One jarring note is that, in looking for a CEO to take over in due course, TS wants one that he is certain would make exactly the same decisions as himself. He has a worrying tendency to believe his perspective is the correct one at all times. A truly enlightened, successful leader would be open to discussion, consideration and appreciation of other views - and doing things differently.
Excellent point @Davo55 ... and one that ties in with the inability to delegate.
Self-belief is one thing. Arrogance is another.
Especially when you haven't achieved anything in football yet. I've said that I don't doubt he has worked hard up to a point, but to me part of working hard is also listening to people. I wish he worked smarter not harder and just kept things SIMPLE
Watched the first 10 minutes or so and I thought his body language was shocking whilst answering the first question. He looked awkward, vague and struggling to put together an answer. Bit like am MP on BBC news in the morning.
It looks like the whole thing is wearing him down and I suspect he thought we would be further advanced than where we are.
I think our current best players (all 4 of them?!) are obvious squad back-ups for a serious promotion challenging side. Altho Dobson should start. Hopefully players like Washington and Gilbey would improve with better around them and claim their places.
The likes of Matthews, Gunter, Pearce, Famewo, MacGillvary, Leko, Lee, Jaiyesimi, Aneke (I could go on) should be nowhere near next season's squad if we are serious about promotion.
I think this is spot on.
Problem is, Sandgaard would disagree completely. He thinks we are a whisker away from top 2 next season and simply need improvements in infrastructure and individual coaching.
I think our current best players (all 4 of them?!) are obvious squad back-ups for a serious promotion challenging side. Altho Dobson should start. Hopefully players like Washington and Gilbey would improve with better around them and claim their places.
The likes of Matthews, Gunter, Pearce, Famewo, MacGillvary, Leko, Lee, Jaiyesimi, Aneke (I could go on) should be nowhere near next season's squad if we are serious about promotion.
I think this is spot on.
Problem is, Sandgaard would disagree completely. He thinks we are a whisker away from top 2 next season and simply need improvements in infrastructure and individual coaching.
He thought we had enough before the season started. The major issue is if he came to that conclusion himself what will stop it happening again.
I think our current best players (all 4 of them?!) are obvious squad back-ups for a serious promotion challenging side. Altho Dobson should start. Hopefully players like Washington and Gilbey would improve with better around them and claim their places.
The likes of Matthews, Gunter, Pearce, Famewo, MacGillvary, Leko, Lee, Jaiyesimi, Aneke (I could go on) should be nowhere near next season's squad if we are serious about promotion.
I think this is spot on.
Problem is, Sandgaard would disagree completely. He thinks we are a whisker away from top 2 next season and simply need improvements in infrastructure and individual coaching.
He thought we had enough before the season started. The major issue is if he came to that conclusion himself what will stop it happening again.
Listened to the whole interview. Never commented as everything he said before we have before in various interviews and articles etc. Wasn’t anything new from TS. Not critical of TS at all, just don’t think I learnt anything new.
Except he got the hump again when the previous debt question came up. He backtracked on what he said previously and said anyone can look it up. We accrued £100M of debt in the 10 years prior to his takeover (or something like that for the pedantic).
That’s not true either.
I think the operating losses from 2010 onwards would amount to about £100m, but as his original purpose was clearly to criticise the previous board and exclude Duchatelet that’s hardly the point.
Once you add the player trading it’s more like £70m anyway.
Really surprised at some of the comments regarding Purro on this thread.
Earlier this season he was in his natural position defending well, getting forward and even managed a couple of goals, then got some unknown reason Jackson dropped him for the league games and played him in the cup then recently he has played him out of position at CB.
Play him in his natural LB position and we have a very good player.
Without a shadow of a doubt he should be getting a new contract
You know interest has really dropped off this season when no one has commented.
One of the most positive things is about 7 minutes in when TS says there might be a few out of contract players we’ll talk about extending. I’ll be concerned if we keep Matthews, Inniss, Pearce and Purrington, there’s a good case for releasing all four.
Not watched it, and to be honest can't be bothered to watch it, but that to me is neither a positive or negative, but just normal.
