Miles Leaburn - Signs New 3 Year Contract (p77)

arny23394

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

fenaddick

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

He played on the left a fair amount at the start of the season to be fair.

He definitely drifts in and out of games but he does have a knack of arriving into the box at just the right time. It's almost instinctual, could see him working really well with a Godden type player

ElfsborgAddick

fenaddick said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

He played on the left a fair amount at the start of the season to be fair.

He definitely drifts in and out of games but he does have a knack of arriving into the box at just the right time. It's almost instinctual, could see him working really well with a Godden type player

I wonder how many more games he'll start for us.

fenaddick

ElfsborgAddick said:

fenaddick said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

He played on the left a fair amount at the start of the season to be fair.

He definitely drifts in and out of games but he does have a knack of arriving into the box at just the right time. It's almost instinctual, could see him working really well with a Godden type player

I wonder how many more games he'll start for us.

I'd bet my house on it being less than 10, wouldn't even surprise me if it was less than 5

ElfsborgAddick

fenaddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

fenaddick said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

He played on the left a fair amount at the start of the season to be fair.

He definitely drifts in and out of games but he does have a knack of arriving into the box at just the right time. It's almost instinctual, could see him working really well with a Godden type player

I wonder how many more games he'll start for us.

I'd bet my house on it being less than 10, wouldn't even surprise me if it was less than 5

I wish I could disagree with this.

A fit Godden who could start 25 games a season for us would have changed things a lot, for the better.

Crispywood

fenaddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

fenaddick said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

He played on the left a fair amount at the start of the season to be fair.

He definitely drifts in and out of games but he does have a knack of arriving into the box at just the right time. It's almost instinctual, could see him working really well with a Godden type player

I wonder how many more games he'll start for us.

I'd bet my house on it being less than 10, wouldn't even surprise me if it was less than 5

I’d go one further and say if Mbick isn’t sold in Jan could see Godden leaving on loan for his final 6 months 

superclive98

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

That's a very simplistic way of looking at a player's contribution.

Sword65pf

superclive98 said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

That's a very simplistic way of looking at a player's contribution.

And making him sound better than he’s been

superclive98

Sword65pf said:

superclive98 said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

That's a very simplistic way of looking at a player's contribution.

And making him sound better than he’s been

Precisely.

aso914

I still believe in his potential but I don’t think he’s ready to be a leading striker in a championship squad yet. A good league one loan might be beneficial to find his finishing. 

DamoNorthStand

He has so many great attributes as a footballer but the simple fact is he has scored 0 goals.

Some of that is down to how we play, but he simply has to score more goals.

ForeverAddickted

Should have scored the header today or at least gotten it on target, its then his pass behind Grant that stops Karlen from being able to bury it in an empty net.

The trouble is I'm still loath to see him dropped as we saw once he was subbed off vs. Bristol City how things would stick up front even less after he went off... Footballers can impact a game, more than just through simple stats

Laddick01

Do rate his all round game but you have to feel that with a clinical striker in his position we’d be 3/6 points better off already. 

For how tall he is, he’s shocking with his head in opponents area.

Croydon

I dont think he's good enough to lead the line on his own. Has a flash of brilliance each game, but can't score and can't hold the ball up. Watford's 9 turned a long ball into attack so often for them today. Something we desperately need. 

BigRedEvil

He needs to score goals, we can't afford non scoring forwards in this side. Dykes has 4 this season and was derided by some on here as not being needed 

bolloxbolder

We have to try MBick.  There's no one else 

Scoham

bolloxbolder said:

We have to try MBick.  There's no one else 

Same goes for Mwamba and Nkeng for me - just not at the same time.

Elthamaddick

The chance today on 8 mins, he has to at least hit the target 

think he’s playing really well but needs to start scoring 

oohaahmortimer

I like him , there’s a player there but with our lack of creativity chances are few and far between .
Stick him in the scums side and I’m sure he’d have a few goals , I mean that lisbie even scored today and pace apart he doesn’t look the greatest (as he goes on to score 25 goals and fires them to promotion)

fenaddick

NJ pretty scathing about Leaburn to Louis. Would be surprised if he starts next week 

SELR_addicks

30 games starting - 0 goals. 

EugenesAxe

SELR_addicks said:

30 games starting - 0 goals. 

that's understandable for a GK...

Alwaysneil

Mmmm, i can understand being frustrated as if leaburn scores we prob go on to win  but throwing players under a bus is never a good look for a manager

AberystwythAddick

In the right team Leaburn is certainly an asset. The way we play and our lack of goals creates a pressure on him that wouldn’t be apparent elsewhere 

ElfsborgAddick

superclive98 said:

arny23394 said:

superclive98 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I'm not overly concerned about Miles and his lack of goals, because apart from the header vs. Burnley, how many chances can you say there has been moment where we've gone: "Miles you've wasted that" or "Miles why werent you there at the end of that ball" - The moment we start having to do that, there's a problem

This is where I am with Miles.
I think that his overall play has been excellent.
When he starts getting and missing chances then people can complain.
Because of the way we play, if we take Miles out of the line-up we would create less.
Grant has been disappointing and he is the player that I would remove and give Kelman a go.

Grant hasn’t been great, but he’s earned us 4 points whilst not playing a minute in his actual position 

That's a very simplistic way of looking at a player's contribution.

Don't worry about that mate, some think Leaburn having not scored all season is an asset.

You could not make it up.

ElfsborgAddick

DamoNorthStand said:

He has so many great attributes as a footballer but the simple fact is he has scored 0 goals.

Some of that is down to how we play, but he simply has to score more goals.

He'll probably score more playing centre half.

ElfsborgAddick

SELR_addicks said:

30 games starting - 0 goals. 

Is this a fact?

ElfsborgAddick

Alwaysneil said:

Mmmm, i can understand being frustrated as if leaburn scores we prob go on to win  but throwing players under a bus is never a good look for a manager

Absolutely.

Behind all this I'd not be surprised if players are happy on the training ground.

DamoNorthStand

We can dress it up in as many ways as possible but the simple fact is he is a striker who doesn’t score.

In a team as blunt as we are in front of goal that’s not good enough.

Now clearly we have to create more chances but if we did manage to do that, it’s Kelman I would want them falling to

hudson-son-son

He definitely has to score more, but there is a tonne of talent there and seems baffling to call him out in this way, or suggest he's about to get benched. We aren't putting him in the best place to succeed with our lack of attacking options.

I think Nathan is right to expect more goals, but I think it's odd to call out a player who is offering as much as he is elsewhere, it's not like he's playing lazily or not making runs.

I think I'd first look at someone like Karlan who should really be benefitting from Leaburn's build up and hold up play to score some goals in his space, and as that hasn't quite worked, see how we can get Kelman in alongside him.