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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,330
    edited June 11
    We'd easily be able to host a 16 stadium world cup, especially if we have 12 years to plan it.

    Straight off the bat you'd have:
    Wembley
    White Hart Lane
    Principality 
    Etihad
    Anfield
    Celtic Park 
    St James' Park
    Aviva
    Stadium Of Light
    New Birmingham Stadium 

    That's 10 grounds, ready to go, all above 40k.

    Given Qatar had all their stadiums in one city pretty much, and London is fucking huge, they should allow us Emirates, West Ham, maybe even Twickenham.

    You'd then probably see one of the Sheffield teams, Leeds, Bristol, Southampton, Coventry, Forest and a couple of others look to get in on the act and upgrade their stadiums for it too, it's easily done. 

  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,181
    The Anfield pitch is too small to count, I wouldn’t be surprised if the same goes for the ones at the bottom of that list too 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 14,121
    Think we should host the whole tournament on hackney marshes 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,330
    fenaddick said:
    The Anfield pitch is too small to count, I wouldn’t be surprised if the same goes for the ones at the bottom of that list too 
    Hill Dickinson then, also above 40k, or they raise the pitch up to make it bigger, as they've done in some of the NFL stadiums for this world cup

    Point is we can easily host it, without having to build half the stadiums from scratch in the middle of nowhere
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,375
    bobmunro said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    bobmunro said:
    Meanwhile England deemed not good enough to host a World Cup. What a farce. 

    FIFA despise England - probably more jealousy than anything else. 

    We are one of the few countries, maybe the only one, that could host a World Cup at 6 months notice. I firmly believe that, like The Open is played at the home of golf every 5 years or so, the World Cup should be played at the global home of football every 20 years or so. To have only hosted it once in nearly 100 years is a disgrace.


    We couldn’t host it within Fifa’s silly requirements. We simply don’t have the grounds big enough because some (like Anfield) don’t fit regulation and you can only have one city that has two stadiums. Four of the stadiums you’d want to use are in London. Outside of that you’re left with Old Trafford, Villa Park and St James Park. That isn’t enough infrastructure for Fifa’s rules 
    Is that true about 2 grounds per city? How many cities does Qatar have? 
    I assume they found a loophole/bribed their way out. And I believe it isn’t 2 per city, only 1 city can have 2. So you couldn’t use both Manchester grounds AND two London ones 
    Just classify them as difference cities. City fans are always saying United aren't in Manchester, as they are in Trafford not Manchester...

    Wouldn't need both - and OT is a shithole anyway.

    London - Wembley and Spurs
    Manchester - Ehtihad 
    Newcastle - St James
    Leeds - Elland Road
    Liverpool - Hill Dickinson
    Birmingham - Villa Park

    Throw in these for the lesser games:

    Nottingham - City Ground
    Derby - Pride Park
    Southampton - St Marys



    This wouldn't work because FIFA's requirements for stadiums are:

    All stadiums hosting quarters/semi must be minimum 60k.
    Final has to be above 80k capacity.

    These are obviously fine but the issue is all stadiums used must be minimum 40k which we don't have. With 48 teams at the WC now, the requirement is 16 stadiums. 

    We have 12 stadiums that are 40k+ and 5 are in London. You could add in Cardiff and Glasgow but unless they relax the rules on stadiums per city then it currently won't work.
     can't be many countries who could host a world cup by themselves now. No wonder it seems to be joint bids being the only way to get round this. We could go in with the whole of the UK, Ireland and maybe... erm, Holland? Or just with our pals France. 
    I think in Europe only Germany have the required stadiums to solely host it. Brazil can, but they only recently hosted one.

    Saudi are solely hosting the 2034 World cup and they currently have just TWO stadiums that fit the criteria. They need to build 10 new ones just for the world cup. FIFA will obviously again be relaxing the stadium rules per city though, because Riyadh will have 8 stadiums.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,373
    MrOneLung said:
    Dare I say we've looked a lot better since Bellingham went off
    pretty much all the pundits and talksport etc are suggesting Bellingham cemented his starting place
    he looked a different player last night, that midfield 3 surely picks itself at the moment - all class players
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,428
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,160
    MrOneLung said:
    Dare I say we've looked a lot better since Bellingham went off
    pretty much all the pundits and talksport etc are suggesting Bellingham cemented his starting place
    he looked a different player last night, that midfield 3 surely picks itself at the moment - all class players
    Starting to look like a real leader in this side as well. Led the press with his actions yesterday but was directing others in midfield on how and when to be aggressive in the press. Very impressive imo.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,763
    I wouldn't be sad if Rogers started over him
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,856
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.

