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FIFA World Cup - Qatar 2022

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,463
    Hahahaha brilliant
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,388
    Fully deserved
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,128
    killerandflash said:
    Addick Addict said:
    killerandflash said:
    Eden Hazard's decline since leaving Chelsea is baffling

    Although he's not old (32 in January) he's got a lot of miles on the clock, having started at the age of 16 and now made 618 appearances for club and country. And probably been kicked in every one of them. The likes of Messi and Ronaldo are freaks in that respect and their desire to carry on relentlessly but he might just have lost a bit of that. Who could forget that season, after all, at Chelsea, when he downed tools under Mourinho when he wasn't happy?
    He left Chelsea in 2019, having scored 21 goals that season. Since then he's scored 7 for Madrid, and they've dried up for Belgium also, that's an incredibly sudden downturn
    It has been a decline but, as I say, this could just been down to the lack of "desire". He scored 14 PL goals in 2014/15, threw his toys out of the pram in 2015/16, found the net just 4 times (all after Mourinho had been sacked) and then scored 16 PL goals in 2016/17. He was only 24 in that middle season. 
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,909
    No more than Morocco deserve. Belgium have been absolute pants.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,174
    #Martinezball
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,819
    What a great goal. Win fully deserved. 
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,595
    My fantasy team picks have been diabolical this round. Expect Brazil, Croatia and Portugal to get beaten if the trend continues
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,070
    Morocco deserve that. Top of the group and their last game is against Canada.

    Real possibility that Belgium and/or Croatia are going home in the group stage now.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,174
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Whats the best case scenario from the Croatia vs Canada game at present?

    Either team win and we have three sides on all 3-pts.

    Croatia then play Belgium in the last game | Canada finish against Morocco.
    Morocco and Croatia drew their first game, so Morocco have 4 points and so would Croatia 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,388
    edited November 2022
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Whats the best case scenario from the Croatia vs Canada game at present?

    Either team win and we have three sides on all 3-pts.

    Croatia then play Belgium in the last game | Canada finish against Morocco.
    Morocco and Croatia drew their first game, so Morocco have 4 points and so would Croatia 
    Duh!! - Thank you

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,244
    This is world football, take the blinkers off, this is magic and unpredictable.

    The fitness and pace of so many unfashionable football teams is fantastic.
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    More proof that the FIFA rankings are bollocks.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,070
    edited November 2022
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Whats the best case scenario from the Croatia vs Canada game at present?

    Either team win and we have three sides on all 3-pts.

    Croatia then play Belgium in the last game | Canada finish against Morocco.

    If Croatia win, they’re on four points with Morocco and Canada would be going home.

    If Canada win, you have Morocco on 4, Belgium and Canada on 3, Croatia on 1.

    If a draw, Morocco on 4, Belgium on 3, Croatia on 2 and Canada on 1.


    The group is wide open on the final match day, as long as Croatia don’t win. Which is absolutely possible after seeing the performances of both sides in their first matches.



  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,388
    edited November 2022
    killerandflash said:
    No 2 in the World, you're having a laugh!
    One 3rd place in the World Cup, and three Quarter-Finals exits in the Euros and World Cup in the last ten years - How Belgium were ever No.1 in the World, without getting close to winning anything, makes a mockery of the FIFA Rankings
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,174
    In terms of their football upbringing, many of those Moroccan players are European. Combine that with national pride and the passionate support, it's a great combination 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,244
    edited November 2022
    Tin-Tin, Katrine Miere, Van Diesel, Roland Duchatelet, Peter Paul Rubens, Kim Clijsters, Jean- Claude Van Damme, Hercule Poirot, your boys took a hell of a beating.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,481
    LawrieAbrahams said:
    More proof that the FIFA rankings are bollocks.
    Agree, although I really don’t think anyone needs it at this point.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,980
    Listened to the game in the car on talkSPORT and the commentary by Ian Danter and Leanne Sanderson was probably the best I have heard this tournament 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,388
    killerandflash said:
    Eden Hazard's decline since leaving Chelsea is baffling
    Whose decline has been worse... Eden Hazard, or Dele Alli...
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,964
    Tunisia fully deserved that. I must admit there are few teams like them and Saudi for example have surprised me they are very enjoyable to watch. Cant wait for the Spain-Germany game that should be a cracker hopefully Spain give them a thumping but as always you can never discount Germany

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  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,840
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Breaking news CL members getting upset with Commentators. I have no problem at all with any of the commentators. It a cult on here with Lord Romford turning into Dreyfus from pink Panther with this obsession about Clive T on ITV.

    I feel like Casanova at an orgy and can't say I'm always listening to every word. I have had practice at not listening after 30 years of marriage 🗣️
    You gonna ignore that they've been naming the wrong Moroccan keeper for 20 minutes? 

    Would call it racist but would end up shutting the thread down. 
    Why would you call it racist if he never read the teamsheet properly?
    A different goalkeeper sung the anthem than walked out on the pitch for the game. 

    Surely as the commentator, there at the game, you should be able to distinguish two very different looking goalkeepers? 
    Just seen it. So one goalkeeper was on the teamsheet and came out onto the pitch and sang the national anthem, then they swapped him just before the game kicked off but clearly nobody told the commentator.

    With the keepers being fixed at one end of the ground the scope for seeing their names and numbers is greatly reduced compared to most outfield players, so I wouldn't hang out to dry a commentator for not knowing every player in every squad by sight at a distance of 50 yards plus.

    Not great for the production team as a whole. Cant see how that could remotely be considered racist though. 

