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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • I think that is a big misunderstanding of what Thomas’ stated aims are. I highly doubt he bought this football club to tread water in the third tier.

    To break even in football, you’re going to have to recruit well to then profit on two/three/four years later and/or have a strong academy system that churns out saleable assets.

    Thomas knows that he will need to spend in order to see any chance at a long term return. If he thinks he can break even by continually finishing 15th in the third tier then the football pyramid is going slowly bleed him dry until he has to sell to the next maniac.
    It'll help if Pope and Gomez are sold this summer. Both moving on could see us getting a few million in sell on fees which will obviously help to a) improve the transfer budget and b) reduce losses
  • I think that is a big misunderstanding of what Thomas’ stated aims are. I highly doubt he bought this football club to tread water in the third tier.

    To break even in football, you’re going to have to recruit well to then profit on two/three/four years later and/or have a strong academy system that churns out saleable assets.

    Thomas knows that he will need to spend in order to see any chance at a long term return. If he thinks he can break even by continually finishing 15th in the third tier then the football pyramid is going slowly bleed him dry until he has to sell to the next maniac.
    It'll help if Pope and Gomez are sold this summer. Both moving on could see us getting a few million in sell on fees which will obviously help to a) improve the transfer budget and b) reduce losses
    C) be a nice little bonus for Roland!!😜
  • I think that is a big misunderstanding of what Thomas’ stated aims are. I highly doubt he bought this football club to tread water in the third tier.

    To break even in football, you’re going to have to recruit well to then profit on two/three/four years later and/or have a strong academy system that churns out saleable assets.

    Thomas knows that he will need to spend in order to see any chance at a long term return. If he thinks he can break even by continually finishing 15th in the third tier then the football pyramid is going slowly bleed him dry until he has to sell to the next maniac.
    Maybe although when TS bought us he said promotion last season was not essential but would be a bonus and promotion this season was the goal.   I am still uncomvinced he has the fire power to keep us running for long in L1.  I feel he was a hopelessly over optimistic football investor who, like many before him, thought it would be easier than it is. 

    Don't get me wrong, I still support him as I have said previously but I do wonder how it all ends, especially given I read elsewhere today that our accounts reveal a £350K third party loan for the academy.  Not exactly big bucks in footballing terms and if we need to borrow that amount it does not scream at me that TS has deep, liquid pockets.
  • edited April 2022
    Scoham said:
    Is Freddie Ladapo a realistic target? I know he was angling for a move to the Championship in January but his form has taken a real nose dive since it all fell through.

    The last two or three months may have put off clubs from above taking the chance? No doubt Rotherham will be willing to listen to offers for an unhappy player.

    South London boy as well so might welcome a move closer to home. Just don’t mention where he started his career.
    Colchester according to Wiki?...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Ladapo

    Is he related to Tolu Lapado in our u18s? I thought someone said they were brothers but might be wrong. Surprisingly a lot of articles out there on him.

    https://www.uobtoday.co.uk/index.php/2020/11/03/charlton-athletic-u18-striker-ladapo-remains-focused-on-pro-dream/

    https://www.uobtoday.co.uk/index.php/2020/11/03/charlton-athletic-u18-striker-ladapo-remains-focused-on-pro-dream/

    https://the72.co.uk/269171/charlton-athletic-youngsters-jason-adigun-and-tolu-ladapo-eyed-by-brentford/
    Joseph Ladapo turned 18 about a month ago (March 21st).  Jason Adigun in November '21.  No news yet of either signing pro terms.  Hopefully they do soon.

    Miles Leaburn I think is still 17.
  • edited April 2022
    mendonca said:
    Sorba Thomas looks like he would have been an upgrade on Millar. 

    Once again, he's not a wing back so probably would have been misused here.
    I heard on commentary last night that he's been playing at wing back for Huddersfield.

    Just remind me......what did Boreham Wood want for him & how much did we pay for Kirk. Just asking. 


  • First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
  • First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
  • First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
    Well the one time he played he looked like a defensive wing back and didn't do much wrong. 
  • mendonca said:
    Sorba Thomas looks like he would have been an upgrade on Millar. 

    Once again, he's not a wing back so probably would have been misused here.
    I heard on commentary last night that he's been playing at wing back for Huddersfield.

    Just remind me......what did Boreham Wood want for him & how much did we pay for Kirk. Just asking. 


    You would be the first complaining about ‘square pegs in round holes’ if we did that. 
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  • First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
    Really? How ridiculous.
    What is the source for this suggestion?
  • First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
    Really? How ridiculous.
    What is the source for this suggestion?
    Airman said Bowyer wanted him gone (was on loan at Birmingham) so we took him on loan in order to push through signing Aneke.
  • Scoham said:
    First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
    Really? How ridiculous.
    What is the source for this suggestion?
    Airman said Bowyer wanted him gone (was on loan at Birmingham) so we took him on loan in order to push through signing Aneke.
    We signed Castillo a full week after Aneke was confirmed. How does that mean we signed him to push through the signing of Aneke when we had already signed Aneke?
  • Scoham said:
    First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
    Really? How ridiculous.
    What is the source for this suggestion?
    Airman said Bowyer wanted him gone (was on loan at Birmingham) so we took him on loan in order to push through signing Aneke.
    Staggering!
    So at a point when the team was floundering and injuries were racking up, we use up a loan spot on a player we didn't want.
    Are we suggesting that had we refused to take him there would have been no Aneke deal?