    I have the complete opposite view. I think he’s the best player in the world at his best. 

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,160
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.

    I have the complete opposite view. I think he’s the best player in the world at his best. 
    Having missed a chunk of the season due to injury may actually be a benefit to him, he has had a rest but is back at full fitness at the right time and much fresher than those who have played a full season.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,856
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.

    I have the complete opposite view. I think he’s the best player in the world at his best. 
    Having missed a chunk of the season due to injury may actually be a benefit to him, he has had a rest but is back at full fitness at the right time and much fresher than those who have played a full season.
    Thought the same last night. Nice to have players that aren’t exhausted. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,375
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.
    He was awarded the England national teams player of the year for 24-25.

    Joined Dortmund at 17 and Real Madrid at 20 and at both clubs settled in immediately like he'd been a pro for 10-15 years. Before this season when he missed a few games through injury he was voted in the Bundesliga team of the season (21-22 & 22-23) and La Liga team of the season (23-24 & 24-25).

    He's one of the first names on the team sheet for the biggest club in the world so i'd argue he's not overrated at all, he's rated because he deserves to be.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,375
    We also would've gone out of the Euro's in the last 16 if it wasn't for him scoring a last minute overhead kick out of nowhere v Slovakia to take us to extra time. You have someone like Bellingham in the team because he can produce moments like that.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,761
    edited June 11
    bobmunro said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    bobmunro said:
    Meanwhile England deemed not good enough to host a World Cup. What a farce. 

    FIFA despise England - probably more jealousy than anything else. 

    We are one of the few countries, maybe the only one, that could host a World Cup at 6 months notice. I firmly believe that, like The Open is played at the home of golf every 5 years or so, the World Cup should be played at the global home of football every 20 years or so. To have only hosted it once in nearly 100 years is a disgrace.


    We couldn’t host it within Fifa’s silly requirements. We simply don’t have the grounds big enough because some (like Anfield) don’t fit regulation and you can only have one city that has two stadiums. Four of the stadiums you’d want to use are in London. Outside of that you’re left with Old Trafford, Villa Park and St James Park. That isn’t enough infrastructure for Fifa’s rules 
    Is that true about 2 grounds per city? How many cities does Qatar have? 
    I assume they found a loophole/bribed their way out. And I believe it isn’t 2 per city, only 1 city can have 2. So you couldn’t use both Manchester grounds AND two London ones 
    Just classify them as difference cities. City fans are always saying United aren't in Manchester, as they are in Trafford not Manchester...

    Wouldn't need both - and OT is a shithole anyway.

    London - Wembley and Spurs
    Manchester - Ehtihad 
    Newcastle - St James
    Leeds - Elland Road
    Liverpool - Hill Dickinson
    Birmingham - Villa Park

    Throw in these for the lesser games:

    Nottingham - City Ground
    Derby - Pride Park
    Southampton - St Marys



    This wouldn't work because FIFA's requirements for stadiums are:

    All stadiums hosting quarters/semi must be minimum 60k.
    Final has to be above 80k capacity.

    These are obviously fine but the issue is all stadiums used must be minimum 40k which we don't have. With 48 teams at the WC now, the requirement is 16 stadiums. 

    We have 12 stadiums that are 40k+ and 5 are in London. You could add in Cardiff and Glasgow but unless they relax the rules on stadiums per city then it currently won't work.
     can't be many countries who could host a world cup by themselves now. No wonder it seems to be joint bids being the only way to get round this. We could go in with the whole of the UK, Ireland and maybe... erm, Holland? Or just with our pals France. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92CzN9F270
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,967
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.
    It's an odd one. I rate him, but not as a 10.
    I just don't think he links up with Kane very well.
    And that is a problem.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,682
    fenaddick said:
    bobmunro said:
    Meanwhile England deemed not good enough to host a World Cup. What a farce. 

    FIFA despise England - probably more jealousy than anything else. 

    We are one of the few countries, maybe the only one, that could host a World Cup at 6 months notice. I firmly believe that, like The Open is played at the home of golf every 5 years or so, the World Cup should be played at the global home of football every 20 years or so. To have only hosted it once in nearly 100 years is a disgrace.


