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FIFA World Cup - Qatar 2022
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Even technology has limitations. The frequency and timing of measurement, margin for error in equipment etc. Nothing is 100% perfect. Goal line technology is definitely more accurate and reliable than a linesman. Even with tech, in really tight situations like that, you might get a wrong call. But it's the most accurate way we currently have to deciding if a ball has crossed the goal/byline or not, so we have to accept the call it makes.
I always find it weird, because one of the reasons some people say they don't want technology aiding officials it is removes the chance for random wrong decisions and talking points after a match. But when we get one of those kinds of calls with the tech, everyone piles on the hate for VAR.3 -
A great day for the World Cup. Yesterday was incredibly exciting, but ended with a terrible Poland team squeaking through, whereas today delivered shock exits.
Tomorrow's groups look less exciting, with the big teams already through, so going to Charlton is an easier decision!
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I’m saying teams from 4 years ago we played were pony then (Belgium apart)Manic_mania said:
so.. you agree with me then..?oohaahmortimer said:
Don’t think we played Germany and Denmark 4 years agoManic_mania said:
yeah... because teams are always as good as they were 4 years previously... loloohaahmortimer said:Germany and Denmark proving we got a bye to the final in the euros as well as the last World Cup to the final
you forgot about Belgium in our group btw
bye for the whole tournament right??
Belgium were good 4 years ago
all the other shit we played were pony 4 years ago
teams being good in the past doesn't = good now.
glad we cleared that up
and teams last year in euros were pony and we duly dispatched all the pony teams
except Croatia 4 years ago
and if it helps a team is likely to be nearer to how they were 17 months on rather than 53 months on0 -
Leaving on a jet plane tra la la……
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Yeah you're right. England should have just trounced everyone based on performances of those teams 18 months later in a completely different tournament on another continent.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m saying teams from 4 years ago we played were pony then (Belgium apart)Manic_mania said:
so.. you agree with me then..?oohaahmortimer said:
Don’t think we played Germany and Denmark 4 years agoManic_mania said:
yeah... because teams are always as good as they were 4 years previously... loloohaahmortimer said:Germany and Denmark proving we got a bye to the final in the euros as well as the last World Cup to the final
you forgot about Belgium in our group btw bye for the whole tournament right??
Belgium were good 4 years ago
all the other shit we played were pony 4 years ago
teams being good in the past doesn't = good now.
glad we cleared that up
and teams last year in euros were pony and we duly dispatched all the pony teams
except Croatia 4 years ago
and if it helps a team is likely to be nearer to how they were 17 months on rather than 53 months on
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It would seem that Germany have forgotten how to claw their way to finals. This ability used to annoy me as they were seldom the best team so I am happy they don't have it anymore.
As for Spain. Well I hope they go out as I hate Tiki Taka. I believe any tactic is acceptable if you win but make an exception for that as it is like watching paint dry even though it requires a lot of flexibility and ability through the team. It just irritates me.6 -
Posted this three hours ago - the double was about 250/1, and it looked on for a couple of minutes in that second half!Callumcafc said:
Two unlikely upsets knocks out both Spain and Germany...killerandflash said:Hard to see Germany and Spain not winning tonight. Japan will be cursing not beating Costa Rica, that result threw Germany a lifeline, which I'm sure they'll take.1 -
Is there a lot of controversy over in Germany @GermanAddick ?0
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I've never heard such a load of old cobblers.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m saying teams from 4 years ago we played were pony then (Belgium apart)Manic_mania said:
so.. you agree with me then..?oohaahmortimer said:
Don’t think we played Germany and Denmark 4 years agoManic_mania said:
yeah... because teams are always as good as they were 4 years previously... loloohaahmortimer said:Germany and Denmark proving we got a bye to the final in the euros as well as the last World Cup to the final
you forgot about Belgium in our group btw bye for the whole tournament right??
Belgium were good 4 years ago
all the other shit we played were pony 4 years ago
teams being good in the past doesn't = good now.
glad we cleared that up
and teams last year in euros were pony and we duly dispatched all the pony teams
except Croatia 4 years ago
and if it helps a team is likely to be nearer to how they were 17 months on rather than 53 months on
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You can only beat what's in front of you.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m saying teams from 4 years ago we played were pony then (Belgium apart)Manic_mania said:
so.. you agree with me then..?oohaahmortimer said:
Don’t think we played Germany and Denmark 4 years agoManic_mania said:
yeah... because teams are always as good as they were 4 years previously... loloohaahmortimer said:Germany and Denmark proving we got a bye to the final in the euros as well as the last World Cup to the final
you forgot about Belgium in our group btw bye for the whole tournament right??
Belgium were good 4 years ago
all the other shit we played were pony 4 years ago
teams being good in the past doesn't = good now.
glad we cleared that up
and teams last year in euros were pony and we duly dispatched all the pony teams
except Croatia 4 years ago
and if it helps a team is likely to be nearer to how they were 17 months on rather than 53 months on
We played Sweden in 2018 because Germany messed up in their group, Croatia because they were better than Argentina, Denmark last year because Netherlands lost in their part of the draw.
