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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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The year he scored 15 goals mostly from the bench was a year where 5 subs were allowed. Teams don’t usually like to substitute defenders anyway, especially centre backs, unless they have toochurch-lane said:Lots of talk about Anekes effectiveness from the bench. In the past he has been effective when he has come on for the last 30 minutes against a tiring defence. I wonder how effective is he going to be this season when with 5 subs available, that defence might not quite so tired as previously?2 -
No talk of a left back is a bit odd aswell, would have been nice to have had a complete balanced back four going into the first game.3
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Reading 757 posts on whether Aneke is an asset or a liability, I have come up with the conclusion that he is both!!!
Aneke has proven time and time again that he can come on as a sub and change a game. Unfortunately, he has also proven that he cant start regularly and is an injury risk.
Going into the season with Aneke being Stockley's understudy is a very big risk. Going into the season with another forward and Aneke on the bench, now that we are allowed 5 subs is a bonus. Until we sign another, we are in the risk category. hopefully we can get the other forward in this week which means we can use Aneke to his strengths and use him as an asset rather than a liability.9 -
Payne was Swindon’s next top scorer with 13 and a few other midfielders got around 4 or 5 (including Williams).MuttleyCAFC said:One thing is for sure, we are going to need goals from the midfield. The only players who might get a lot and I use the word might is Gilbey and or Payne for me. Primarily as he buys a ticket more than most. JFC gives you shots/free kicks. But two of those probably won't start.
Between Payne, Fraser, McGrandles and Gilbey If things go well and we’re creating enough good chances I could see one of them getting around double figures with others chipping in a few here and there.
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I wonder if we are looking at any potential Tottenham loanees……….1
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It is quite possible we might need 40 plus goals from those players.Scoham said:
Payne was Swindon’s next top scorer with 13 and a few other midfielders got around 4 or 5 (including Williams).MuttleyCAFC said:One thing is for sure, we are going to need goals from the midfield. The only players who might get a lot and I use the word might is Gilbey and or Payne for me. Primarily as he buys a ticket more than most. JFC gives you shots/free kicks. But two of those probably won't start.
Between Payne, Fraser, McGrandles and Gilbey If things go well and we’re creating enough good chances I could see one of them getting around double figures with others chipping in a few here and there.0 -
The last one was a roaring success........Bods64 said:I wonder if we are looking at any potential Tottenham loanees……….
Spurs are a club who don't really seem to have that many good youngsters, certainly nowhere near the level of City, Chelsea and Arsenal.0 -
IF he is fit to play.RC_CAFC said:
Chuks gives us something that no other club has and I think that he is an invaluable part of the squad. If we still only had 3 subs then he is more of a luxury, but now you have 5 from 7 it is brilliant to have someone of that strength and quality to bring off the bench against tiring defenders. Am hoping he will really prosper with the way we are going to play this year tiring out the opposition with a high pressing possession based game.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
Will be interesting to see if the scan he is having shows anything up that will keep him out for weeks months0 -
Which doesn’t feel realistic and why we need that McKirdy type out wide.MuttleyCAFC said:
It is quite possible we might need 40 plus goals from those players.Scoham said:
Payne was Swindon’s next top scorer with 13 and a few other midfielders got around 4 or 5 (including Williams).MuttleyCAFC said:One thing is for sure, we are going to need goals from the midfield. The only players who might get a lot and I use the word might is Gilbey and or Payne for me. Primarily as he buys a ticket more than most. JFC gives you shots/free kicks. But two of those probably won't start.
Between Payne, Fraser, McGrandles and Gilbey If things go well and we’re creating enough good chances I could see one of them getting around double figures with others chipping in a few here and there.0 -
That was largely my point Chris. If they did have any we wouldn’t use them anyway!0
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Anonymous Facebook poster (didn’t know that was a feature) says we’re signing Rak-Sakyi this week.
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" I Believe Charlton are interested" suddenly turns into "Deal set to be agreed before the Accrington game"
Has this poster got any form ?3 -
Hard to accept but Charlton should definitely be cultivating a relationship with Palace with a view to loans. They bring through a lot of good young players and we are close enough to be ideal for many of their loans. Easy for the loanee and easy for palace to keep good tabs.1
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No idea since they’re anonymous, something that wasn’t previously possible.soapboxsam said:" I Believe Charlton are interested" suddenly turns into "Deal set to be agreed before the Accrington game"
Has this poster got any form ?0 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I'm actually surprised they're not looking to try and get him a championship loan. England U20 international, already made his PL debut, he should be very good in league one.Richard J said:Rak Sakri would be a great signing.He first impressed me at the friendly at Selhurst Park last season.
Amazing skill on the ball, and could be an X factor player but I didn't see him getting clobbered by hairy arsed League 1 defenders ! In the clips I watched it appeared to be against 18's or 21's sides.
Winger/forward type but not sure if he would be too much of a loose cannon but talented feet for sure.0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Hard to accept but Charlton should definitely be cultivating a relationship with Palace with a view to loans. They bring through a lot of good young players and we are close enough to be ideal for many of their loans. Easy for the loanee and easy for palace to keep good tabs.
