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Name change for a country.

seth plumseth plum
edited February 2022 in Not Sports Related
The place we have hitherto called Turkey is officially changing it’s name to (I don’t know how to put an umlaut on the ‘u’) Turkiye.
It is now a three syllable pronunciation  “tur-kay-ah”.
One reason given (well two of them actually) is to lessen the association with the bird, and also something being a ‘turkey’ being a dud.
The football connection is we once played some ‘friendlies’ over in Turkiye.
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    Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    I thought it was always "Turkiye" internally but they used "Turkey" externally.

    Now they want to use "Turkiye" externally. 
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    SporadicAddickSporadicAddick
    Not an uncommon phenomena, but perhaps with more robust reasons than similarity to a Christmas dinner..

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/country-names/country-name-changes-in-hmg-use-1919-to-2020
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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60337147

    As "Turkey" annoys Erdogan, that's a tempting reason to continue to use it...It'll be interesting whether this is something which the people agree with.
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    golfaddickgolfaddick
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
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    JonniestaJonniesta
    golfaddick said:

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.
    That's because people think they're chicken
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    SomervilleAddickSomervilleAddick
    Having dealt with this multiple times, I wonder what the point is. 

    It’s one thing to completely rename a country (Burma - Myanmar) but demanding other countries and languages use your local version seems petty. Anyone for Suomi?
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    captainbobcaptainbob
    golfaddick said:
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    Too right, Golfie. Bloody foreigners. None of that nonsense here in Englaland.
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    PrincessFionaPrincessFiona
    captainbob said:
    golfaddick said:
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    Too right, Golfie. Bloody foreigners. None of that nonsense here in Englaland.
    Kazakhstan changed the capital from Almaty to Astana. Didn't know until the other day they have renamed Astana to Nursultan.

    The UK changed to use the more politically/historically correct names form major cities in India. 

    In South Africa they are reverting Tshwane, the named in a local language

    And I think some countries (Germany) still use Peking instead of Beijing

    As Golfie says, you get the gist
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    RizzoRizzo
    golfaddick said:
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    I remember during the Euros last year one of the commentators saying such and such a player played for Di-nar-mow Keev. Back in my day that was Die-ner-mow Key-ev! 
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    Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    Singer FC

    Thames Ironworks FC

    Small Heath Alliance FC

    Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway FC

    Glad we don't have any of the that name changing in our game.
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    Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    SporadicAddick said:
    Not an uncommon phenomena, but perhaps with more robust reasons than similarity to a Christmas dinner..

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/country-names/country-name-changes-in-hmg-use-1919-to-2020
    Great list, love stuff like this.


    Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya became simply Libya

    Bet that was a pain to get in a chant of the terraces in Tripoli.



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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    Cordoban Addick said:
    golfaddick said:
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    It will always be Byzantium for the purists (like me).
    Welcome to Charlton Life Boris
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    sam3110sam3110
    Eswantini is another one, we used to know it as Swaziland, similarly Macedonia is now North Macedonia, Czech Republic want to be known as Czechia, and Cape Verde are reverting to the old Portuguese name of Cabo Verde. 
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    ChizzChizz
    We shouldn't have to put up with all these name changes. Someone needs to make an (Alan Curbishley) stand. 
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    ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    Isnt Ivory Coast known as Cote D'Ivorie? 
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    cafcfancafcfan
    Yeah but why is it still called Ceylon tea?
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    LincsaddickLincsaddick
    or as the Noi Yoikers would say .. it's a fecking toikey .. 

     but seriously lots of countries changed name to throw off the final yoke of colonialism and in the case of Ivory Coast the Cote D' is simply Francophoning the name of what is a French speaking country .. the D R Congo seems to change its name every time a new government or new tribe takes power
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    Cordoban AddickCordoban Addick
    killerandflash said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    golfaddick said:
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    It will always be Byzantium for the purists (like me).
    Welcome to Charlton Life Boris
    Oi, I will be seeing you over at Makros (formerly called cash & carry) car park.
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    EastTerraceEastTerrace
    It is now a three syllable pronunciation  “tur-kay-ah”.

    Who decided that? Mark E Smith?
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    North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Is rhe Czech Republic still slowly trying to move to being called Czechia?
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    LincsaddickLincsaddick
    North Lower Neil said:
    Is rhe Czech Republic still slowly trying to move to being called Czechia?
    it is .. and that was a recent(ish) answer on Pointless .. first I had heard of it
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    SantaClausSantaClaus
    I vaguely remember the Daily Telegraph being siller buggers by refusing to refer to Peking as Beijing for a long time after the name was changed. They might have done the same thing with Bombay/Mumbai too. 
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