By the very fact those types of teams reached QFs, Semis, they were better than those that failed to.3 -
I'll guess Brazil v Uruguay in the top half and Portugal v Switzerland at the bottom.ForeverAddickted said:
Shaping up to be a quite strong QF line-up, barring any further shocks or upsets, which is silly to assume the way the World Cup goes.0 -
I reckon Ghana will go through, they've had more about them than Uruguay so far.1
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The flag all makes sense now.
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Regarding the Japan goal.
When taking a corner the linesman always insist that the ball has to be touching the line.0 -
Whichever linesman you're talking about, apparently he's wrong.1
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Even if the shots are speculative, a team still has to get up the pitch to take them, which in itself opens the game up.randy andy said:
If it looks like it could go down to shots on target, the last 10+ minutes of the games could become farcicalkillerandflash said:Shots on target would encourage teams to just hit lots of speculative "backpass" style shots
It would be far less farcical than defending a draw to go through on penalties. Italy did that twice in four games to become Champions last year.
I think a 'goalkeeper touches' count would make the end of drawn knockout games really exciting. Teams would be so afraid of defending and they'd be far fewer backpasses to the goalkeeper.
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The one I'm looking forward to tomorrow is Ghana vs Uruguay.killerandflash said:A great day for the World Cup. Yesterday was incredibly exciting, but ended with a terrible Poland team squeaking through, whereas today delivered shock exits.
Tomorrow's groups look less exciting, with the big teams already through, so going to Charlton is an easier decision!
A grudge match 12 years in the making, with Ghana having the opportunity to get revenge and end Luis Suarez's international career after that handball incident at the 2010 WC.
Incredible narrative at play.6 -
Does anyone else find it surprising that FIFA didn't just release the still image that VAR would've used to show the ball was in? They do for offsides so why not this?
Could've saved about 15 minutes discussion post-match by doing that.0 -
Classic.DaveMehmet said:
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And we are better than all other London teams looking at the league cup .North Lower Neil said:
You can only beat what's in front of you.oohaahmortimer said:
I’m saying teams from 4 years ago we played were pony then (Belgium apart)Manic_mania said:
so.. you agree with me then..?oohaahmortimer said:
Don’t think we played Germany and Denmark 4 years agoManic_mania said:
yeah... because teams are always as good as they were 4 years previously... loloohaahmortimer said:Germany and Denmark proving we got a bye to the final in the euros as well as the last World Cup to the final
you forgot about Belgium in our group btw bye for the whole tournament right??
Belgium were good 4 years ago
all the other shit we played were pony 4 years ago
teams being good in the past doesn't = good now.
glad we cleared that up
and teams last year in euros were pony and we duly dispatched all the pony teams
except Croatia 4 years ago
and if it helps a team is likely to be nearer to how they were 17 months on rather than 53 months on
We played Sweden in 2018 because Germany messed up in their group, Croatia because they were better than Argentina, Denmark last year because Netherlands lost in their part of the draw.
By the very fact those types of teams reached QFs, Semis, they were better than those that failed to.
better teams do mess up and don’t go as far as others
who would we rather in our side of the group Spain or Japan🤷♂️
as ever we want the better teams to not qualify and I’d say I’d prefer to play Japan over Germany.
and of course we can only beat who we play but there are easier draws and we certainly had and took advantage of them last two tourneys , Croatia apart , who I believe everyone would take , at that point in time , forever for a World Cup semi final opponent forever …
who we all cheering on in France v Poland … exactly0 -
Technically it is still in play, just. However I never seen it given by any official in my entire live before, as still in play.ForeverAddickted said:That has to be as tight as when Liverpool played @ the Etihad a few years ago, and made a clearance on the line
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Went to Côte d'Ivoire - Serbia & Montenegro in 2006, on the telly the same time as Nederland - Argentina, friend said he'd be watching the latter, assuming great football. 3-2 at my game, sendings off, penalties, a double Golfie, 0-0 snorefest at the other. You can't assume weak teams will be boring. If anything, weak defences equals goals.MrOneLung said:I had this as one of the most boring games on paper !!!1 -
I've seen them to be quite happy with a part of the ball over the line, as per the rules.conker said:Regarding the Japan goal.
When taking a corner the linesman always insist that the ball has to be touching the line.0 -
Probably because humans couldn't make such a fine judgement. However, forget about technically, that's what the rules say so it's in play and it's a goal.guinnessaddick said:
Technically it is still in play, just. However I never seen it given by any official in my entire live before, as still in play.ForeverAddickted said:That has to be as tight as when Liverpool played @ the Etihad a few years ago, and made a clearance on the line
Technology has since shown that the Azerbaijani / Soviet linesman almost certainly got it wrong in '66, but who cares? That's two close calls that have resulted in Germany not winning the World Cup so it's a result on both fronts.0 -
No talking points = no need for pundits.ForeverAddickted said:Makes me laugh when pundits complain about VAR decisions
Remember them complaining before it was introduced saying that it would take away the talking points0 -
That picture is clear - the ball's in play. If you had a camera immediately in line with the goal (why isn't it?), it would show it even more in play.Off_it said:
Isnt it there to correct clear and obvious errors?Chunes said:Considering the fact that we're still looking at it more than an hour later and still can't agree, I'm not sure what decision VAR was supposed to come to
Not exactly clearly or obviously in or out, so why overall the on field decision?2 -
This should make the Uruguay game fun later
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I would expect an England player to do the same in that situation.No different to fouling a player and giving away a penalty.3
