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What makes you think that about Carrick?Red_Chester said:
Agree with Beale. I reckon we’d get some good villa and rangers youngsters on loan too. Carrick-On the other hand we might as well kept Jackson as manager.MarcusH26 said:Michael Beale is by far and away my No1 candidate , young progressive tactically clever coach who seems incredibly switched on.
Honestly find a lot of those names on the odds list quite uninspired but someone like Michael Carrick at 20s would be an interesting move and probably fits the mould for what TS is after.0 -
Considering Sandgaard won’t even pay the salary of a half-decent Premier League youth loanee, he ain’t paying anywhere near a salary like that + anyone like Dyche, Farke are Premier League and Championship managers. Let’s on from that chat.Rob7Lee said:Dyche was on £4m a year0 -
Red_Chester said:
Agree with Beale. I reckon we’d get some good villa and rangers youngsters on loan too. Carrick-On the other hand we might as well kept Jackson as manager.MarcusH26 said:Michael Beale is by far and away my No1 candidate , young progressive tactically clever coach who seems incredibly switched on.
Honestly find a lot of those names on the odds list quite uninspired but someone like Michael Carrick at 20s would be an interesting move and probably fits the mould for what TS is after.
I only really picked Carrick out because I can see the " ex player that's a bit of a name and has coached at a good level" type appealing to TS. Can't say I know anything about Carrick as a coach.0 -
Definitely!Dave Rudd said:
Schoolboy error, @Scoham.Scoham said:
And that’s exactly why some compare him to RD. Although very different they’re two owners determined to do things their own way and appoint people that no one else in football would.Dave Rudd said:
I have no idea.Scoham said:
Do you trust him to find the right people within football to get advice from?Dave Rudd said:One last try ...
Sandgaard, you have now got it badly wrong twice.
Adkins.
Jackson.
The scientific interpretation would be that your process is wrong.
So ... before you get it wrong a third time (and just think of the cost that would involve) ... get your process right.
You do not have the background, or experience or the vision to make the right call.
One last try ...
GET SOME PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHO KNOW FOOTBALL.
Not your son (despite his hard shot).
Not Ron Dangerfield (despite his bushy beard).
Not De Souza (despite his misspelled PowerPoint slides).
Ignore this at your peril. But I will not bother again. If you are that ignorant, and that arrogant ... well. I'll leave it there.
Apart from ...
GET SOME PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHO KNOW FOOTBALL. BECAUSE YOU DO NOT.
But Step 1 would be for Sandgaard to realise the problem, and then to speak to others who might help him.
The problem is arrogance, not contacts.
Wigan on the other hand appointed a CEO with plenty of football experience and although they took a gamble on a young manager they put together a very strong squad which gave him the opportunity to succeed.
I can understand Jackson being replaced but am concerned about who will replace him and our recruitment this summer.
I get the feeling this is his last roll of the dice, I can’t see him putting £5-10m in every year to stay in League 1 if we keep failing.
Just like Roland, Sandgaard 'doesn't do failure'.
He managed to buy us due to his determination and is going to be here for 100 years.
Source?Sandgaard spoke to Jim White and Natalie Sawyer on TalkSport this lunchtime and here is what he had to say when he was quizzed on his long-term ambitions and how long he thinks he will be at the club for.
“Let’s put a big round number on it and call it 100 years, after the stability is in place, I hope we can do a Leicester, where we can blow everybody’s minds and get to play some European football, but it will take a while”.
That comment alone made Charlton fans smile and think about what the future could hold. We do need actions more than words, but so far the words are enjoyable enough to think about Charlton being in the Champions League, but I do remember Sandgaard saying somewhere that he believes in “actions speak louder than words” so let’s hope that’s true too.
@JamesSeed check : Pinch of salt?0 -
Not sure we could afford Warburton. He might want too much dough.ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!4 -
I understand sandgaards view on loans, although I don't necessarily agree. Why pay to develop other teams youngsters who will be here for a short while, possibly improve, then go back to their club to be sold (bielik) for big money or loaned to a team in a higher division the following season (maatsen), when he is financing our own academy.The Red Robin said:
Considering Sandgaard won’t even pay the salary of a half-decent Premier League youth loanee, he ain’t paying anywhere near a salary like that + anyone like Dyche, Farke are Premier League and Championship managers. Let’s on from that chat.Rob7Lee said:Dyche was on £4m a year
he has proven that he will pay reasonable salaries and fees without being held to ransom. I'm not sure where this sandgaard is skint and doesn't spend money statement that posters like to go on about.He has spent money, just badly! That's why this next appointment is a big one for him. He needs to get this one right and get player recruitment right!0 -
That would be the yeast of our problems.ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!
