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Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent

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  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    Cloudworm said:
    When we have possession, he hides. What's happened to him? 
    Finding someone to play his position in January should be the priority and will transform us as a team. Genuinely doesn’t impact the game either attacking or when defending. A passenger for most of those 90 mins.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    We’ve got backwards over the last few months. We looked promising when Louie Watson was starting ahead of him. Fraser has been part of that and he doesn’t look like the player who nearly scored double figures last season.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    Scoham said:
    We’ve got backwards over the last few months. We looked promising when Louie Watson was starting ahead of him. Fraser has been part of that and he doesn’t look like the player who nearly scored double figures last season.
    I don’t have time to run the stats, but I’ve been thinking for a while that things started to go down hill with the away defeat at Lincoln which I think was Fraser’s first start and it’s been getting worse since he’s been starting regularly. 

    Correlation isn’t always causation and he can’t be held responsible for everything but I just don’t really see what he is bringing to the side or why Watson, who was playing well, has been dropped for him. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,492
    Watson has two poor games and is frozen out + Fraser has god knows how many and retains his place = Appleton is a fool. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,350
    He always takes the easy option, even when there are options to play forwards. He slows the game down and goes sideways. No bravery. Should be taking games by the scruff of the neck and dragging us into them. Instead he's a bystander. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,519
    edited December 2023
    League one's best playmaker, proper mustard, Rolls Royce, Pirlo etc etc.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,871
    CL_Phantom said:
    League one's best playmaker, proper mustard, Rolls Royce, Pirlo etc etc.
    The comparison with Pirlo is a good one, and pretty accurate. Neither of them have had a good game in years.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Scoham said:
    We’ve got backwards over the last few months. We looked promising when Louie Watson was starting ahead of him. Fraser has been part of that and he doesn’t look like the player who nearly scored double figures last season.
    I don’t have time to run the stats, but I’ve been thinking for a while that things started to go down hill with the away defeat at Lincoln which I think was Fraser’s first start and it’s been getting worse since he’s been starting regularly. 

    Correlation isn’t always causation and he can’t be held responsible for everything but I just don’t really see what he is bringing to the side or why Watson, who was playing well, has been dropped for him. 
    We haven’t won a game in which Fraser started in the 2 next to Dobson, his only win was when we scraped past Cheltenham but Louie Watson started in a 3 with him and Dobson. 

    Basically it’s blindingly obvious that picking Fraser over Watson has been a terrible idea, unless you are Michael Appleton 
  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,791
    CAFCBourne said:
    Luxary player very good footballer but you need to do both the flash and the ugly.
    Still feel the same well maybe just a decent footballer. Never known a Scotsman to be so passive 
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Not enough intensity

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  • Carl_bratton
    Carl_bratton Posts: 68
    Fella offers nothing positive to this side.

    Set pieces - crap, straight at the keeper
    Engine - non existent and slows everything down again when he gets on the ball
    Tackle - shirks them all
    Leadership - goes hiding. Watch next game, when we have a throw he goes over the other side of the pitch and stays out the game
    Defending - stands there waving his arms (tbf a lot of them do this)
    Desire and commitment - no hope there 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,075
    Have we ever had such an ineffective midfield pairing as Fraser and Dobson. I can't believe we've stuck with it for so long? It'll be 2 years in January 
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,023
    I’m sure his reputation isn’t actually based on anything he’s done for Charlton. He’s still living off that game for MK 3 years ago. If he left in January I’d be pleased but he’s another player who will stay put because no other club will offer the wages we give him. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,735
    He's everything wrong with this current squad, summed up in one man.

    Over inflated ego, on too much money, almost always shit, but delivers something every so often that keeps a portion of the fanbase thinking he'll come good. 

    Bet he's a proper drip to hang around with as well. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    BigRedEvil said:
    Have we ever had such an ineffective midfield pairing as Fraser and Dobson. I can't believe we've stuck with it for so long? It'll be 2 years in January 
    Very much like Semedo and Racon. Dobson like Semedo could play in a better side. Without the goals and assists of last season Fraser is like Racon, looks good on the ball occasionally but doesn’t offer enough.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Play him 10 or not at all!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Cloudworm said:
    When we have possession, he hides. What's happened to him? 
    He doesn't have the fitness/energy to play a full game, so hides because he needs to rest. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    Technically good but besides that, he offers nothing. Even with him being okay on the ball, he doesnt fancy it and often goes missing. 

    Bin him off and replace him with someone who can pass and run! 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    NB the Follow Follow song about Fraser the Scottish Pirlo makes me want to puke.
    Stop singing it or change the words, it's so idiotic. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Remember this?

    What happened?

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,641
    Tbf he did actually have a shot against Orient....that the keeper actually had to dive for & make a save. 

    A goal is a coming......
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    edited December 2023
    JamesSeed said:
    Remember this?

    What happened?
    Words mate - "I consider myself to have the biggest schlong and last the longest in the South East"

    Reality is it's a 2 inch wonder and I'm 10 seconds, including the glass of wine and fag at the end.....
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    killerandflash said:
    Our best creative player, though whether he's good enough is I guess debatable. Slightly worrying that McKenna at Ipswich was happy to be rid of him.
    Well what does he know. I'm sure Ipswich players are stealing a living in the Championship and would struggle to get o Charlton's bench. How are they doing these days?? 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,652
    I think he must have cribbed these words from Haaland!
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    edited December 2023
    FishCostaFortune said:"Very pleased with this signing." 

     "a lot of the time we are one of the most uninspiring teams in the league (even Hartlepool and Gateshead moved the ball better than us) when we have the ball at our feet."
    Two years and your views can't have changed much!
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    edited December 2023
    Scoham said:
    BigRedEvil said:
    Have we ever had such an ineffective midfield pairing as Fraser and Dobson. I can't believe we've stuck with it for so long? It'll be 2 years in January 
    Very much like Semedo and Racon. Dobson like Semedo could play in a better side. Without the goals and assists of last season Fraser is like Racon, looks good on the ball occasionally but doesn’t offer enough.
    Racon(!) was quite decent for a few games in both the championship and league one .  Not seen anything from bloke .  I wonder who invented the Pirlo thing - beyond being paid to play football, they have nothing in common 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,492
    wmcf123 said:
    Scoham said:
    BigRedEvil said:
    Have we ever had such an ineffective midfield pairing as Fraser and Dobson. I can't believe we've stuck with it for so long? It'll be 2 years in January 
    Very much like Semedo and Racon. Dobson like Semedo could play in a better side. Without the goals and assists of last season Fraser is like Racon, looks good on the ball occasionally but doesn’t offer enough.
    Racism was quite decent for a few games in both the championship and league one .  Not seen anything from bloke .  I wonder who invented the Pirlo thing - beyond being paid to play football, they have nothing in common 

  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Talal said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Scoham said:
    BigRedEvil said:
    Have we ever had such an ineffective midfield pairing as Fraser and Dobson. I can't believe we've stuck with it for so long? It'll be 2 years in January 
    Very much like Semedo and Racon. Dobson like Semedo could play in a better side. Without the goals and assists of last season Fraser is like Racon, looks good on the ball occasionally but doesn’t offer enough.
    Racism was quite decent for a few games in both the championship and league one .  Not seen anything from bloke .  I wonder who invented the Pirlo thing - beyond being paid to play football, they have nothing in common 

    Ha - apologies !
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    I’m shocked by how poor he has been he should be bossing things on the front foot but he just stops anything happening by being so slow and passing backwards or at best sideways. No way he should be starting going on his last few games
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,228
    I always thought he was one of our better players, but no doubt, he has been crap this season. Id have Watson starting over him all day

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