Indeed if there are players we want to keep, it could be argued that we should have done it by now rather than waiting until late March
Ideally but it’s normal at this level, the players you want to keep are likely to be the ones hoping for a Championship move or at least in no rush to sign to get the best possible deal.
I keep banging on about it but right now I'd be sticking a 3+ year deal under Dobsons nose.
Really surprised at some of the comments regarding Purro on this thread.
Earlier this season he was in his natural position defending well, getting forward and even managed a couple of goals, then got some unknown reason Jackson dropped him for the league games and played him in the cup then recently he has played him out of position at CB.
Play him in his natural LB position and we have a very good player.
Without a shadow of a doubt he should be getting a new contract
We don't play with a LB anymore.
He's a player that doesn't have a role in the squad so what's the point?
Really surprised at some of the comments regarding Purro on this thread.
Earlier this season he was in his natural position defending well, getting forward and even managed a couple of goals, then got some unknown reason Jackson dropped him for the league games and played him in the cup then recently he has played him out of position at CB.
Play him in his natural LB position and we have a very good player.
Without a shadow of a doubt he should be getting a new contract
We don't play with a LB anymore.
He's a player that doesn't have a role in the squad so what's the point?
Really surprised at some of the comments regarding Purro on this thread.
Earlier this season he was in his natural position defending well, getting forward and even managed a couple of goals, then got some unknown reason Jackson dropped him for the league games and played him in the cup then recently he has played him out of position at CB.
Play him in his natural LB position and we have a very good player.
Without a shadow of a doubt he should be getting a new contract
We don't play with a LB anymore.
He's a player that doesn't have a role in the squad so what's the point?
So let's get rid of our only player who plays at LB and keep playing 5 at the back then when we either realise 5 at the back doesn't work next season and jacko is forced to change or gets sacked and a new manager comes in we don't have a LB.
Makes sense 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
No matter what u need a LB, even if we are not playing with one atm, if we don't have one we are unadapatable
I watched the interview and the first observation was how bad he looked, he’s visibly aged in the last 18 months, are the long days taking its toll? His tone and body language also weren’t great.
Across this interview and the fans forum notes the were a couple of observations I made, firstly he’s now just trotting out and repeating the same old sound bites.
But also my alarm bells were ringing at the points made about the CEO has to make the same decisions I would, the comments that I’m too old to change and even that he wouldn’t consider replacing ATV with London’s Calling only incorporating both.
These I think give an insight into his leadership style - very much i’m always right and and I won’t listen or change.
This worries me as the point of the CEO & SMT is to use other expertise and opinions.
Hopefully this summer he proves himself right or finds the magic formula because otherwise I think this stubbornness could see us struggle for years
It’s all opinion and some of us are of the opinion that we have 5-6 players that we can build a team around and some of us are of the opinion the 5-6 is 2 or 3 and that the ones we think are part of that 5-6 are squad players at best.
For me, it’s unlikely, but we need 5-6 high quality first team signings in the summer, that includes 2 full backs, 2 centre backs, a wide player and a top quality forward.
Depending on Jackson’s set up, if we go 3-5-2 or 4-x-x, I only really feel with Dobson and Fraser he has the nucleus of a promotion pairing for central midfield. I’m not even sure about Stockley, Aneke and Washington if he re-signs. I’m certainly not sure about the wing back system with just CBT seemingly the only one who has performed adequately. Then at centre back, I feel Clare is okay and I am willing to give Lavelle more time and Inniss the chance to prove his fitness (again), but I can’t be sure.
For TS. I think this season has been a big learning curve and I hope he’s learned a lot and can adapt. For context, I went to see Orient play today as my cousin supports them and writes the fanzine. He’s relatively close to the set up there and he was telling me about a model of promotion every 3-4 years. At the end of next season they will be at the end of their 4th season in League 2. He told me about the set up and that they have U.S investors and a chairman who is an Orient fan. The Chairman gets the club and understands the limitations, but he feels the other investors don’t. His opinion of course, but I thought it was an interesting take.
