Changes To The Highway Code
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Gary Poole said:ForeverAddickted said:Gary Poole said:Gribbo said:Cloudworm said:Don't seem much different to me. Thought pedestrians always had priority when crossing at a junction. Common courtesy really.
In Japan bicycles aren't included in their version of the highway code. It's mental.
For any BMW drivers you can find your indicators on a stalk just behind the steering wheel.0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Gary Poole said:ForeverAddickted said:Gary Poole said:Gribbo said:Cloudworm said:Don't seem much different to me. Thought pedestrians always had priority when crossing at a junction. Common courtesy really.
In Japan bicycles aren't included in their version of the highway code. It's mental.
For any BMW drivers you can find your indicators on a stalk just behind the steering wheel.1 -
Not read all this thread but can someone please explain to me why a cyclist is not obliged to use a cycle lane even when one is present and why would a cyclist choose not to do so ?1
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ShootersHillGuru said:Not read all this thread but can someone please explain to me why a cyclist is not obliged to use a cycle lane even when one is present and why would a cyclist choose not to do so ?
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Rothko said:ShootersHillGuru said:Not read all this thread but can someone please explain to me why a cyclist is not obliged to use a cycle lane even when one is present and why would a cyclist choose not to do so ?3
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ShootersHillGuru said:Not read all this thread but can someone please explain to me why a cyclist is not obliged to use a cycle lane even when one is present and why would a cyclist choose not to do so ?
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The sarcasm comes from reading so much nonsense across the last three pages, and that comment tipped me over.
we done road tax yet?3 -
No, but I'm glad you brought that up.
I think cyclists (or their parents) should pay road tax unless they have done so already.
It would be hard to implement though.
It's probably better to get rid of road tax and increase tax on something else..............red and blue striped shirts seems sensible to me.2 -
jimmymelrose said:Overall this thread is very interesting.
What it highlights to me is this new norm that people are responsible to more vulnerable people, without those people being asked to take any responsibility themselves.
For example, cycling with headphones on. Just who are these stupid people? I myself get annoyed with anyone in my family who doesn't put on a helmet, of which we have six or seven between us.I think it’s funny though that people in cars think this so awful. Do you always drive with the windows open, no radio on and a complete ban on conversation whilst driving? If not you are being a tad hypocritical.2 -
jimmymelrose said:No, but I'm glad you brought that up.
I think cyclists (or their parents) should pay road tax unless they have done so already.
It would be hard to implement though.
It's probably better to get rid of road tax and increase tax on something else..............red and blue striped shirts seems sensible to me.You know roads and transport are funded from general taxation?1 - Sponsored links:
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Nearly smashed into 2 cyclists today. One on a Brompton jumping the lights on borough high street as I came out of St Thomas Street and then a courier ignoring his give way lines he should have stopped at but that's life and some things never change.0
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iainment said:jimmymelrose said:Overall this thread is very interesting.
What it highlights to me is this new norm that people are responsible to more vulnerable people, without those people being asked to take any responsibility themselves.
For example, cycling with headphones on. Just who are these stupid people? I myself get annoyed with anyone in my family who doesn't put on a helmet, of which we have six or seven between us.I think it’s funny though that people in cars think this so awful. Do you always drive with the windows open, no radio on and a complete ban on conversation whilst driving? If not you are being a tad hypocritical.0 -
Cloudworm said:Don't seem much different to me. Thought pedestrians always had priority when crossing at a junction. Common courtesy really.
In Japan bicycles aren't included in their version of the highway code. It's mental.
Bonkers.1 -
O-Randy-Hunt said:Nearly smashed into 2 cyclists today. One on a Brompton jumping the lights on borough high street as I came out of St Thomas Street and then a courier ignoring his give way lines he should have stopped at but that's life and some things never change.0
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Cheers Jeff0
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cblock said:iainment said:jimmymelrose said:Overall this thread is very interesting.
What it highlights to me is this new norm that people are responsible to more vulnerable people, without those people being asked to take any responsibility themselves.
For example, cycling with headphones on. Just who are these stupid people? I myself get annoyed with anyone in my family who doesn't put on a helmet, of which we have six or seven between us.I think it’s funny though that people in cars think this so awful. Do you always drive with the windows open, no radio on and a complete ban on conversation whilst driving? If not you are being a tad hypocritical.
I drive, and I’m not sitting here acting like I drive like the perfect pupil on their driving test.1 -
Rothko said:The sarcasm comes from reading so much nonsense across the last three pages, and that comment tipped me over.
we done road tax yet?0 -
Fucks sake.3
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golfaddick said:Cloudworm said:Don't seem much different to me. Thought pedestrians always had priority when crossing at a junction. Common courtesy really.
In Japan bicycles aren't included in their version of the highway code. It's mental.
Bonkers.
Mmmmm…..that’s gonna be great!
Everyone will just be stationary looking at one another, simply being indecisive.
