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Pope dosh?
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The reportedly high sell on percentage could be a problem for Charlton. It's a big incentive for Burnley to structure a deal that minimizes Pope's headline transfer figure (thowing a second low value Burnley player into the deal at an inflated price would be one way of doing it). As they're clearly desperate for every penny I think there's a good chance they do so.
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There is and they will do everything they can to maximise their income. However, you also have to find a club willing to take both Pope and the other player. They don’t have many saleable assets with Tarkowski and Mee out of contract, Pope is the only one really. Cornet maybe but I think he has a relegation release clause.SantaClaus said:The reportedly high sell on percentage could be a problem for Charlton. It's a big incentive for Burnley to structure a deal that minimizes Pope's headline transfer figure (thowing a second low value Burnley player into the deal at an inflated price would be one way of doing it). As they're clearly desperate for every penny I think there's a good chance they do so.0 -
Some years ago, I’m pretty sure a rule was introduced whereby transfer fee instalments had to be paid within 12 months of the deal, the rationale being to try and protect buying clubs from spending beyond their means and to try and ensure that selling clubs actually received the money due to them. That only applied to the basic agreed fee and not to add-ons relating to appearances, international honours etc.
I think it was introduced at a time when several clubs went into administration and so made a lot of sense. I have no idea whether that provision has been modified but I suspect it has, given the financial madness that now prevails in the game.0 -
A reminder that we've received money from sell on agreements for Grant and Fosu, both originally sold under Roland. Indeed Thomas benefited both times0
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Surely they can’t look any further than the terms initially drawn up…….so not quite sure what you mean Mutts, any suggestions?MuttleyCAFC said:Burnley will be looking at ways to get out of paying us our share.
I’m sure they’d love to find a way to delay payments, especially given their current situation, something we need to watch out for….. I agree.
I hope we didn’t agree to stage payments as Burnley look like they could well be on a big downward spiral.0 -
If Burnley are due to front up 65 million now, why would it suit them to have money coming in in dribs and drabs?0
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This sell on fee was all part of the strategy. Who needs additional investors. We've made it.3
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I was thinking something in line with what Sage suggested. Sell two players to the one club and agree a lower price for Pope and a higher price for X where there isn't a sell on.SoundAsa£ said:
Surely they can’t look any further than the terms initially drawn up…….so not quite sure what you mean Mutts, any suggestions?MuttleyCAFC said:Burnley will be looking at ways to get out of paying us our share.
I’m sure they’d love to find a way to delay payments, especially given their current situation, something we need to watch out for….. I agree.
I hope we didn’t agree to stage payments as Burnley look like they could well be on a big downward spiral.1 -
This can't be true because Derby still haven't paid for Beilik and he's been there 3 years. If it was true they'd have had to cough up long before they went into administration.Blucher said:Some years ago, I’m pretty sure a rule was introduced whereby transfer fee instalments had to be paid within 12 months of the deal, the rationale being to try and protect buying clubs from spending beyond their means and to try and ensure that selling clubs actually received the money due to them. That only applied to the basic agreed fee and not to add-ons relating to appearances, international honours etc.
I think it was introduced at a time when several clubs went into administration and so made a lot of sense. I have no idea whether that provision has been modified but I suspect it has, given the financial madness that now prevails in the game.0 -
Interestingly……any profit we make from the deal is subject to us paying Bury Town FC (Bury st Edmunds),10% thereof.2
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Where did you see that? Should be enough to keep them going for a while.0
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Eh? You think they had some kind of sell on that covered the next 2 transfers?!?SoundAsa£ said:Interestingly……any profit we make from the deal is subject to us paying Bury Town FC (Bury st Edmunds),10% thereof.1 -
Surely any sell on fee to Bury would have been due when we sold him to Burnley ? Do they really have a sell on, sell on ?SoundAsa£ said:Interestingly……any profit we make from the deal is subject to us paying Bury Town FC (Bury st Edmunds),10% thereof.
