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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    Can we have full height disclosure for each rumour subject please.  
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,281
    edited April 2022
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    People know we don't have to sign players that used to play for us right? 
    People do know it’s possible for a former player to come back to play for us and do well, right?
    Naby wasn't good here the first time round, and if he'd improved at all he'd be playing regular football somewhere. We romanticise ex players far too much, usually based on how likeable they are as a person 
    I agree generally, but equally why rule out ex players purely because they've played for us previously? That's nonsense too. So you wouldn't want Pope in goal next season, or Konsa and Gomez at CB? Grant up top?
    Be sensible !!

    The players some posters would want us to (re) sign would be the likes of Magennis, Cousins, Piggott and Lapslie.
    Magennis, seriously? People think he done well last season as he scored 18 in the league. Fact is, he had a patch of form where he scored 7 in 8 at the end of the season. His record elsewhere for the last few seasons is no more than 5 or 6 goals a season. 

    Cousins was close to joining in the summer but went to Wigan. Admittedly been injured most of the season so don’t know how he would’ve performed.

    Pigott is a goalscorer at this level but like Fraser, they signed him because of his name and got far too many players in that position that he’s not settled nor favoured. He’ll leave in the summer. Could be a decent signing. Better option than someone like Stockton.

    Lapslie, goodness me who has said that? League Two is his level.

    I really hope the quality of player coming in this summer is of the standard Fraser came in with. He’s had it tough with lack of match fitness, then covid that hit him hard, then coming into a struggling team, but with a good pre-season, I think he could be very good next season.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,247
    Young Kevin Lisbie is being looked at VCD by scouts. One for Sandgaard Jr to crunch the numbers on
  • Luke McCormick from Wimbledon
    I liked their lapslie look alike. Rudini??
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Who's the ex spanner now at Gillingham who was previously on loan at Pompey? 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,247
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Who's the ex spanner now at Gillingham who was previously on loan at Pompey? 
    Ben Thompson 
  • BansteadAddick
    BansteadAddick Posts: 1,119
    Anthony Scully from Lincoln
    Very impressed with him, would be a good player to add to our squad. No idea re contract etc
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    shirty5 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Who's the ex spanner now at Gillingham who was previously on loan at Pompey? 
    Ben Thompson 
    That's the one.  Thanks. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,825
    edited April 2022
    Luke McCormick from Wimbledon
    I liked their lapslie look alike. Rudini??
    Yes also a good young and skilful player that I wouldn’t be unhappy to have.

    Like Scully, he probably isn’t a natural fit due to our formation not accommodating them (winger for Scully, no. 10 for Rudoni). In that case, we would have to be confident that we have a clear plan to utilise them before signing otherwise we are going to end up in the same boat this time next year with good young players but nowhere to fit them in.

    Scully strikes me as a second striker type, lots of running and pace, an eye for a finish. Whereas Rudoni might be better in a deeper role where his pretty feet would serve better - would need to put on some weight though.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,825
    Can we have full height disclosure for each rumour subject please.  
    As you desire…

    Scully 5’8
    McCormick 5’9
    Sykes 6’5

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    Sykes will go to the championship I think. But he would be perfect for us, used to playing as the outside CB in a back 3 and he’s massive. Also kicked Lyle Taylor when he was on the ground a couple of years ago so that’s an added bonus 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,247
    Can we have full height disclosure for each rumour subject please.  
    As you desire…

    Scully 5’8
    McCormick 5’9
    Sykes 6’5
    Millwall and Middlesbrough are linked with Sykes whilst we are looking at his grandad, Eric 
  • NabySarr said:
    Sykes will go to the championship I think. But he would be perfect for us, used to playing as the outside CB in a back 3 and he’s massive. Also kicked Lyle Taylor when he was on the ground a couple of years ago so that’s an added bonus 
    Wasnt that Sam Finley?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    NabySarr said:
    Sykes will go to the championship I think. But he would be perfect for us, used to playing as the outside CB in a back 3 and he’s massive. Also kicked Lyle Taylor when he was on the ground a couple of years ago so that’s an added bonus 
    Wasnt that Sam Finley?
    Yes Finley got done for it and got him in the head. But I seem to remember Sykes was very lucky to not get done for it as well 
  • Scully, McCormick, Sykes… There’s three to get started. You are welcome black box team. ;-)

    Are these players we're actually being linked with/rumoured to sign, or just 3 players you'd like us to sign?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,825
    Scully, McCormick, Sykes… There’s three to get started. You are welcome black box team. ;-)

