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Post-match Thread: Fleetwood v Charlton | Saturday 17 September 2022 3:00PM

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  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,018
    edited September 2022
    wmcf123 said:
    Croydon said:
    Much better second half but that is a really crap result for a team that's supposedly after promotion. 
    Who thought we were after promotion with that squad ?
    Sandgaards 🤔
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    mendonca said:
    Bailey said:
    mendonca said:
    0 goals in 9 from Open play for Captain Stockley now. 
    Fuck me give it rest, play a system that puts crosses into our only centre forward then you might see a change in those stats, then you would have to find another scapegoat. 
    You are assuming that I am not making the same eloquent point as you? 
    I apologise if you are but I think the continued chasing down of one of our, in my opinion, better players is wearing, he needs support Mendonca from nearly everyone. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    wmcf123 said:
    Bailey said:
    mendonca said:
    0 goals in 9 from Open play for Captain Stockley now. 
    Fuck me give it rest, play a system that puts crosses into our only centre forward then you might see a change in those stats, then you would have to find another scapegoat. 
    How many goals are scored from aerial crosses into the box these days ?
    I actually don't know but go on enlighten me 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Bailey said:
    mendonca said:
    0 goals in 9 from Open play for Captain Stockley now. 
    Fuck me give it rest, play a system that puts crosses into our only centre forward then you might see a change in those stats, then you would have to find another scapegoat. 
    How many goals are scored from aerial crosses into the box these days ?
    I actually don't know but go on enlighten me 
    The one we conceded was from a cross wasn't it, so that's one. 
  • alburyaddick
    alburyaddick Posts: 574
    Shrew said:
    Back home in Shropshire, I’ve enjoyed all the northern away matches this season so far , despite the results, After 50 years of watching Charlton I’m used to it, by far the must depressing thing is reading comments on here and seeing so many empty seats at the valley. If you think that not being promoted is disastrous your supporting the wrong team. The football is so much better to watch then last year and I’m still stupidly hopeful every Saturday. Cheers to everyone who travelled much further then me today 
    I generally agree with this / I think the football is better than last year but it is very disappointing that we didn’t recruit another decent striker (or kept Washington ) 
    which would have made all the difference 
    lyle Taylor would score 25 goals in this team given the amount of possession we have particularly at home. We might not get promoted but we do need to have the hope and expectation that we will be competitive at the top end rather than battling in the bottom half 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,169
    We look like drawing a lot of games this season. Even with Stockley struggling we look like scoring most matches, but we’re inconsistent, even across 90 minutes, and will give away few good chances to the opposition as well. Not prolific scorers and not water tight defensively = draw specialists, likely = mid table, probably bottom half.

    Not impossible this gets better but we’ve gone backwards in many ways compared to earlier games. I would say only O’Connell and Fraser have got better as the season has gone on.

    I agree with Curbs post match, whatever system we settle on it needs to be designed to get the best out of our double barrelled wingers CBT and JRS because when they’re at it fullbacks at this level can’t live with them. Sticking one up front and one at wing back is not the way to get the best out of them. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Bailey said:
    mendonca said:
    0 goals in 9 from Open play for Captain Stockley now. 
    Fuck me give it rest, play a system that puts crosses into our only centre forward then you might see a change in those stats, then you would have to find another scapegoat. 
    How many goals are scored from aerial crosses into the box these days ?
    I actually don't know but go on enlighten me 
    The one we conceded was from a cross wasn't it, so that's one. 
    I suspect far fewer than there were 30 years ago.  I’d rather we ditched Stockley , rather than changed approach to suit him
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Shrew said:
    Back home in Shropshire, I’ve enjoyed all the northern away matches this season so far , despite the results, After 50 years of watching Charlton I’m used to it, by far the must depressing thing is reading comments on here and seeing so many empty seats at the valley. If you think that not being promoted is disastrous your supporting the wrong team. The football is so much better to watch then last year and I’m still stupidly hopeful every Saturday. Cheers to everyone who travelled much further then me today 
    Agree the football Is better, but still turd. It's just so uninspiring and I think that shows with the attendances at the valley and even away matches, also the pricing is poor. I don't "expect" Charlton to get promoted. But expect us to have a challenge for top 6. However I can barely see us finishing top half. For me that last day of the transfer window was a massive kick in the balls, and reality sunk in that it's going to be just the same as last year.  I really don't think I can have another season like that. But things can change quickly in football. 
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    Fleetwood, Ipswich and Portsmouth the only teams to have lost fewer games than us this season. 