We can’t fault TS’ financial input, but this summer is huge for him and us. I don’t expect anything more of him in terms of stumping up more money. Why should he? We don’t have a right to expect the sort of investment he’s put in. However, he also needs to realise, structural changes need to happen and if we don’t add 5/6 quality players, it won’t be enough.
If we want to be challenging to be a top 2 side next season, we need 10 more wins than we’ve currently got, not impossible, but it needs a radical shakeup.
It’s all opinion and some of us are of the opinion that we have 5-6 players that we can build a team around and some of us are of the opinion the 5-6 is 2 or 3 and that the ones we think are part of that 5-6 are squad players at best.
For me, it’s unlikely, but we need 5-6 high quality first team signings in the summer, that includes 2 full backs, 2 centre backs, a wide player and a top quality forward.
Depending on Jackson’s set up, if we go 3-5-2 or 4-x-x, I only really feel with Dobson and Fraser he has the nucleus of a promotion pairing for central midfield. I’m not even sure about Stockley, Aneke and Washington if he re-signs. I’m certainly not sure about the wing back system with just CBT seemingly the only one who has performed adequately. Then at centre back, I feel Clare is okay and I am willing to give Lavelle more time and Inniss the chance to prove his fitness (again), but I can’t be sure.
For TS. I think this season has been a big learning curve and I hope he’s learned a lot and can adapt. For context, I went to see Orient play today as my cousin supports them and writes the fanzine. He’s relatively close to the set up there and he was telling me about a model of promotion every 3-4 years. At the end of next season they will be at the end of their 4th season in League 2. He told me about the set up and that they have U.S investors and a chairman who is an Orient fan. The Chairman gets the club and understands the limitations, but he feels the other investors don’t. His opinion of course, but I thought it was an interesting take.
We can’t fault TS’ financial input, but this summer is huge for him and us. I don’t expect anything more of him in terms of stumping up more money. Why should he? We don’t have a right to expect the sort of investment he’s put in. However, he also needs to realise, structural changes need to happen and if we don’t add 5/6 quality players, it won’t be enough.
Because we’d probably go bust if he doesn’t and he will lose what he’s already put in (if he hasn’t already). I’m not talking about squad investment but we will never close the operating deficit in the EFL, and certainly not in L1, other than through windfall transfer profits.
Even if the average (paid) gate rose by 10,000, it’s likely we’d still lose £4m a year (if the current gap is £8m).
My overall feeling is that I feel sorry for him really. He seems like such an open, frank person who's trying his best. The question is whether his best is good enough. My conclusion is that we'll need another 2 seasons of mediocrity while he works out realistically what to do about things, at which point he'll either sell the club, or make changes and be successful. I'm not expecting anything good to happen on the pitch with TS as owner until about 2024-25, if ever. Sorry to be so golfified.
My overall feeling is that I feel sorry for him really. He seems like such an open, frank person who's trying his best. The question is whether his best is good enough. My conclusion is that we'll need another 2 seasons of mediocrity while he works out realistically what to do about things, at which point he'll either sell the club, or make changes and be successful. I'm not expecting anything good to happen on the pitch with TS as owner until about 2024-25, if ever. Sorry to be so golfified.
In that case can we get relegated next season ,followed by back to back promotions.
Find it totally bizarre that whenever he communicates, fans line up to pick his words to pieces and critisise.
One of the great moans at RD was that he did not communicate. Now we have an owner that does and he gets a load of grief over it.
I, for one, am glad we have an owner who is open and communicative. Who has made money through legitimate means and who has taken to this club and ploughed in his hard earned.
He saved us from oblivion by purchasing a shell of a club with no players, no property assets, a very tricky legal / ownership background in the middle of Covid lockdowns.
Does the team need to do better, yes. Has he made mistakes, yes. Will he continue to, yes. But let's give the fella more than 18months or we just sound entitled and whiney.
Find it totally bizarre that whenever he communicates, fans line up to pick his words to pieces and critisise.
One of the great moans at RD was that he did not communicate. Now we have an owner that does and he gets a load of grief over it.