    Are these players we're actually being linked with/rumoured to sign, or just 3 players you'd like us to sign?
    Just throwing names in to get a discussion going. We’ve got months to go… might as well make a start. :-)
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,463
    NabySarr said:
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
    Not a chance are we going to be signing Naby - we can't afford the wages for a starters. And he wouldn't drop in to league one.. My betting he'll end up overseas somewhere!
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    NabySarr said:
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
    What, like Leko & Lee were supposed to be, "going to rip League 1 a new one", "like having a cheat card with those two" & "far too good for league one"

    Lol
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,322
    NabySarr said:
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
    But both not good enough for the championship. TS has said we are building for the long term, bringing back bang average players to the club won't help. 

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    J BLOCK said:
    NabySarr said:
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
    But both not good enough for the championship. TS has said we are building for the long term, bringing back bang average players to the club won't help. 
    Lockyer has played 24 games this season for a team in the play offs 😂 he’d be our best defender by far. Naby hasn’t played much this season (13 games) as Huddersfield are also in the play offs and no longer playing a back 3 which he suits  but did play 41 games last season in the championship. Both are lower championship level players who are massively better than what we have now and what we will probably sign this summer. 

    Crazy that you would say no to them, especially Lockyer, and Naby was brilliant last time he was in league 1 for us and did pretty well when we played a back 3 in the championship. Luton and Huddersfield have 2 of the better recruitment teams in the country and they clearly disagree with you on how they did for us. They are not bang average at all, they would be 2 of the better defenders in league 1, we are bang average not them.

    Left footed centre backs is what we need most this summer as we have none and it is one of the hardest positions to find a good player in as there are few around, they are expensive. Guarantee we won’t sign one better than Naby 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    Why would either drop down to League 1?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    J BLOCK said:
    NabySarr said:
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
    But both not good enough for the championship. TS has said we are building for the long term, bringing back bang average players to the club won't help. 
    No but I would rather have them two than Gunter and Famewo.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,334
    NabySarr said:
    Lockyer and Sarr both out of contract. Would both be brilliant signings for this level. I reckon both will get a championship deal but maybe Naby and JJ relationship could work in our favour as we really need a couple of left sided centre backs that are comfortable on the ball as Purrington/Famewo don’t quite cut it 
    What, like Leko & Lee were supposed to be, "going to rip League 1 a new one", "like having a cheat card with those two" & "far too good for league one"

    Lol
    Don’t think anyone said that about Lee. He has always been a good league 1 player(until we signed him), never done anything in the championship. 

    Leko I think the big injury he got when he last played for us must have had a long term effect on him. But I still think when played on the wing he would be very good at this level, I think he was our best player under Adkins (2 goals, 2 assists in 8 games and some of them he didn’t start) and if we’d carried on playing 4-3-3 he would have been one of our best players this season. Playing up front and at wing back he’s been rubbish but I think next season he will go somewhere, play on the wing and do well again. 

    Naby and Lockyer have both played around 80 championship games over the past 3 years, they would be massively useful in league 1 next season and probably still have use for the first year in the championship if we did go up 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    Sarr's salary demands will too high, Lockyer was a great player for us, but would worry about his recent injuries...
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    Saying they would be better than Gunter and Famewo doesn't make them the right players for us...
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    We need to find the quality, age and affordability, it is out there...

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited April 2022
    Redhenry said:
    Saying they would be better than Gunter and Famewo doesn't make them the right players for us...
    No of course it doesn't but the other reasons don't make them the wrong players for us either.  No chance of Lockyer though so it doesn't matter either way. 

    I am not sure Sarr's wages will be that high, he would have resigned for us if we weren't under an embargo and I doubt we were paying more then? 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    big gap between salaries in champ and league one for starters... Think we should be able to find better at half the cost IMHO
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Back to my regular fret regarding introducing our youngsters, with particular reference to notion of bringing in eye catching more ‘experienced’ players we have got to know around the leagues.
    The argument is about risk and exposing or undermining confidence of our own.
    I get that is a perspective, but then again Tottenham Hotspur  get us to take their risk for them when we got John. We have done it with Henry at Wealdstone.
    Speaking personally I would much rather play an iffy Albie Morgan than an iffy Ben Watson. There is a huge upside in developing and playing our guys. Has Gilbey been that much of an upgrade on what we already have in house.