    Only Morecambe and Burton have won fewer.

    Fleetwood the only side to have drawn more than us too.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Clayden hasn't just suddenly become a first team player because we want to save money. He really is not good enough. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    AdTheAddicK said:
    Shrew said:
    Back home in Shropshire, I’ve enjoyed all the northern away matches this season so far , despite the results, After 50 years of watching Charlton I’m used to it, by far the must depressing thing is reading comments on here and seeing so many empty seats at the valley. If you think that not being promoted is disastrous your supporting the wrong team. The football is so much better to watch then last year and I’m still stupidly hopeful every Saturday. Cheers to everyone who travelled much further then me today 
    Agree the football Is better, but still turd. It's just so uninspiring and I think that shows with the attendances at the valley and even away matches, also the pricing is poor. I don't "expect" Charlton to get promoted. But expect us to have a challenge for top 6. However I can barely see us finishing top half. For me that last day of the transfer window was a massive kick in the balls, and reality sunk in that it's going to be just the same as last year.  I really don't think I can have another season like that. But things can change quickly in football. 
    Away matches?
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,027
    sam3110 said:
    Shrew said:
    Back home in Shropshire, I’ve enjoyed all the northern away matches this season so far , despite the results, After 50 years of watching Charlton I’m used to it, by far the must depressing thing is reading comments on here and seeing so many empty seats at the valley. If you think that not being promoted is disastrous your supporting the wrong team. The football is so much better to watch then last year and I’m still stupidly hopeful every Saturday. Cheers to everyone who travelled much further then me today 
    There is no way on God's Green Earth that anyone associated with our club should accept mid table mediocrity in the third tier FFS. It's that acceptance of absolute shit that allows Sandgaard and the fucking chancers before him to get away with being terrible owners. 
    So people moan about it ad nauseam. What good does that do? You think we don't know where the club is at?
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,380
    AFKABartram said:
    The FAT F*CK Stand ???


    The exit points seem a little....gynaecological? .... am i sick?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,827
    KiwiValley said:
    AFKABartram said:
    The FAT F*CK Stand ???


    The exit points seem a little....gynaecological? .... am i sick?
    “Like chucking a chipolata into the Block C exit”
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    The football has become unwatchable again after a good start to the season. 
    Even with exciting players like CBT, Rak, and Leaburn - we still look like a plodding big standard mid table L1 side. 
    Just ban sideways passes and things will change. 
    I’m already fed up of watching Garnerballs  
    Get the ball to the wing, and then cross with first touch. 
    It’s not rocket technology Ben. 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    wmcf123 said:
    Bailey said:
    mendonca said:
    0 goals in 9 from Open play for Captain Stockley now. 
    Fuck me give it rest, play a system that puts crosses into our only centre forward then you might see a change in those stats, then you would have to find another scapegoat. 
    How many goals are scored from aerial crosses into the box these days ?
    We've conceded about 10 goals already this season from crosses, aerial or otherwise. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is the goal Plymouth scored against us.
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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    clb74 said:
    AdTheAddicK said:
    Shrew said:
    Back home in Shropshire, I’ve enjoyed all the northern away matches this season so far , despite the results, After 50 years of watching Charlton I’m used to it, by far the must depressing thing is reading comments on here and seeing so many empty seats at the valley. If you think that not being promoted is disastrous your supporting the wrong team. The football is so much better to watch then last year and I’m still stupidly hopeful every Saturday. Cheers to everyone who travelled much further then me today 
    Agree the football Is better, but still turd. It's just so uninspiring and I think that shows with the attendances at the valley and even away matches, also the pricing is poor. I don't "expect" Charlton to get promoted. But expect us to have a challenge for top 6. However I can barely see us finishing top half. For me that last day of the transfer window was a massive kick in the balls, and reality sunk in that it's going to be just the same as last year.  I really don't think I can have another season like that. But things can change quickly in football. 
    Away matches?
    Away attendance has dropped massively. Loads of things at play to attribute to that, but we are definitely taking less away than we did last season. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,071
    seth plum said:
    Still six points behind target. If JRS had finished it could be down to four.
    Mind you at half time it looked as if the deficit would be up to seven.
    Barnsley is now a must win.
    Barnsley is not a must win.
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    edited September 2022
    wmcf123 said:
    Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Bailey said:
    mendonca said:
    0 goals in 9 from Open play for Captain Stockley now. 
    Fuck me give it rest, play a system that puts crosses into our only centre forward then you might see a change in those stats, then you would have to find another scapegoat. 
    How many goals are scored from aerial crosses into the box these days ?
    I actually don't know but go on enlighten me 
    The one we conceded was from a cross wasn't it, so that's one. 
    I suspect far fewer than there were 30 years ago.  I’d rather we ditched Stockley , rather than changed approach to suit him
    On what planet does this make any sense. Maybe I’ve been exposed to some odd US coaching ideas, but successful coaches design around the players they have, not around the players the don’t. 

