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Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent
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This is genuinely what he's like as well apparently, as @Croydon said I bet he's quite arrogant to be around.Mendonca In Asdas said:
I think he must have cribbed these words from Haaland!
I don't know if any of you remember the Lavelle and Kirk impersonations video? And one of them when impersonating Fraser just kept saying something like 'I'm dead smart' and kept pointing at his head.
Must big himself up to his peers, which is fine if you're actually good at football
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I have been incredibly disapointed in him. I know he is better than what he is showing but if he can't show it we need to get rid.1
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like Kirk, pull up trees elsewhere, sign for Charlton for big fee and long contract, game turns to shit.
Think it's mentality for both. Big fish in small pond elsewhere at smaller clubs but can't hack it a bigger club when the pressure is on.0 -
We’ve had some crap over the last 10 years. But I detest him the most. He just doesn’t give a shit. Was more interested in catching up with former team mates than anything else after us getting hammered 6-0 at Ipswich. When he plays he is blowing out of his arse after 20 mins.The thing that annoys me the most is that has the ability to offer to much more. He just doesn’t seem bothered.7
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bit of luck we'll have some gullible manager putting in a big bid for him this January .. and more to the point, we'll accept it within seconds0
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I don’t think he does have the ability. I think he’s been found out after a decent season with MK Dons. Ipswich couldn’t wait to get rid of him, and they were building for promotion. Says it all imo. I hope he goes in the summer, but I expect he’s on about 5/6k a week which means he’ll be hard to shift. It’s either a move back up to Scotland when his contract expires, or he’ll be back at MK Dons with Gilbey, the two chinless wonders flapping and pointingBrownie12 said:We’ve had some crap over the last 10 years. But I detest him the most. He just doesn’t give a shit. Was more interested in catching up with former team mates than anything else after us getting hammered 6-0 at Ipswich. When he plays he is blowing out of his arse after 20 mins.The thing that annoys me the most is that has the ability to offer to much more. He just doesn’t seem bothered.5 -
Only club I could see doing it is Wrexham maybe, he fits the profile of the type of players they've been singing and they probably have the cash for itLincsaddick said:bit of luck we'll have some gullible manager putting in a big bid for him this January .. and more to the point, we'll accept it within seconds1 -
Share everyone's concern but to be fair to Fraser he never was, and never claimed to be, the dynamic hard-tackling defensive midfielder which is how he is being deployed by Appleton.
Doesn't explain his piss poor set pieces mind you.4 -
A few games as you say, he wasn’t consistent enough and was neither a goalscorer or a playmaker, yet didn’t have the legs or desire to get box to box.wmcf123 said:
Racon(!) was quite decent for a few games in both the championship and league one . Not seen anything from bloke . I wonder who invented the Pirlo thing - beyond being paid to play football, they have nothing in commonScoham said:
Very much like Semedo and Racon. Dobson like Semedo could play in a better side. Without the goals and assists of last season Fraser is like Racon, looks good on the ball occasionally but doesn’t offer enough.BigRedEvil said:Have we ever had such an ineffective midfield pairing as Fraser and Dobson. I can't believe we've stuck with it for so long? It'll be 2 years in January
Fraser offered more last season when he was a goal threat (nearly got into double figures) and added creativity to the team, we haven’t really seen from recently.0 -
Could see him going back to Scotland.Lincsaddick said:bit of luck we'll have some gullible manager putting in a big bid for him this January .. and more to the point, we'll accept it within seconds
He would be better if we played him in the number 10 role like we did last season (where he did chip in with 9 goals). He should be the attacking mid threading through balls for Alfie May’s runs (he’s wasted in the deeper role Appleton puts him in).
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It is true that the way we are playing doesn't suit him. I have turned from a give Appleton a chance view to a get rid one as he doesn't seem to see what is front of him. I am minded of Pardew, who we have to be honest and say, he was a decent manager with many of his clubs but just lost the plot with us and Appleton seems to have done so with us too. He has been posed difficult questions with injuries and I have no problem with him trying things but he has to see when they are not working and Fraser is a case in point.1
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To be honest I think we do tend to move the ball a little better now. Some of the football under Jackson after he became full time manager was horrific - I remember us constantly getting pinned in the corners with like 3/4 of our players standing right next to each other.The Prince-e-Paul said:
Two years and your views can't have changed much!FishCostaFortune said:"Very pleased with this signing."
"a lot of the time we are one of the most uninspiring teams in the league (even Hartlepool and Gateshead moved the ball better than us) when we have the ball at our feet."On Fraser, he has definitely not lived up to expectations sadly, though 9 goals and 5 assists last year is not to bad at all.This year he is being asked to play in a double pivot with Dobson, which is just not his game. He does not have the physicality to be successful in that role, and when he is having to drop back in the CB position there’s no wonder we are not seeing him create as much.
