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  • how on earth is matt parkinson not worth a call up? Must've pissed in everyone's cornflakes on that windies tour
  • I would have liked to see Matt Parkinson in the squad and I think Brook should play ahead of Bairstow, who has played  no red ball  cricket this season, not sure about Pope at 3
  • Overton, Crawley and Leach need to go 
  • Is it normal to announce the squad so early, 2 weeks before the 1st Test? There's a round of CC games starting tomorrow, so does it mean the England players will be pulled out?
  • Overton, Crawley and Leach need to go 
    Agree on Crawley and Leach, but Overton had a good start to the season
  • Leach has also had a good start to the season tbf. I'd have picked him AND Parkinson in the squad, had a good look at both. Crawley...I don't know what to say really 
  • crawley scored a century on the last tour... what's the problem?
  • Until we find 2 openers we are really going to struggle.  We haven't replaced Strauss yet, let alone Cook.

    Surprised Sam Robson hasn't been given another chance.
  • edited May 2022
    crawley scored a century on the last tour... what's the problem?
    A Test average of 28.60 from 38 innings
    A First Class average of 30.39 from 132 innings
    A total of 156 from 8 innings at an average of 19.50 in First Class cricket this season on exactly the same pitches that his opening partner. Ben Compton, has scored 670 runs from 9 innings at an average of 95.71

    I doubt whether too many opening bats have been picked for England with one of those stats let alone all three.

    I'm also not suggesting that England are sticking with Crawley because of their relationship but it probably hasn't helped him that Key was originally promoting him on Sky (Nasser used to call him "your boy") because he has known him since he was very young and is best mates with his dad, the multi millionaire Terry - so much so that in the middle of Key's biography there is a picture of the two with Warne and Ponting with the caption "Golf with Warne, Ponting and Crawley (the game drain). The Aussies have never beaten Crawley and I". 
  • edited May 2022
    On another subject, it really is time that England looked at abolishing Central Contracts and rewarding players with a much higher remuneration for making squads and for playing. We are only half way through this year but look at what has happened to those that are on the list:

    Moeen Ali (Worcestershire) - playing in IPL
    James Anderson (Lancashire) - dropped for recent tour
    Jofra Archer (Sussex) - injured
    Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire) - playing in IPL but selected for England having not played a single red ball match since March
    Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire) - dropped for recent tour
    Rory Burns (Surrey) - dropped
    Jos Buttler (Lancashire) - playing in IPL
    Zak Crawley (Kent) - playing in CC but totally out of form
    Sam Curran (Surrey) - dropped and injured
    Jack Leach (Somerset)
    Dawid Malan (Yorkshire) - dropped 
    Eoin Morgan (Middlesex)
    Ollie Pope (Surrey)
    Adil Rashid (Yorkshire)
    Ollie Robinson (Sussex) - dropped/injured
    Joe Root (Yorkshire)
    Jason Roy (Surrey) - banned
    Ben Stokes (Durham)
    Chris Woakes (Warwickshire) - injured
    Mark Wood (Durham) - injured

    England Increment Contracts

    Dom Bess (Yorkshire) - not selected in last 14 months
    Tom Curran (Surrey) - injured
    Chris Jordan (Surrey) - at IPL but not playing
    Liam Livingstone (Lancashire) - injured

    England Pace Bowling Development Contracts

    Saqib Mahmood (Lancashire) - injured
    Craig Overton (Somerset)
    Olly Stone (Warwickshire) - injured

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  • Well nobody can accuse Rob Key of going with obvious choices for the 2 coaching positions.    First Brendon McCullum & now this.  I've never even heard of this guy:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445433
  • Well nobody can accuse Rob Key of going with obvious choices for the 2 coaching positions.    First Brendon McCullum & now this.  I've never even heard of this guy:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445433
    great appointment, aussie women have been unstoppable recently.
  • Well nobody can accuse Rob Key of going with obvious choices for the 2 coaching positions.    First Brendon McCullum & now this.  I've never even heard of this guy:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445433
    great appointment, aussie women have been unstoppable recently.
    Not saying it's a bad appointment, it just took me by surprise, as did the McCullum appointment (which is probably a good thing).  
  • Havent commented on this yet but with Root no longer captain I really feel like he should bat 3 now. I'm disappointed that Stokes has said he will bat 4. I got it when he was captain but without that pressure he really should be at 3. Its one of our biggest problem positions whereas I could pick about 20 players who could do a job at 4/5. 

    We now effectively need to find 3 players from nowhere to form a complete top 3. not likely.
  • Havent commented on this yet but with Root no longer captain I really feel like he should bat 3 now. I'm disappointed that Stokes has said he will bat 4. I got it when he was captain but without that pressure he really should be at 3. Its one of our biggest problem positions whereas I could pick about 20 players who could do a job at 4/5. 

