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Miles Leaburn - club have triggered contract extension to June 2026 (p55)

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  • We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
  • We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
  • follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
  • He has had more than one injury.  He missed time at the beginning of 23 season and a smaller stretch the year before. He also had a couple of injuries coming up through the youth ranks.  He is not Chuks but he has a history of getting injured.  prospective teams will know this.
  • Had he not been injured last season, he probably wouldn’t be here now.
    The big question mark over Leaburn is his injury record. Will keep any fee on the low side for now.

    If Miles stays fit and does well then undoubtedly he will be on his way. 
  • If he’s smart, he’ll realize that if he gets this stage of his development right, he can go on to start games regularly in the Premier League and earn far far more than $10k a week for years to come. Make the jump to a premier league academy too soon and he could easily get lost in the numbers and stagnate/go backwards. 
    He will not make a move to a Premier league academy he is far to good for that. He will move for first team football not academy.
  • He has had more than one injury.  He missed time at the beginning of 23 season and a smaller stretch the year before. He also had a couple of injuries coming up through the youth ranks.  He is not Chuks but he has a history of getting injured.  prospective teams will know this.
    Just a clarification, he had growing pains coming through youth ranks which is why Chelsea released him. Not a sports injury that has any relevance whatsoever now.
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  • Lookman had played for us in the Championship the season before, and had England U19 and U20 caps, which will have increased his fee. 
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  • He has had more than one injury.  He missed time at the beginning of 23 season and a smaller stretch the year before. He also had a couple of injuries coming up through the youth ranks.  He is not Chuks but he has a history of getting injured.  prospective teams will know this.
    Just a clarification, he had growing pains coming through youth ranks which is why Chelsea released him. Not a sports injury that has any relevance whatsoever now.
    And a further clarification. He was injured in pre season last season because we insisted on playing a pub team pre season, whose centre back wanted to show how hard he was. His second more serious injury occured after we threw him back in full tilt because there was no one else to partner May. 

    I don’t think that makes him “injury prone” at all. 
  • follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
  • follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
  • he now looks fit and motivated and fits into the most recent pattern of play .. by the end of 2026 he will either be an important part of a newly promoted team or worth even more if/when he moves on
  • se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    The SLP said we rejected £3m in summer 2023 from a German club, so I don't think we can assume that.
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  • se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    If we take under £3M doesn’t look good on SMT, suggests that they ain’t getting any more money from the owners. Also when you consider what they’ve done in the transfer market, not sure if they could pick up some margins to replace Leaburn.
  • se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    No way we should take £2-3M. 
    Worth more playing and scoring.

    I said no less than £5M for May at end if last season. Same reason. Worth more to us playing and scoring than e.g. £1M

    Getting carried away? Not so sure


  • He’s benefitting from having Campbell and Small near him now.  Jones has either seen the light or got lucky, but Miles is benefitting .  
  • wmcf123 said:
    He’s benefitting from having Campbell and Small near him now.  Jones has either seen the light or got lucky, but Miles is benefitting .  
    100% this and it’s the basis of our whole transformation over the last few games - he won’t be in a rush to leave all the time his stock is rising by every goal and performance post injury - it suits him and us 
  • se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    If we take under £3M doesn’t look good on SMT, suggests that they ain’t getting any more money from the owners. Also when you consider what they’ve done in the transfer market, not sure if they could pick up some margins to replace Leaburn.
    How about we keep our best players and improve the squad?
    Oops, I forgot, there is not much money in the pot.
  • se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    I’m not deluding myself about anything, I have no trust whatsoever in our board, however, that doesn’t change what a realistic market value of Leaburn is/ should be. 

    Don’t delude yourself that his market value is less than it is just because our desperate board might take a quick buck 
  • se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    I’m not deluding myself about anything, I have no trust whatsoever in our board, however, that doesn’t change what a realistic market value of Leaburn is/ should be. 

    Don’t delude yourself that his market value is less than it is just because our desperate board might take a quick buck 
    His “market value” is simply how much someone is willing to pay, and how much we are willing to sell for. Has nothing to do with the transfer fee paid for Luke Varney decades ago. 
  • se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    I’m not deluding myself about anything, I have no trust whatsoever in our board, however, that doesn’t change what a realistic market value of Leaburn is/ should be. 

    Don’t delude yourself that his market value is less than it is just because our desperate board might take a quick buck 
    His “market value” is simply how much someone is willing to pay, and how much we are willing to sell for. Has nothing to do with the transfer fee paid for Luke Varney decades ago. 
    You're correct about market value, but until you enter the market, estimated valuations and what as a seller you are likely to seek is generally based on comparables. 

    You can ignore Luke Varney if you want, but there are many comparables which would indicate a much higher market value than £2m, and as much as I don't trust the current ownership - I'm certainly glad you are not at the helm as going in for £2m would be abysmal negotiation and management given Leaburn's age, record and visible potential
  • se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    follett said:
    follett said:
    We got £2m for mason burstow after he played 7 games. There is just no doubt that Leaburn must be a minimum of twice that 
    Burstow was 2 years younger and not off the back of a serious injury. If we get offered over £5m in Jan then the club 100% takes it, I just can't see that happening.
    Don’t see the age as relevant. Miles is extremely young and has his entire career ahead of him in reality, and has demonstrated about 30 times the potential that burstow did. The injury is relevant but as only 1 injury I don’t think hugely in terms of value. 
    Burstow's age made it easier to take a punt on him. Even after failed loans back at us and then Sunderland, Chelsea still turned a slight profit on his transfer fee two years down the line.

    I agree Leaburn is a better player than Burstow although think he's far off where Lookman was. I expect him to go in the summer and I hope to be proven wrong about his fee but just struggle to see it being anymore than £5m unless he really sets the second half of the season alight.

    I think we get carried away at times, people wanted £5m for May
    I agree people get carried away on the whole but I don’t agree at all that burstows age made it easier to take a punt on him. Leaburn is only 21! That is prime age, and there are several examples of players going for substantial money at a similar age and with less evidence of pedigree. 

    I mean let’s roll this back… we paid 2.5m for Luke Varney when he was 25 years of age based on a couple of seasons for Crewe. That was almost 20 years ago. Leaburn aged 21 with the record he has to date must command AT LEAST the equivalent fee in real terms today which allowing for inflation again takes you to 5m or more (not all up front, obviously). 
    Bloody hell, using Luke Varney as a bench mark for what we should be getting for Miles Leaburn is really reaching. 

    If we get offered £2M - £3M I think we’d take it, £5M and we definitely would. Don’t delude yourselves that we’ll be seeing much more than that. 
    I’m not deluding myself about anything, I have no trust whatsoever in our board, however, that doesn’t change what a realistic market value of Leaburn is/ should be. 

    Don’t delude yourself that his market value is less than it is just because our desperate board might take a quick buck 
    His “market value” is simply how much someone is willing to pay, and how much we are willing to sell for. Has nothing to do with the transfer fee paid for Luke Varney decades ago. 
    You're correct about market value, but until you enter the market, estimated valuations and what as a seller you are likely to seek is generally based on comparables. 

    You can ignore Luke Varney if you want, but there are many comparables which would indicate a much higher market value than £2m, and as much as I don't trust the current ownership - I'm certainly glad you are not at the helm as going in for £2m would be abysmal negotiation and management given Leaburn's age, record and visible potential
    However, offer 2 million, offer Leaburn 25k a week, he'd not want to play for us.
    A scenario on him getting tapped up.
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