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SoundAsa£ said:golfaddick said:Cloudworm said:Don't seem much different to me. Thought pedestrians always had priority when crossing at a junction. Common courtesy really.
In Japan bicycles aren't included in their version of the highway code. It's mental.
Bonkers.
Mmmmm…..that’s gonna be great!
On the other hand how will driverless cars (lol) stick to the highway code and know if the person standing on the pavement is waiting to cross or just having a chat with his mate.2 - Sponsored links:
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O-Randy-Hunt said:SoundAsa£ said:golfaddick said:Cloudworm said:Don't seem much different to me. Thought pedestrians always had priority when crossing at a junction. Common courtesy really.
In Japan bicycles aren't included in their version of the highway code. It's mental.
Bonkers.
Mmmmm…..that’s gonna be great!
On the other hand how will driverless cars (lol) stick to the highway code and know if the person standing on the pavement is waiting to cross or just having a chat with his mate.
How will the driver necessarily know…..there are so many variables that can come into play affecting this legislation.
You have even quite rightly illustrated one yourself as a matter of fact.0 -
If I were uncertain about the intention of the child, new rules or old rules, it is better to take no chances rather than risk hitting them.2
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seth plum said:If I were uncertain about the intention of the child, new rules or old rules, it is better to take no chances rather than risk hitting them.
Remember other confused traffic that is also held up into the bargain…..all at the behest/actions of a poorly unsupervised child!0 -
The answer is as long as it takes.
The question that follows is ‘what is the alternative’?
Sweep round the corner at speed?
As for unsupervised, well the ironic comment is that any fool (almost) can be a parent, yet you have to take a test to drive a car.1 -
Seems to be a lot of misunderstanding of the new rules. The Guardian published a useful corrective, excerpts below
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/24/common-myths-about-what-uk-highway-code-changes-will-meanCyclists won’t be “in the middle of the road”
One of the sillier weekend headlines, from the Sunday Times, suggested just this. And as I’m sure the headline writer knew well, the Highway Code simply says cyclists should use the centre of the lane, and even then only at certain times, for example approaching junctions or on narrow sections of roads, where a car overtaking would cause danger. This is a change to the code, but it’s not new, or even new guidance. Cyclists have been formally advised for years to take what is known as the “primary position” at such moments.
There is no new rule on riding two abreast
The new text just makes it clearer. The old version says people should “never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads”, which was slightly vague and a bit sweeping. The code will now say: “You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders.” Hopefully over time more drivers will understand why it can be safer. Note to the Sunday Times: the rules do not “encourage” riding two abreast.
There is no new rule on not having to use cycle lanes
Another slightly excitable paragraph from the Sunday Times story said that the new Highway Code would mean cyclists are no longer obliged to use bike lanes when one is provided. But this was the case anyway. The language has simply been made clearer, saying cyclists “may exercise their judgment and are not obliged to use them”.
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I’m not a cyclist, but chatted regularly with a keen one at work, he took the time to explain to me why cyclists would move to the middle of the road, not use cycle lanes and sometimes ride two abreast much as @Jints highlighted above.
It really does make a lot of sense for a vulnerable road user, and since been being made aware, it’s made me aware of how easy it is to follow to a cyclist to a safe over taking spot, and how many will know this is approaching and wave you through using their awareness of the hazard approaching on say, a narrow country lane. Take a look at the cycle lanes, particularly the coned off ones, they’re in a right state because the road sweeping machines can’t get to them, and no council is paying for manual cleaning of them!Of course there are arsehole cyclists, there are arsehole drivers and pedestrians too.6 -
iainment said:jimmymelrose said:Overall this thread is very interesting.
What it highlights to me is this new norm that people are responsible to more vulnerable people, without those people being asked to take any responsibility themselves.
For example, cycling with headphones on. Just who are these stupid people? I myself get annoyed with anyone in my family who doesn't put on a helmet, of which we have six or seven between us.I think it’s funny though that people in cars think this so awful. Do you always drive with the windows open, no radio on and a complete ban on conversation whilst driving? If not you are being a tad hypocritical.You say that like I only use my car.
When I drive I listen to music. I also give cyclists a wide berth.
When I cycle I don't.
Why? Because on a bicycle I know I am the vulnerable one and so I take responsibility for myself. As a pedestrian and cyclist you need to hear what's going on around you. This is not the case in a car - I would say that it's limited to hearing emergency services and other cars' horns.3 -
Went in to WH Smiths yesterday to try and buy a hard copy of the new Highway Code and was told -its not in shops until 11 April !!!!!!!! ??0
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Dennis_inthelastmin said:Went in to WH Smiths yesterday to try and buy a hard copy of the new Highway Code and was told -its not in shops until 11 April !!!!!!!! ??
seriously though. How can someone be prosecuted for a breach of the Highway Code if it isn’t available to the public ?0 -
Drivers should give cyclists 5 feet when overtaking under the new code. Is this much different from before. Out of interest what was it?0