    We couldn’t host it within Fifa’s silly requirements. We simply don’t have the grounds big enough because some (like Anfield) don’t fit regulation and you can only have one city that has two stadiums. Four of the stadiums you’d want to use are in London. Outside of that you’re left with Old Trafford, Villa Park and St James Park. That isn’t enough infrastructure for Fifa’s rules 
    FIFA's silly requirements seem to become infinitely more flexible when it suits them...

    I appear to be the only person in the world who thought the foul on Gordon should have been a penalty, unless the rules have been changed and it's only awarded when the clash is between legs?

    He was off balance, and in the process of righting himself when he was clearly pushed in the back which sent him to the floor and prevented him recovering the ball. It wasn't a huge shove, but it was sufficient to send him tumbling - he didn't dive or he would have been booked. How is that not a penalty? 

    On another note, I thought I heard the commentator say that from corners or free kicks shoving in the box before the ball was kicked will be reviewed, but action will only be taken if it's decided the attacking team are at fault? Did I hear right?   
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,761
    edited June 11
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.
    It's an odd one. I rate him, but not as a 10.
    I just don't think he links up with Kane very well.
    And that is a problem.
    2025/26 season
    StatisticJude BellinghamMorgan Rogers
    Appearances4055
    Goals814
    Assists512


    Rogers all day long.


  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,951
    edited June 11
    It's a game for 16 players per team now and has been for some time so I'm not sure why we still have this endless debate on CL and every TV and social media outlet about the starters or game changers in a match. Especially in midfield and in forward positions where a 65/35 (with added time) will occur in most matches in these conditions let alone for tactical reasons.

    Tuchel has let Bellingham know and the media know that past reputations means nothing it's your form now and Jude is responding and after a disappointing season with injuries and a slight fall off this vastly talented player could be just reaching top form and if he stays fit could have a brilliant tournament. 

    We were spoilt for choice in midfield and that's why Palmer Foden and Gibbs-White didn't even make the squad.

    You would think the midfield players that started last night would start but Rodgers is a gifted attacking midfielder and Bellingham is versatile enough to adapt if we suddenly don't need wide players on both sides.

    We have more decent options than normal.
    Bizarrely I will get it in early and it's Pickford who may struggle in this WC; not sure why I'm getting this bad vibe ?

    Tuchel gig and be interesting to see how he uses the 16 players during the 100 minutes or so of most games.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,568
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.

    I have the complete opposite view. I think he’s the best player in the world at his best. 
    I think it is sometimes hard to see, but he is everywhere, strong, composed and makes things happen. 
    If u watch Madrid v munich first leg this year, Madrid could not get near the ball, then brought on bellingham and he completely changed the game. 

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  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,568
    Quite like eze as well! What a player 
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,568
    Although dont think we talk about not having walker anymore enough. He shut down a lot of class wingers 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,181
    2121 said:
    Although dont think we talk about not having walker anymore enough. He shut down a lot of class wingers 
    The game has changed though. Reece James has the pace needed for that and playing CB’s like Konsa or Quansah there adds a defensive solidity 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,375
    bobmunro said:
    I seem to be in the minority but I don't get the hype with Bellingham at all.
    .
    He has a shitty attitude & England always seem to play worse when he's in the team

    Just my view, but I think he's massively overrated, both individually & as part of the team.
    It's an odd one. I rate him, but not as a 10.
    I just don't think he links up with Kane very well.
    And that is a problem.
    2025/26 season
    StatisticJude BellinghamMorgan Rogers
    Appearances4055
    Goals814
    Assists512


    Rogers all day long.


    Bellingham did have his season interrupted by two injuries though, and Rogers played in the Europa league.

    Don't get me wrong, i think Rogers is a very good player and i'm glad he's in the squad but if you offered all the top clubs a choice of signing him or Bellingham i'm convinced that most would choose Bellingham.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 7,922
    2121 said:
    Although dont think we talk about not having walker anymore enough. He shut down a lot of class wingers 
    Reece James also had the benefit of being a technically better footballer. 

    With him and O’Reilly as our wingbacks we become a threat from the back too. 

    The only thing I feel we’re missing is a real Ariel threat like Maguire. Burn off the bench will have to do.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,682
    I am going to repeat my question, as I think my ranting on about the "penalty" probably sent a few people to sleep before I got to it... 

    On another note, I thought I heard the commentator say that from corners or free kicks shoving in the box before the ball was kicked will be reviewed, but action will only be taken if it's decided the attacking team are at fault? Did I hear right?   
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,733
    Correct Algarve