I, for one, am glad we have an owner who is open and communicative. Who has made money through legitimate means and who has taken to this club and ploughed in his hard earned.
He saved us from oblivion by purchasing a shell of a club with no players, no property assets, a very tricky legal / ownership background in the middle of Covid lockdowns.
Does the team need to do better, yes. Has he made mistakes, yes. Will he continue to, yes. But let's give the fella more than 18months or we just sound entitled and whiney.
Watched it. Like his openness, he is desperate to do well and is investing in many many areas on the club.
Still well in credit for me but we have to be fast out of the blocks with recruitment this summer. If not, then i'll start to wain.
Did you think he was open? Personally I thought he was quite defensive and closed body language. Guess it depends on your overall impression of him maybe.
It’s all opinion and some of us are of the opinion that we have 5-6 players that we can build a team around and some of us are of the opinion the 5-6 is 2 or 3 and that the ones we think are part of that 5-6 are squad players at best.
For me, it’s unlikely, but we need 5-6 high quality first team signings in the summer, that includes 2 full backs, 2 centre backs, a wide player and a top quality forward.
Depending on Jackson’s set up, if we go 3-5-2 or 4-x-x, I only really feel with Dobson and Fraser he has the nucleus of a promotion pairing for central midfield. I’m not even sure about Stockley, Aneke and Washington if he re-signs. I’m certainly not sure about the wing back system with just CBT seemingly the only one who has performed adequately. Then at centre back, I feel Clare is okay and I am willing to give Lavelle more time and Inniss the chance to prove his fitness (again), but I can’t be sure.
For TS. I think this season has been a big learning curve and I hope he’s learned a lot and can adapt. For context, I went to see Orient play today as my cousin supports them and writes the fanzine. He’s relatively close to the set up there and he was telling me about a model of promotion every 3-4 years. At the end of next season they will be at the end of their 4th season in League 2. He told me about the set up and that they have U.S investors and a chairman who is an Orient fan. The Chairman gets the club and understands the limitations, but he feels the other investors don’t. His opinion of course, but I thought it was an interesting take.
We can’t fault TS’ financial input, but this summer is huge for him and us. I don’t expect anything more of him in terms of stumping up more money. Why should he? We don’t have a right to expect the sort of investment he’s put in. However, he also needs to realise, structural changes need to happen and if we don’t add 5/6 quality players, it won’t be enough.
Because we’d probably go bust if he doesn’t and he will lose what he’s already put in (if he hasn’t already). I’m not talking about squad investment but we will never close the operating deficit in the EFL, and certainly not in L1, other than through windfall transfer profits.
Even if the average (paid) gate rose by 10,000, it’s likely we’d still lose £4m a year (if the current gap is £8m).
Quite a depressing stat that Airman. So if I am reading that right we could add 10,000 to the gate, which lets be honest is never going to happen in League 1, but if it did we would still be £4m short.
So the options are TS digs deep into his pocket or we sell any talent we have to show a profit of £4m in the transfer market.
It’s all opinion and some of us are of the opinion that we have 5-6 players that we can build a team around and some of us are of the opinion the 5-6 is 2 or 3 and that the ones we think are part of that 5-6 are squad players at best.
For me, it’s unlikely, but we need 5-6 high quality first team signings in the summer, that includes 2 full backs, 2 centre backs, a wide player and a top quality forward.
Depending on Jackson’s set up, if we go 3-5-2 or 4-x-x, I only really feel with Dobson and Fraser he has the nucleus of a promotion pairing for central midfield. I’m not even sure about Stockley, Aneke and Washington if he re-signs. I’m certainly not sure about the wing back system with just CBT seemingly the only one who has performed adequately. Then at centre back, I feel Clare is okay and I am willing to give Lavelle more time and Inniss the chance to prove his fitness (again), but I can’t be sure.