    We now effectively need to find 3 players from nowhere to form a complete top 3. not likely.
    Agreed; Root and Stokes should be 3 and 4, with a new batter- Brook, for me, and Bairstow at 6. 
  • wmcf123 said:
    Havent commented on this yet but with Root no longer captain I really feel like he should bat 3 now. I'm disappointed that Stokes has said he will bat 4. I got it when he was captain but without that pressure he really should be at 3. Its one of our biggest problem positions whereas I could pick about 20 players who could do a job at 4/5. 

    We now effectively need to find 3 players from nowhere to form a complete top 3. not likely.
    Agreed; Root and Stokes should be 3 and 4, with a new batter- Brook, for me, and Bairstow at 6. 
    I'm happy enough with Stokes at 6 as captain. We have plenty of middle order players who can bat 4 or 5 and will do well as long as we have a decent platform. 
  • wmcf123 said:
    Havent commented on this yet but with Root no longer captain I really feel like he should bat 3 now. I'm disappointed that Stokes has said he will bat 4. I got it when he was captain but without that pressure he really should be at 3. Its one of our biggest problem positions whereas I could pick about 20 players who could do a job at 4/5. 

    We now effectively need to find 3 players from nowhere to form a complete top 3. not likely.
    Agreed; Root and Stokes should be 3 and 4, with a new batter- Brook, for me, and Bairstow at 6. 
    I'm happy enough with Stokes at 6 as captain. We have plenty of middle order players who can bat 4 or 5 and will do well as long as we have a decent platform. 
    I actually think that batting Stokes at higher than 6 inhibits his natural game at Test level. But I am looking forward to seeing Pope bat at 3 ;-)
  • wmcf123 said:
    Havent commented on this yet but with Root no longer captain I really feel like he should bat 3 now. I'm disappointed that Stokes has said he will bat 4. I got it when he was captain but without that pressure he really should be at 3. Its one of our biggest problem positions whereas I could pick about 20 players who could do a job at 4/5. 

    We now effectively need to find 3 players from nowhere to form a complete top 3. not likely.
    Agreed; Root and Stokes should be 3 and 4, with a new batter- Brook, for me, and Bairstow at 6. 
    I'm happy enough with Stokes at 6 as captain. We have plenty of middle order players who can bat 4 or 5 and will do well as long as we have a decent platform. 
    I actually think that batting Stokes at higher than 6 inhibits his natural game at Test level. But I am looking forward to seeing Pope bat at 3 ;-)
    Completely agree, also gives him a chance of rest after bowling. Although probably only a couple of extra overs knowing England
  • edited May 2022
    Stokes is far better than an attacking No 6 though, as he can also play "solid" Test innings. What you don't want is (after a night watchman has been used) Stokes coming in at 7 and being stuck with the tail, where few other than Leach can stick around and defend
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  • Is it normal to announce the squad so early, 2 weeks before the 1st Test? There's a round of CC games starting tomorrow, so does it mean the England players will be pulled out?
    Crawley is in the Kent squad for this week's game which answers that question (certainly as a blanket rule)
  • edited May 2022
    top wicket taker and top run maker are selected .. at least the selectors are picking on form, but probably only because their hands have been forced .. be interesting to see who gets the poisoned chalice job at number 3
  • top wicket taker and top runr maker are selected .. at least the selectors are picking on form, but probably only because their hands have been forced .. be interesting to see who gets the poisoned chalice job at number 3
    Root 3
    Pope 4
    That's what I  would like to see. 
  • all the young tyro fast(ish) bowlers have been struck down with various maladies .. but like old Father Thames, the aging pace twins, A&B just keep rolling along
  • top wicket taker and top runr maker are selected .. at least the selectors are picking on form, but probably only because their hands have been forced .. be interesting to see who gets the poisoned chalice job at number 3
    Root 3
    Pope 4
    That's what I  would like to see. 
    it has been decided (probably by Root) that he will NO WAY bat at 3 .. probably be down to the new boy Brook or Pope
  • Matty Mott, ex Aussie women's coach is the new England (men's) white ball cricket coach .. all antipodeans in charge, skipper ( though he has been in UK a looong time) and both coaches
  • top wicket taker and top runr maker are selected .. at least the selectors are picking on form, but probably only because their hands have been forced .. be interesting to see who gets the poisoned chalice job at number 3
    Root 3
    Pope 4
    That's what I  would like to see. 
    it has been decided (probably by Root) that he will NO WAY bat at 3 .. probably be down to the new boy Brook or Pope
    Root has seen Crawley's form, and doesn't fancy coming in to bat in the 3rd over...
  • The only difference between 3 and 4, if Root bats at 3, is he comes in a 8 for 1 or 12 for 2 about 12 balls apart.  At least if he is at 3 number 4 might come in at 50 odd for 2.
  • Archer is out for the season after another setback. 
  • Archer is out for the season after another setback. 
    Is that two full seasons he’s been out for? I really think root overbowled him when he broke through 
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