  • Sage said:
    Scoham said:
    First thing we need to concentrate on is buy two specialist wing-backs, we have spent 90% of the year playing a formation that requires two very niche roles, something we don't really have in the squad (CBT has done well in an attacking sense but has had injury issues and is a question mark defensively).

    Personally I would bin the formation but Jacko seems set on it. We need round pegs in round holes if we are to persist with it.
    I hear that Chelsea have a great wing back......Castillo is it  ???
    I though it was pretty well documented that we never even wanted Castillo? 
    Really? How ridiculous.
    What is the source for this suggestion?
    Airman said Bowyer wanted him gone (was on loan at Birmingham) so we took him on loan in order to push through signing Aneke.
    We signed Castillo a full week after Aneke was confirmed. How does that mean we signed him to push through the signing of Aneke when we had already signed Aneke?
    Ask @Airman Brown, only going off what he posted.
  • I think Castillo had COVID and that delayed. Because they are part of the same agreement doesn't mean they have to happen on the same day.
  • Fcuking hell, is this going to set a new precedent.
    "Want our player? Take this piece of shit as well or no deal"  ;)
  • edited April 2022
    Fcuking hell, is this going to set a new precedent.
    "Want our player? Take this piece of shit as well or no deal"  ;)
    We should have insisted Chelsea buy Ben Watson as well if they wanted Burstow  ;)
    "Look you can take Burstow for free... But there about five fellas you need to see first, as they're coming with him"
  • I am very worried about our transfer record recently. 3 players on long term contracts: Kirk a failure, 'sicknote' Aneke and unproven Fraser. And loan players who make little impact or do not appear at all, Leko, Arter, Castillo, Nile John even Lee and Famewo after bright starts.
    There is going to have to be a big improvement in quick time on both long term and short term recruitment if we want to make an impact from August onwards.
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  • edited April 2022
    Southbank said:
    I am very worried about our transfer record recently. 3 players on long term contracts: Kirk a failure, 'sicknote' Aneke and unproven Fraser. And loan players who make little impact or do not appear at all, Leko, Arter, Castillo, Nile John even Lee and Famewo after bright starts.
    There is going to have to be a big improvement in quick time on both long term and short term recruitment if we want to make an impact from August onwards.
    But Kirk is playing in the Championship, Aneke's injury record isn't bad when you actually look at it (and take the general frustration of this season out of matters) and Fraser is absolutely proven at this level. I'll agree with you on the loans which have been poor this season compared to the last few years.

    I think we know how to find good players but I wonder they're just being 'identified' as good players with no idea of how they'll fit together.
  • What I find strange with Aneke is how come he was totally fit at Brum then either side of that he's been a walking injury with us. Surely that can't just be luck or coincidence. Thomas even bought some fancy machines for us.
  • Maccn05 said:
    What I find strange with Aneke is how come he was totally fit at Brum then either side of that he's been a walking injury with us. Surely that can't just be luck or coincidence. Thomas even bought some fancy machines for us.
    He wasn't, just playing 20 odd minutes at the end of games just like he did for us. 
  • Anyone mentioned Jack Iredale yet? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Anyone mentioned Jack Iredale yet? 
    No but after Googling him he looks like he’ll fit right in.

    Jack Iredale braced for extended spell on Cambridge United sidelines

    https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/amp/jack-iredale-braced-for-extended-spell-on-cambridge-united-s-9239621/

    The link below sounds more positive (and he’s since recovered from that injury), called the best left back in League 1 by one of Cambridge’s coaches, and they’ve used him
    at wing back in a back 3/5.

    He’s 26 in May so might not attract too much Championship interest, could be a realistic target.

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cambridge-united-defender-jack-iredale-22328077

    Who’s the equivalent for right wing back? Kane Wilson gets mentioned a lot before being dismissed as Championship bound.
  • Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Anyone mentioned Jack Iredale yet? 
    No but after Googling him he looks like he’ll fit right in.

    Jack Iredale braced for extended spell on Cambridge United sidelines

    https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/amp/jack-iredale-braced-for-extended-spell-on-cambridge-united-s-9239621/

    The link below sounds more positive (and he’s since recovered from that injury), called the best left back in League 1 by one of Cambridge’s coaches, and they’ve used him
    at wing back in a back 3/5.

    He’s 26 in May so might not attract too much Championship interest, could be a realistic target.

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cambridge-united-defender-jack-iredale-22328077

    Who’s the equivalent for right wing back? Kane Wilson gets mentioned a lot before being dismissed as Championship bound.
    He is also about 6 foot 3 and can play left of a 3.
  • edited April 2022
    Bolton been heavily linked with Iredale. He is apparently out of contract this summer. They’ll have similar aspirations to us next season.


    Edit: ignore that, the source is our friend Alan Nixon!

    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bolton-wanderers-hoping-to-move-ahead-of-preston-in-race-for-25-y-o-defender/
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