For TS. I think this season has been a big learning curve and I hope he’s learned a lot and can adapt. For context, I went to see Orient play today as my cousin supports them and writes the fanzine. He’s relatively close to the set up there and he was telling me about a model of promotion every 3-4 years. At the end of next season they will be at the end of their 4th season in League 2. He told me about the set up and that they have U.S investors and a chairman who is an Orient fan. The Chairman gets the club and understands the limitations, but he feels the other investors don’t. His opinion of course, but I thought it was an interesting take.
We can’t fault TS’ financial input, but this summer is huge for him and us. I don’t expect anything more of him in terms of stumping up more money. Why should he? We don’t have a right to expect the sort of investment he’s put in. However, he also needs to realise, structural changes need to happen and if we don’t add 5/6 quality players, it won’t be enough.
Because we’d probably go bust if he doesn’t and he will lose what he’s already put in (if he hasn’t already). I’m not talking about squad investment but we will never close the operating deficit in the EFL, and certainly not in L1, other than through windfall transfer profits.
Even if the average (paid) gate rose by 10,000, it’s likely we’d still lose £4m a year (if the current gap is £8m).
Quite a depressing stat that Airman. So if I am reading that right we could add 10,000 to the gate, which lets be honest is never going to happen in League 1, but if it did we would still be £4m short.
So the options are TS digs deep into his pocket or we sell any talent we have to show a profit of £4m in the transfer market.
It’s just basic maths - 10,000 people x average £17.50 net x 23 games = £4m.
Watched it. Like his openness, he is desperate to do well and is investing in many many areas on the club.
Still well in credit for me but we have to be fast out of the blocks with recruitment this summer. If not, then i'll start to wain.
Did you think he was open? Personally I thought he was quite defensive and closed body language. Guess it depends on your overall impression of him maybe.
He tries to be open and that's a good thing. My impression is that he's learning and he wants to keep as involved as possible until he feels the right structure is in place. He said as much regarding the bringing in of a CEO. He said, ultimately, he needs someone closer to things on a day to day basis but not at this time. I'm sure he's feeling things out. He's been through a lot since taking over the club. Principally COVID-19 and the debacle with Adkins. I'd be looking a bit shell shocked myself after all that to be honest but I do think he's committed and has a plan. Whether that plan is successful is another matter but I remain cautiously optimistic. We shall see.
Find it totally bizarre that whenever he communicates, fans line up to pick his words to pieces and critisise.
One of the great moans at RD was that he did not communicate. Now we have an owner that does and he gets a load of grief over it.
I, for one, am glad we have an owner who is open and communicative. Who has made money through legitimate means and who has taken to this club and ploughed in his hard earned.
He saved us from oblivion by purchasing a shell of a club with no players, no property assets, a very tricky legal / ownership background in the middle of Covid lockdowns.
Does the team need to do better, yes. Has he made mistakes, yes. Will he continue to, yes. But let's give the fella more than 18months or we just sound entitled and whiney.
Spot On. At the end of the day everyone here going to have different opinions on how to run the club. It would appear that the balls up in the summer transfer window wasn't all on him, if you take him at his word.
To be fair to the guy, he's put his money in, spent reasonably heavily for a L1 club. I'm a big believer in he who pays the piper calls the tune. Let's be honest today everyone is an expert on everything especially on forums.
To me, he comes across as genuine, enthusiastic and desperate for success.
The freebie tickets have been a bit farcical but in all honesty I don't really care about free ticket give aways.
Watched it. Like his openness, he is desperate to do well and is investing in many many areas on the club.
Still well in credit for me but we have to be fast out of the blocks with recruitment this summer. If not, then i'll start to wain.
Did you think he was open? Personally I thought he was quite defensive and closed body language. Guess it depends on your overall impression of him maybe.
Incredibly open, and has been from the start IMO.
Fair enough.
I thought he again got shirty at the £100m loss/debt question and I thought he was defensive on the 5 year plan nonsense.
I also thought he was dismissive of some of the questions and didn’t provide much actual fact.
Either way none of these words or interviews really matter all that matters is he sorts things out this year as another bottom half finish will not be acceptable.
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It looks like the whole thing is wearing him down and I suspect he thought we would be further advanced than where we are.