    Care to enlighten us?
     I've been in a ground at the half-way line and to be honest you can quite easily see every player on the pitch and their number so don't think that would be a particularly good excuse. 

    I won't go into the specifics of the 'cross-race effect' but the basics is if Courtois comes off for Mignolet, commentators spot it within 30 seconds. 

    I'm not calling the commentator himself racist. Just an unfortunate error that would have been avoided if there were more knowledge about football from other continents. It is the world cup after all. 

    Wouldn't expect any less from someone with Marcus Bent as his avatar.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,174
    Why are the BBC showing a Charlton clip?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,388
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Breaking news CL members getting upset with Commentators. I have no problem at all with any of the commentators. It a cult on here with Lord Romford turning into Dreyfus from pink Panther with this obsession about Clive T on ITV.

    I feel like Casanova at an orgy and can't say I'm always listening to every word. I have had practice at not listening after 30 years of marriage 🗣️
    You gonna ignore that they've been naming the wrong Moroccan keeper for 20 minutes? 

    Would call it racist but would end up shutting the thread down. 
    Why would you call it racist if he never read the teamsheet properly?
    A different goalkeeper sung the anthem than walked out on the pitch for the game. 

    Surely as the commentator, there at the game, you should be able to distinguish two very different looking goalkeepers? 
    Just seen it. So one goalkeeper was on the teamsheet and came out onto the pitch and sang the national anthem, then they swapped him just before the game kicked off but clearly nobody told the commentator.

    With the keepers being fixed at one end of the ground the scope for seeing their names and numbers is greatly reduced compared to most outfield players, so I wouldn't hang out to dry a commentator for not knowing every player in every squad by sight at a distance of 50 yards plus.

    Not great for the production team as a whole. Cant see how that could remotely be considered racist though. 

    Care to enlighten us?
     I've been in a ground at the half-way line and to be honest you can quite easily see every player on the pitch and their number so don't think that would be a particularly good excuse. 

    I won't go into the specifics of the 'cross-race effect' but the basics is if Courtois comes off for Mignolet, commentators spot it within 30 seconds. 

    I'm not calling the commentator himself racist. Just an unfortunate error that would have been avoided if there were more knowledge about football from other continents. It is the world cup after all. 

    Wouldn't expect any less from someone with Marcus Bent as his avatar.

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,563
    AndyG said:
    Tunisia fully deserved that. I must admit there are few teams like them and Saudi for example have surprised me they are very enjoyable to watch. Cant wait for the Spain-Germany game that should be a cracker hopefully Spain give them a thumping but as always you can never discount Germany
    Tunisia were quite poor against Australia I do agree. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,244
    @AndyG you need to hit the edit button!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,388
    soapboxsam said:
    @AndyG you need to hit the edit button!
    I like to think that both Andy and Rodders have been sarcastic given the nature of the thread today
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,128
    ForeverAddickted said:
    killerandflash said:
    Eden Hazard's decline since leaving Chelsea is baffling
    Whose decline has been worse... Eden Hazard, or Dele Alli...

    Depends on the starting and finishing points. One did it for well over a decade and won 17 trophies and the other was a two season wonder in the PL, won nothing and really gave up playing to his potential at the age of 24. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,102
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Breaking news CL members getting upset with Commentators. I have no problem at all with any of the commentators. It a cult on here with Lord Romford turning into Dreyfus from pink Panther with this obsession about Clive T on ITV.

    I feel like Casanova at an orgy and can't say I'm always listening to every word. I have had practice at not listening after 30 years of marriage 🗣️
    You gonna ignore that they've been naming the wrong Moroccan keeper for 20 minutes? 

    Would call it racist but would end up shutting the thread down. 
    Why would you call it racist if he never read the teamsheet properly?
    A different goalkeeper sung the anthem than walked out on the pitch for the game. 

    Surely as the commentator, there at the game, you should be able to distinguish two very different looking goalkeepers? 
    Just seen it. So one goalkeeper was on the teamsheet and came out onto the pitch and sang the national anthem, then they swapped him just before the game kicked off but clearly nobody told the commentator.

    With the keepers being fixed at one end of the ground the scope for seeing their names and numbers is greatly reduced compared to most outfield players, so I wouldn't hang out to dry a commentator for not knowing every player in every squad by sight at a distance of 50 yards plus.

    Not great for the production team as a whole. Cant see how that could remotely be considered racist though. 

    Care to enlighten us?
     I've been in a ground at the half-way line and to be honest you can quite easily see every player on the pitch and their number so don't think that would be a particularly good excuse. 

    I won't go into the specifics of the 'cross-race effect' but the basics is if Courtois comes off for Mignolet, commentators spot it within 30 seconds. 

    I'm not calling the commentator himself racist. Just an unfortunate error that would have been avoided if there were more knowledge about football from other continents. It is the world cup after all. 

    Wouldn't expect any less from someone with Marcus Bent as his avatar.
    Bravo!
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,964
    This group is now looking like its shaping up well. I would love to see Canada get a result today as that will make the last games exciting. Croatia obviously should win comfortably but as previous games have shown you never know
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,920
    Luca Modric is such an unusual looking player.

    If you showed a picture of him to someone who didn’t know, there’s no way on earth they’d say he was a footballer.

    He’s got the little scraggy urchin look. Like he’s had a bit of a rough life, and might dress in an old shellsuit while hanging around a wetherspoons at 10 in the morning. He looks like he signs on while doing occasional cash in hand work.

    Makes me laugh. The fact that he’s an absolutely brilliant footballer is amazing to me!

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