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I believe it’s quite normal, the clause is normally on profit from the sale, any future payment we receive is still profit for us.SuedeAdidas said:
Eh? You think they had some kind of sell on that covered the next 2 transfers?!?SoundAsa£ said:Interestingly……any profit we make from the deal is subject to us paying Bury Town FC (Bury st Edmunds),10% thereof.2 -
seth plum said:If Burnley are due to front up 65 million now, why would it suit them to have money coming in in dribs and drabs?
The selling club will probably insist on such terms, it’s the possible for Burnley to sell those instalments to someone else in exchange for - less - instant cash, like we did when D. Bent moved to Spurs.seth plum said:If Burnley are due to front up 65 million now, why would it suit them to have money coming in in dribs and drabs?0 -
If Bury Town benefit somehow to me that is splendid. It feels right.14
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So, Fraser Forster is going to Spurs as back-up for Lloris. That's one potential route for Pope closed off.0
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Does that mean we'll get any profit from the sale of Lookman?Stu_of_Kunming said:
I believe it’s quite normal, the clause is normally on profit from the sale, any future payment we receive is still profit for us.SuedeAdidas said:
Eh? You think they had some kind of sell on that covered the next 2 transfers?!?SoundAsa£ said:Interestingly……any profit we make from the deal is subject to us paying Bury Town FC (Bury st Edmunds),10% thereof.0 - Sponsored links:
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Sam Johnstone going to Nigels and Henderson going to Newcastle. Imagine it’s West Ham or nothing for Pope0
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Yup. Pope will sign for someone at the same time as a journeyman Burnley player in a joint deal worth £20 million. Pope will be valued at £5 million and the young kid at £15 million.MuttleyCAFC said:Burnley will be looking at ways to get out of paying us our share.
I am getting very cynical in my old age.0 -
Given the financial state they're in (and the way Charlton's luck goes) it's more likely to be a random academy player for £20m and Pope on a free.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Yup. Pope will sign for someone at the same time as a journeyman Burnley player in a joint deal worth £20 million. Pope will be valued at £5 million and the young kid at £15 million.MuttleyCAFC said:Burnley will be looking at ways to get out of paying us our share.
I am getting very cynical in my old age.1 -
From our friend Nixon so i wouldn't read too much into it. There's no way Burnley sell for 10m.
NOTTINGHAM FOREST are ready to try their luck with a low bid for Burnley’s England keeper Nick Pope.
The Premier League new-boys want the impressive shot-stopper, who is keen to stay in the top-flight after the Clarets dropped down.
Pope, 30, is valued at 40 million and also fancied by promoted Fulham but neither of the outfits plan to go to that figure for their target.
Sources close to Pope think they can force through a deal at closer to £10m but that is being laughed off at Turf Moor.
But a compromise figure could be reached in the coming weeks.
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So let’s assume we now have a minimum.
10-2=8million.
20% of which is 1.6million.
That would be more money in than our total current season ticket sales.
I expect that to inch up, the only complicating factor is if Pope is actually sold and payment timescales.0 -
"Nottingham Forest have agreed a deal with Manchester United to sign 25-year-old English goalkeeper Dean Henderson on loan, with the option to buy for £20m".
If true then this means another club won't be signing Pope. At this rate knowing our luck, he'll end up staying.0 -
With Kompany’s arrival that wouldn’t shock me or maybe a loan deal in the hope they bounce straight back.Chris_from_Sidcup said:"Nottingham Forest have agreed a deal with Manchester United to sign 25-year-old English goalkeeper Dean Henderson on loan, with the option to buy for £20m".
If true then this means another club won't be signing Pope. At this rate knowing our luck, he'll end up staying.0 -
If Pope wants to go to the World Cup, he is going to have to be playing with in the Premier League. He may not feature for England but he will want the experience of a World Cup and at 30 it’s his last chance. Pope and his agent will be pushing for a move back to the Premier League, I have no doubt about that. Only a matter of time before he leaves.6