Got bored after 11 minutes so switched it off.
What was the purchase price he paid again?
I think this is spot on.
Problem is, Sandgaard would disagree completely. He thinks we are a whisker away from top 2 next season and simply need improvements in infrastructure and individual coaching.
I think the operating losses from 2010 onwards would amount to about £100m, but as his original purpose was clearly to criticise the previous board and exclude Duchatelet that’s hardly the point.
Earlier this season he was in his natural position defending well, getting forward and even managed a couple of goals, then got some unknown reason Jackson dropped him for the league games and played him in the cup then recently he has played him out of position at CB.
Play him in his natural LB position and we have a very good player.
Without a shadow of a doubt he should be getting a new contract
He's a player that doesn't have a role in the squad so what's the point?
Makes sense 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
No matter what u need a LB, even if we are not playing with one atm, if we don't have one we are unadapatable
Across this interview and the fans forum notes the were a couple of observations I made, firstly he’s now just trotting out and repeating the same old sound bites.
But also my alarm bells were ringing at the points made about the CEO has to make the same decisions I would, the comments that I’m too old to change and even that he wouldn’t consider replacing ATV with London’s Calling only incorporating both.
These I think give an insight into his leadership style - very much i’m always right and and I won’t listen or change.
This worries me as the point of the CEO & SMT is to use other expertise and opinions.
Hopefully this summer he proves himself right or finds the magic formula because otherwise I think this stubbornness could see us struggle for years
For me, it’s unlikely, but we need 5-6 high quality first team signings in the summer, that includes 2 full backs, 2 centre backs, a wide player and a top quality forward.
For TS. I think this season has been a big learning curve and I hope he’s learned a lot and can adapt. For context, I went to see Orient play today as my cousin supports them and writes the fanzine. He’s relatively close to the set up there and he was telling me about a model of promotion every 3-4 years. At the end of next season they will be at the end of their 4th season in League 2. He told me about the set up and that they have U.S investors and a chairman who is an Orient fan. The Chairman gets the club and understands the limitations, but he feels the other investors don’t. His opinion of course, but I thought it was an interesting take.
We can’t fault TS’ financial input, but this summer is huge for him and us. I don’t expect anything more of him in terms of stumping up more money. Why should he? We don’t have a right to expect the sort of investment he’s put in. However, he also needs to realise, structural changes need to happen and if we don’t add 5/6 quality players, it won’t be enough.
Even if the average (paid) gate rose by 10,000, it’s likely we’d still lose £4m a year (if the current gap is £8m).
Still well in credit for me but we have to be fast out of the blocks with recruitment this summer. If not, then i'll start to wain.
I'm not expecting anything good to happen on the pitch with TS as owner until about 2024-25, if ever. Sorry to be so golfified.
One of the great moans at RD was that he did not communicate. Now we have an owner that does and he gets a load of grief over it.
I, for one, am glad we have an owner who is open and communicative. Who has made money through legitimate means and who has taken to this club and ploughed in his hard earned.
He saved us from oblivion by purchasing a shell of a club with no players, no property assets, a very tricky legal / ownership background in the middle of Covid lockdowns.
Does the team need to do better, yes. Has he made mistakes, yes. Will he continue to, yes. But let's give the fella more than 18months or we just sound entitled and whiney.
So the options are TS digs deep into his pocket or we sell any talent we have to show a profit of £4m in the transfer market.
To be fair to the guy, he's put his money in, spent reasonably heavily for a L1 club. I'm a big believer in he who pays the piper calls the tune. Let's be honest today everyone is an expert on everything especially on forums.
To me, he comes across as genuine, enthusiastic and desperate for success.
The freebie tickets have been a bit farcical but in all honesty I don't really care about free ticket give aways.
I thought he again got shirty at the £100m loss/debt question and I thought he was defensive on the 5 year plan nonsense.
I also thought he was dismissive of some of the questions and didn’t provide much actual fact.
Either way none of these words or interviews really matter all that matters is he sorts things out this year as another bottom half finish will not be acceptable.
Lets see what he comes up with