I do think he’s talented player, but our recruitment has been so poor in recent years we just don’t have the right players to let individuals excel in their proper positions.0 -
i think they’ve already done a deal to sell him in January - most likely to a Scottish team1
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Is that based on a tip off, or just the fact that he’s not in the squad tonight and he’s Scottish?alburyaddick said:i think they’ve already done a deal to sell him in January - most likely to a Scottish team0 -
Weren't Peterborough interested at one time?alburyaddick said:i think they’ve already done a deal to sell him in January - most likely to a Scottish team
Swap for JCH?1 -
It’s a complete guess on the grounds that we need to change up the midfield urgently and he has to go and a fit Fraser has a little bit of resale value nowse9addick said:
Is that based on a tip off, or just the fact that he’s not in the squad tonight and he’s Scottish?alburyaddick said:i think they’ve already done a deal to sell him in January - most likely to a Scottish team0 -
Has Fraser’s absence against Bristol Rovers been confirmed as an injury? (or could he be on the move)0
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Don’t get my hopes up 😉. From the OS yesterday ‘The Jamaican international (Anderson) replaces Scott Fraser, who misses out with a minor calf issue’ but who knows for real 🤷♂️.Oh Eddie Youds... said:Has Fraser’s absence against Bristol Rovers been confirmed as an injury? (or could he be on the move)0 -
It would demonstrate that the new owners mean business (& the start of a serious overhaul) if they have lined up a deal for him to depart.
Guess we’ll soon see how things pan out & how true the mystery calf issue is.0 -
Jimmy Cloyd Hasslebaink?Richard J said:
Weren't Peterborough interested at one time?alburyaddick said:i think they’ve already done a deal to sell him in January - most likely to a Scottish team
Swap for JCH?0 - Sponsored links:
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Going by his social media, he seems to be putting more effort into getting a painter decorator in the Dundee area for his latest property renovation, rather than his football at the moment.0
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It is amazing how Fraser has gone from being the signing everyone wanted , to a scapegoat in two years.
Fwiw I think he could thrive in the right system with decent players around him.0 -
He's been a nothing player for us. His cameo the other day summed him up. One corner and cross didn't beat the first man and another he couldn't even keep it in play7
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I don't think he's a scapegoat tbf, just fucking useless, and I think the majority of fans feel the same. He's clearly got some ability as he can ping a pass and grab the odd goal but he's a passenger 90% off the time. His corners a fucking awful too...either fails to beat the 1st man, over hits them for a throw on or curls them out of play! What does this guy do all week FFS! I've lost my patience with the fella, he's just so frustrating to watch. He's coasting along and probably earning a lot of money for minimal effort6
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Nothing scape goat about it. He’s been shocking in a Charlton shirt, totally off it and no where near the player he once was. 100% get rid.Richard J said:It is amazing how Fraser has gone from being the signing everyone wanted , to a scapegoat in two years.
Fwiw I think he could thrive in the right system with decent players around him.11 -
Personally, I think he’s a much better player than is being suggested by many (particularly Cobbles), but there’s no doubt he’s out of form at the moment and that movement for the goal on Saturday has magnified it.11
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Take it, it weren't you who gave me the promote for declaring he was "f*ckin sh1t" in the match thread then? lolAFKABartram said:Personally, I think he’s a much better player than is being suggested by many (particularly Cobbles), but there’s no doubt he’s out of form at the moment and that movement for the goal on Saturday has magnified it.
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I genuinely got behind him when he was signed. I thought good signing, and was excited, but as his time has progressed, I think he epitomizes everything wrong with the players we’ve bought in over the years. It’s not just him. Stockley wound me up something chronic before we let him go last season. Matthews and Inniss as well. They all seemed to start okay, but deteriorated very quickly. I think my patience is shot as well now given how long this malaise has gone on. Like a lot of us, we’re less tolerant of poor performances.AFKABartram said:Personally, I think he’s a much better player than is being suggested by many (particularly Cobbles), but there’s no doubt he’s out of form at the moment and that movement for the goal on Saturday has magnified it.
The fact he’s reportedly one of our higher earners as well given what he was on at Ipswich winds me up as well. I usually don’t care about that sort of thing, but he gives off the impression he’s not putting a shift in.2 -
If he really did diddle a baby cow then he deserved to be dropped imho.RedChaser said:
Don’t get my hopes up 😉. From the OS yesterday ‘The Jamaican international (Anderson) replaces Scott Fraser, who misses out with a minor calf issue’ but who knows for real 🤷♂️.Oh Eddie Youds... said:Has Fraser’s absence against Bristol Rovers been confirmed as an injury? (or could he be on the move)3 -
Worst of the worst in the squad. I'll die on that hill
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