Still, it's better than fish puns every third post.2 -
Cullen and Bielik were a huge part of our promotion team. That’s why you pay them. Kids like Niles John etc aren’t going to be good enough to do anything significant.Todds_right_hook said:
I understand sandgaards view on loans, although I don't necessarily agree. Why pay to develop other teams youngsters who will be here for a short while, possibly improve, then go back to their club to be sold (bielik) for big money or loaned to a team in a higher division the following season (maatsen), when he is financing our own academy.The Red Robin said:
Considering Sandgaard won’t even pay the salary of a half-decent Premier League youth loanee, he ain’t paying anywhere near a salary like that + anyone like Dyche, Farke are Premier League and Championship managers. Let’s on from that chat.Rob7Lee said:Dyche was on £4m a year
he has proven that he will pay reasonable salaries and fees without being held to ransom. I'm not sure where this sandgaard is skint and doesn't spend money statement that posters like to go on about.He has spent money, just badly! That's why this next appointment is a big one for him. He needs to get this one right and get player recruitment right!
And going on the logic that we don’t want to develop other team’s players, why was he so boastful of bringing Burstow back on loan to develop for Chelsea0 -
we're not in the Championship AND as usual, it was down to a lack of cash to sign better quality players that led to Cham failure .. the same as what's happened this season just gone for the Poshredbuttle said:
Not in the Championship he didntLincsaddick said:Ferguson would do for me, he did wonders for the :Posh0 -
Fleetwood have sacked their manager, they'll be on the hunt too.0
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The Warburton story is toastJamesSeed said:
Not sure we could afford Warburton. He might want too much dough.ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!3 -
Who is Rob Page?0
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Manager of Walesecclesaddick said:Who is Rob Page?0 -
Redrobo said:
Manager of Walesecclesaddick said:Who is Rob Page?
I heard he wants to turn over a new leaf, so is a real possibility. The writing won't need to be on the wall either, and a good spell will not be a blot on his copybook
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Did you mean bread based buns ?ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!1 -
He was at Salford on Monday. Albeit as a punditkillerandflash said:0 -
I respectfully disagreeBriston_Addick said:
That would be the yeast of our problems.ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!
Still, it's better than fish puns every third post.1 -
Why is Gary Rowett getting mentioned in betting ? He’s doing a very good job at Millwall and might fancy he’s in with a chance of playoffs next season if they fall just short this. Way out of our league at present.4
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But he's doing the recruitment without the manager. That's the big problem. Hubris.Todds_right_hook said:
I understand sandgaards view on loans, although I don't necessarily agree. Why pay to develop other teams youngsters who will be here for a short while, possibly improve, then go back to their club to be sold (bielik) for big money or loaned to a team in a higher division the following season (maatsen), when he is financing our own academy.The Red Robin said:
Considering Sandgaard won’t even pay the salary of a half-decent Premier League youth loanee, he ain’t paying anywhere near a salary like that + anyone like Dyche, Farke are Premier League and Championship managers. Let’s on from that chat.Rob7Lee said:Dyche was on £4m a year
he has proven that he will pay reasonable salaries and fees without being held to ransom. I'm not sure where this sandgaard is skint and doesn't spend money statement that posters like to go on about.He has spent money, just badly! That's why this next appointment is a big one for him. He needs to get this one right and get player recruitment right!
Worth mentioning that the two loaness TS brought in weren't wanted by Jackson and we have at least as good in our own academy.
That list of potential replacements is depressing. Struggling to see one that I'd be confident would be a definite improvement on what we had.0 -
Paul May.😵💫😵💫😵💫cafcledbury said:I want someone with no connections to Charlton.1 -
Bangs head repeatedly on desk……😩😩😩JamesSeed said:
Not sure we could afford Warburton. He might want too much dough.ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!3 -
especially after his agent has taken his sliceSoundAsa£ said:
Bangs head repeatedly on desk……😩😩😩JamesSeed said:
Not sure we could afford Warburton. He might want too much dough.ValleyOfTears said:Would be keen to have Warburton here but I just don't think I could endure the bread-based puns EVERY week!3 -
Beale for me. Meant to be very good tactically and was apparently a big reason behind Gerrard's success as rangers. We've had too many man managers over the years and not enough decent tacticians, so would be nice to go with someone who can switch it up and change systems easily with different approaches to different games. Still young for a manager as well so that will help him relate with the younger players. Ticks every box imo.5
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Has Beale ever said he would want the top job at a club? Big risk for me, good coaches don't always make good managers0
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Brian Kidd / Mike PhelanBigRedEvil said:Has Beale ever said he would want the top job at a club? Big risk for me, good coaches don't always make good managers0 -
Mark WarburtonThe Red Robin said:
https://youtu.be/l_MxEyWYs6Y
Spoiler alert, Warburton likes a 3-5-2.0 -
You can just see it now:J BLOCK said:Fleetwood have sacked their manager, they'll be on the hunt too.
"Beale chooses Fleetwood after unreasonable contractual T&C's offered by Charlton. Martin Sandgaard to take over the ropes at The Valley after impressive juggling skills shown on family holiday"16
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