Agree.
Big Ryan Inniss can scout for us at his old hunting ground in Beckenham to keep him occupied when he recovering from muscle injuries which affect him for 33 games a season.
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Get him on board before the good 🚢 leaves port.Richard J said:
Really hope it's true.Scoham said:Anonymous Facebook poster (didn’t know that was a feature) says we’re signing Rak-Sakyi this week.
If he's good with his feet and can play a forward role, that'll do for me at this stage, unless we really want to wait until late on again hoping the new messiah becomes available for a bargain basement fee. We need options.
In any case, no hit to squad capacity so possibly worth a roll of the 🎲0 -
soapboxsam said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I'm actually surprised they're not looking to try and get him a championship loan. England U20 international, already made his PL debut, he should be very good in league one.Richard J said:Rak Sakri would be a great signing.He first impressed me at the friendly at Selhurst Park last season.
Amazing skill on the ball, and could be an X factor player but I didn't see him getting clobbered by hairy arsed League 1 defenders in the clips I watched when it appeared to be against 18's or 21's sides.
Winger/forward type but not sure if he would be too much of a loose cannon but talented feet for sure.
From the clips he looks like a more polished version of DJ. Would be quite excited if we managed this.2 -
Get him in, sign a striker and a left back and we're good to go IMO13
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That's why you need at least 1 more striker. Someone to replace/alternate with Stockley and that can play 90 mins week in & week out. Then you have Aneke to come off the bench for 20-30 mins. With 5 subs allowed to come on surely you can have 2 out & out strikers in your 7 man bench.FishCostaFortune said:
You do indeed. The thing is that striker you bring on 90% of the time also usually ends up filling in for 90 minutes when others are suspended, injured, or it’s a busy schedule and they need a rest.Cafc43v3r said:
You always have a striker on the bench. You bring them on 90% of the time.....CAFCBourne said:mart77 said:
Chuks will be ideal for 30 minute cameos, especially with 5 subs now being allowed. The thing that a lot of us seem to feel is that we need at least one other striker who can play a whole game. FWIW I think we’ll sign a striker and an attacking forward/winger but we’ll have to make a couple of tough calls to balance the books. Ultimately I think we have to back Garner.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
Who wants a cameo player? Put it this way I bet BG would rather have his wages and the £300k to invest than be stuck with someone who unfortunately just cannot be relied on at anytimemart77 said:
Chuks will be ideal for 30 minute cameos, especially with 5 subs now being allowed. The thing that a lot of us seem to feel is that we need at least one other striker who can play a whole game. FWIW I think we’ll sign a striker and an attacking forward/winger but we’ll have to make a couple of tough calls to balance the books. Ultimately I think we have to back Garner.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
At 1-1 or 1-0 either way would you rather bring on Chuks, Washington or Davison? If your doing that 35 times a season what's the problem?
Aneke cant do any of them. Aneke can’t even get through a pre season where there’s less intensity and his minutes were more
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I've been saying this since May. Keep being told we dont need strikers in a Ben Garner team & that the wide men/wingers/ attacking midfielders will score instead. From what I've seen only Payne will fill that role as CBT, Gilbey,Morgan ,Fraser & DJ have shown that they really dont own a pair of Billy's boots.cabbles said:The thing about the striker/forward situation for me is that I truly believe (however unlikely it is now looking), that we need/ed someone better than both Stockley and Aneke to get us out of this league.
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When you use the words "I believe" and "interested" in the same sentence it usually means you know jack shit.Scoham said:Anonymous Facebook poster (didn’t know that was a feature) says we’re signing Rak-Sakyi this week.3 -
I agree, but the problem is that striker will need to get us goals because there may be periods of the season where they play the full 90 minutes of games. So we don’t want a Josh Parker. However which ‘prolific’ striker is going to want to come in knowing that they won’t get a chance off the bench because of Aneke and may only be used if the main striker is injured or suspended.golfaddick said:
That's why you need at least 1 more striker. Someone to replace/alternate with Stockley and that can play 90 mins week in & week out. Then you have Aneke to come off the bench for 20-30 mins. With 5 subs allowed to come on surely you can have 2 out & out strikers in your 7 man bench.FishCostaFortune said:
You do indeed. The thing is that striker you bring on 90% of the time also usually ends up filling in for 90 minutes when others are suspended, injured, or it’s a busy schedule and they need a rest.Cafc43v3r said:
You always have a striker on the bench. You bring them on 90% of the time.....CAFCBourne said:mart77 said:
Chuks will be ideal for 30 minute cameos, especially with 5 subs now being allowed. The thing that a lot of us seem to feel is that we need at least one other striker who can play a whole game. FWIW I think we’ll sign a striker and an attacking forward/winger but we’ll have to make a couple of tough calls to balance the books. Ultimately I think we have to back Garner.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
Who wants a cameo player? Put it this way I bet BG would rather have his wages and the £300k to invest than be stuck with someone who unfortunately just cannot be relied on at anytimemart77 said:
Chuks will be ideal for 30 minute cameos, especially with 5 subs now being allowed. The thing that a lot of us seem to feel is that we need at least one other striker who can play a whole game. FWIW I think we’ll sign a striker and an attacking forward/winger but we’ll have to make a couple of tough calls to balance the books. Ultimately I think we have to back Garner.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
At 1-1 or 1-0 either way would you rather bring on Chuks, Washington or Davison? If your doing that 35 times a season what's the problem?
