and running in the same sentence there ?
There was definitely some messy defending before the pass to Pukki. It was on the left hand side. An area Innis was marshalling very well before Gunter came on for him.
Yeah dont know if its my age - the responses to the actual tweet think its brilliant
But dont see what's funny about that... e.g. the blokes dressed up as Palace fans taking the piss out of themselves, and the Millwall bloke who pretends to be a Charlton trainspotter are a little funny as they have a bit of context.
That's just random though
I'm 33, don't find this remotely funny.
Showed it to my nephew who is 16 and he doesn't get it either.
Yeah dont know if its my age - the responses to the actual tweet think its brilliant
But dont see what's funny about that... e.g. the blokes dressed up as Palace fans taking the piss out of themselves, and the Millwall bloke who pretends to be a Charlton trainspotter are a little funny as they have a bit of context.
That's just random though
I'm 33, don't find this remotely funny.
Showed it to my nephew who is 16 and he doesn't get it either.
Some of his stuff is alright, but his paedo character weird.
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Looking back the highlights - some of our build up play was excellent. The youtube and bbc highlights show different extracts from the game for anybody looking.
To be fair to Norwich, they were relatively poor but they brought on proper first teamers second half and it showed. Pukki showed great pace, control and composure to set up their goal and Brandon Williams (on loan from Man United) was excellent at left back, shutting out everyone down our right flank.
Glad we got to the third round anyway and it showed the FA Cup still has some magic. At home against a Prem side in front of a good crowd was much more like it. Hope Jacko takes it seriously again next season and so will I.
Now, Little'un loved it there because he could see everything close up and he didn't have anybody standing up in front of him blocking his view (although the young lads sitting next to me were often leaning forward on the advertising boards so he couldn't always see into the scoreboard corner) - he wants to sit down there again. I, on the other hand, wasn't keen on the view because I didn't have the same perspective of the pitch as I'm used to up high behind the goal where I can see everything, including the off-the-ball movement etc.
One thing I did learn from sitting down the front is that I have been horribly wrong about Ryan Inniss. I have been calling him "the Mountain" because he's a big unit like the Game Of Thrones character. It appears I've been doing him a gross dis-service. He is massive. He's not a mountain, he's the whole bloody range. And that tackle he laid in the first half that lead to Lee's shot at goal was worth the admission price itself.
Norwich were poor ... even after brining on Pukki et al in the second half. Before then they made our start-of-the-season form look stellar. Even their play-acting and time-wasting was third division standard and a more competent ref would have kicked their arses much sooner.
I though Burstow played really well, there looks to be a lot of promise there - I just hope that we don't burden the young lad too much too soon.
Hendo didn't really have much to do in the match. He made a couple of good saves, didn't have much chance with the goal (the one bit of class from Norwich all day), and put in our best ball into the box in stoppage time.
The back three were terrific. Clare doesn't deserve to lose his place on the right side, Inniss was colossal (in more ways than one!), and the skipper marshalled the line very well.
The Hoover Dobson had a great game on the half-back line and was probably my MotM (if Inniss had seen out the game it would have been him). Gilbey had some nice touches and runs, same as Lee, and DJ and Leko both had good spells without threatening too much. Ben Purr played quite well and at times looked to be our most dangerous player in the Norwich penalty area. I haven't seen the highlights yet so I can't comment on his injury-time header that crashed against the crossbar and whether he should have done better.
Something that should have been better: set-pieces. Corners, free kicks - all were a bloody disgrace, with Hendo's late ball the honourable exception. We can all moan about the ref (any ref, any week) not giving us free kicks in the oppo half or around the box but what would be the point? Our delivery is woeful, and don't even get me started on the free-kick in first half stoppage time ...
I think our lack of goals in this side may have been mentioned in passing. I don't think there's been a proper debate about it yet, just some subtle references ...
If we don't have Washy or Stockers in the side we're in trouble; if we're missing both we're well and truly f***ed. We do not have a goal-threat from midfield as Lee, Gilbey, and Dobbo rarely pull the trigger.
When Lee has a shooting opportunity it always seems to be on his left foot and he refuses to take that chance, he'd rather bring it back onto his right by which time he's been closed down ... or his touch was so bad that he'd lost control; Gilbey normally spurns chances to hit it first time and instead takes a (heavy) touch and loses the opportunity; and Dobbo rarely gets far enough forward to have a pop.
On the whole it was a good performance against a top-flight team (albeit a crap one) and with a genuine goal-threat we'd have dispatched them quite comfortably.
I thought as a third division club we played well against a team two divisions higher than us and deserved something from the match. Good to see us competing and looking like we actually wanted to win a FA Cup match for a change.
Sadly we were unable to take the half chances we created (compare Leko with Udo of Shrewsbury against Liverpool for example) and it was inevitable that we would be punished eventually. The option to introduce Pukki as a sub (compare and contrast Josh Davison who I like incidentally) meant class would out at some point. Dear old Jason Pearce did his best to chase Pukki but I knew that one way or the other it was going to be 1-0 to them following that move.
What now?
We are 14 points off 6th after 24 games so play offs look unrealistic. However we are only 6 points off 21st so could get dragged into a relegation scrap if we are not careful. First target safety. Second target finish higher than 14th our worst post world war 2 league finish.
COYR
Are subs later added nothing to the performance of our team. That is the difference between even a poor premiership side and a league one team, the size and depth of quality of the squads,
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We need two more prolific goalscorers. Stockley and Washington could provide decent support in those circumstances. Relying on Davison and now Burstowe is unrealistic and potentially damaging for the pair of them.
But dont see what's funny about that... e.g. the blokes dressed up as Palace fans taking the piss out of themselves, and the Millwall bloke who pretends to be a Charlton trainspotter are a little funny as they have a bit of context.
That's just random though
Showed it to my nephew who is 16 and he doesn't get it either.