    If you have one consistently fit striker (Stockley) who showed he could score goals in a shit team last year, what is point of playing to his weaknesses. You may as well not play him - so it’s either Leaburn or?  

    At this point, getting to January where reinforcements can make a difference is the important thing. Stockley is what you have, use him correctly. If you want to stick to a style of play that doesn’t suit him, that’s the manager’s fault, unless he can find a striking option that works from either his midfielders of the youth team. 
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134
    MeebaumAzanitch said:
    That's it from me, all things Charlton. 55 years a Charlton supporter - cannot take any more crap. Lower half  league one side with a Premiership stadium ain't gonna get any better soon. Good Bye!
    Anyone else getting sick of posts like this? 
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    Not sure if it’s been mentioned but I’m not entirely convinced that wollacott is any better than mcgavillary. Haven’t ever seen a keeper look so nervous and therefore it’s rubbing off on the defence 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    10 pts from 9 games.  Extrapolate that out over a season and that’s pure, unadulterated league one consolidationism.  Nothing’s changed from last season other than some new faces.  Today those that blithely cling to hope talk of Egbo as a new face that might make a difference.  We do this time and time again.  Delusion takes over our senses, if draws became wins, the second half showed more promise.  We’re exactly where we were this time a year ago, it’s the same jigsaw with the pieces arranged in a different way. 

    We try and pick the positives out of 2 consecutive 1-1 draws with FGR and Fleetwood.  How many times have we played Fleetwood since 2016?  That tells you all you need to know 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,633
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Not sure if it’s been mentioned but I’m not entirely convinced that wollacott is any better than mcgavillary. Haven’t ever seen a keeper look so nervous and therefore it’s rubbing off on the defence 
    You'll.find out next week. Woolacott is away on International duty. 

    And then there us the World Cup in November & December. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    HandG said:
    MeebaumAzanitch said:
    That's it from me, all things Charlton. 55 years a Charlton supporter - cannot take any more crap. Lower half  league one side with a Premiership stadium ain't gonna get any better soon. Good Bye!
    Anyone else getting sick of posts like this? 
    No. They’re hilarious. 
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,027
    edited September 2022
    Airman Brown said:
    If we’re not beating the likes of Cambridge, FGR and Fleetwood and another dozen clubs in this division more times than not then we know the club is underperforming, given the disparity in resources. I have no idea why we would settle for that. 
    Not sure anyone would settle for that. Realistic solutions as to what we could do to improve things would be welcome, though.

    All very well telling an owner he should splash the cash but not that practical when he is looking at the bigger picture - his business's future in the current economic climate.

    A simple and obvious wish to meet our expectations and entitlements, is to encourage him to sell to a party with no such financial concerns. Or maybe rustle up some investors?
    Ideas, anyone?

    As I said, it's easy to tell others what they should do for our needs and wants.

    And don't think for one minute I am not totally pee'd off with the current situation but there's bugger all I can do to effectively change it.

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