Aneke cant do any of them. Aneke can’t even get through a pre season where there’s less intensity and his minutes were more
managed than any other player.
Of course maybe there may be someone young and hungry who wants to take that chance dislodging Stockley, but I expect most decent strikers will want to move somewhere where they will get lots of guaranteed minutes.
And how much of the budget do we spend on this player who may only have very limited game time? When we already have a good chunk of the said budget being spent on Stockley and a player who can’t play more than 20-30 minutes a game.1 -
And so I found a Youtube clip of Rak-Saki, 8 minutes worth of his U23 performances last season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZt-zvu4S7A&t=521s&ab_channel=PBcomps
The lad has got some composure, bag of tricks twisting and turning, quick feet, acceleration and change of pace. It's in tight spaces that he does the damage - faced with packed defences; he's a tin-opener.
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Come on now!!!…… it’s in tight spaces he does the damage!!, who is he Mandingo!!!!!……KENNETH!!!!!!!!🤣Oggy Red said:And so I found a Youtube clip of Rak-Saki, 8 minutes worth of his U23 performances last season.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZt-zvu4S7A&t=521s&ab_channel=PBcomps
The lad has got some composure, bag of tricks twisting and turning, quick feet, acceleration and change of pace. It's in tight spaces that he does the damage - faced with packed defences; he's a tin-opener.4 -
Let's be honest if we had CBT on one side and that kid on the other, teams would absolutely hate playing us.5
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You do know we have 2 fewer strikers than last season? Even if we only play with one striker/ goalscorer at a time ( which I am really not sure we should), we still need one more. None of Washington, Stockley or Aneke were guaranteed starts for long periods during the season due to injury, loss of form or suspension. That is why its a squad game.FishCostaFortune said:
I agree, but the problem is that striker will need to get us goals because there may be periods of the season where they play the full 90 minutes of games. So we don’t want a Josh Parker. However which ‘prolific’ striker is going to want to come in knowing that they won’t get a chance off the bench because of Aneke and may only be used if the main striker is injured or suspended.golfaddick said:
That's why you need at least 1 more striker. Someone to replace/alternate with Stockley and that can play 90 mins week in & week out. Then you have Aneke to come off the bench for 20-30 mins. With 5 subs allowed to come on surely you can have 2 out & out strikers in your 7 man bench.FishCostaFortune said:
You do indeed. The thing is that striker you bring on 90% of the time also usually ends up filling in for 90 minutes when others are suspended, injured, or it’s a busy schedule and they need a rest.Cafc43v3r said:
You always have a striker on the bench. You bring them on 90% of the time.....CAFCBourne said:mart77 said:
Chuks will be ideal for 30 minute cameos, especially with 5 subs now being allowed. The thing that a lot of us seem to feel is that we need at least one other striker who can play a whole game. FWIW I think we’ll sign a striker and an attacking forward/winger but we’ll have to make a couple of tough calls to balance the books. Ultimately I think we have to back Garner.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
Who wants a cameo player? Put it this way I bet BG would rather have his wages and the £300k to invest than be stuck with someone who unfortunately just cannot be relied on at anytimemart77 said:
Chuks will be ideal for 30 minute cameos, especially with 5 subs now being allowed. The thing that a lot of us seem to feel is that we need at least one other striker who can play a whole game. FWIW I think we’ll sign a striker and an attacking forward/winger but we’ll have to make a couple of tough calls to balance the books. Ultimately I think we have to back Garner.CAFCBourne said:Chucks is an absolute shambles for our club the decision to bring him home was a shocker. How we are going into the season relying on this injury prone player says we are not going anywhere fast
At 1-1 or 1-0 either way would you rather bring on Chuks, Washington or Davison? If your doing that 35 times a season what's the problem?
Aneke cant do any of them. Aneke can’t even get through a pre season where there’s less intensity and his minutes were more
managed than any other player.
Of course maybe there may be someone young and hungry who wants to take that chance dislodging Stockley, but I expect most decent strikers will want to move somewhere where they will get lots of guaranteed minutes.
And how much of the budget do we spend on this player who may only have very limited game time? When we already have a good chunk of the said budget being spent on Stockley and a player who can’t play more than 20-30 minutes a game.
If Stockley gets injured, suspended or loses form, who takes his starting place with the current squad?
And please don't say Leaburn. (Or Aneke obviously)0 -
Hull won this league two seasons ago with Josh Magennis down the middle of a three, Stockley is better than him. If the wide men are dynamic enough it can be done.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Let's be honest if we had CBT on one side and that kid on the other, teams would absolutely hate playing us.16
