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  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,420
    One game at a time, we were good last night and stopped Wales playing. If we had done that against USA it would have been a different outcome, but we let them dictate the match. 

    We should beat Senegal, but they do have some good players so we need to be on our guard, no time for any sloppy performances now as that will be the end of it. 

    In a one-off game we shouldn't fear anyone (Brazil/France), so let's enjoy the ride and hope it's a long one! 

    Come on England! 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    I still don't believe that we are using Foden to the best of his capabilities out wide and that we will need his ability on the ball and to be able to see a pass in a more central position. So the only change I would make from yesterday's team is to replace Henderson with Saka or Sterling and have Foden in a midfield three with Rice and Bellingham.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,420
    Addick Addict said:
    I still don't believe that we are using Foden to the best of his capabilities out wide and that we will need his ability on the ball and to be able to see a pass in a more central position. So the only change I would make from yesterday's team is to replace Henderson with Saka or Sterling and have Foden in a midfield three with Rice and Bellingham.
    Yeah i think we could have tried that in one of the group games. Not sure now as it's a risk as he is not very defensive minded, although he does track back. 

    I think in time he will play the KDB role, but i don't see Southgate risking ahead of Mount or Henderson who have both played this role alot more, i can see them sticking with Henderson. The only potential change is Sterling in for one of Foden/Rashford and the other being used as a sub but i don't think the fans would like that. 

    Same team barring injury Sunday, also wouldn't be too disappointed if Phillips came in and if he was match fit. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,597
    edited November 2022
    Addick Addict said:
    I still don't believe that we are using Foden to the best of his capabilities out wide and that we will need his ability on the ball and to be able to see a pass in a more central position. So the only change I would make from yesterday's team is to replace Henderson with Saka or Sterling and have Foden in a midfield three with Rice and Bellingham.
    Foden rarely plays centrally in midfield for Man City though.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/phil-foden/leistungsdaten/spieler/406635/plus/0?saison=2022
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/phil-foden/leistungsdaten/spieler/406635/plus/0?saison=2021

    Over the last two seasons, its either been as their central striker (Haaland can do that now), or out on the Left

    When the commentators said yesterday in the first half, that it was Man Utd down the left (Shaw and Rashford) | Man City down the right (Walker | Foden), I thought Southgate was being pretty clever at the time doing that - However think he was too smart for his own good, and when Foden was switched to the left for the 2nd half, we finally started to see the Man City version of him.

    Just be interesting now to see if Southgate sticks with that, or whether he reverts back to Sterling.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    edited November 2022
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Addick Addict said:
    I still don't believe that we are using Foden to the best of his capabilities out wide and that we will need his ability on the ball and to be able to see a pass in a more central position. So the only change I would make from yesterday's team is to replace Henderson with Saka or Sterling and have Foden in a midfield three with Rice and Bellingham.
    Foden rarely plays centrally in midfield for Man City though.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/phil-foden/leistungsdaten/spieler/406635/plus/0?saison=2022
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/phil-foden/leistungsdaten/spieler/406635/plus/0?saison=2021

    Over the last two seasons, its either been as their central striker (Haaland can do that now), or out on the Left

    When the commentators said yesterday in the first half, that it was Man Utd down the left (Shaw and Rashford) | Man City down the right (Walker | Foden), I thought Southgate was being pretty clever at the time doing that - However think he was too smart for his own good, and when Foden was switched to the left for the 2nd half, we finally started to see the Man City version of him.

    Just be interesting now to see if Southgate sticks with that, or whether he reverts back to Sterling.
    Foden not starting regularly in a central three is as much to do with the three that are in situ namely Rodri (13 starts from 14 games), KDB (13) and Bernardo Silva (12). Those three are going to be very difficult to displace but I'm sure, eventually, that Foden will regularly play there for City. For England, I would rather see Foden there (or Maddison for that matter) than Mount or Henderson. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    The start of the second half Rashford and Foden did switch with immediate result and  when Grealish came on and went left wide, Foden went central but with licence to wander as the game was won. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,995
    We really are spoilt for choice in attacking areas arent we. Considering we've scored 9 goals and arguably our best ever striker isn't one of them, is ridiculous.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
    One thing that could be good for us is that there is a 6 day gap (we play 4th and 10th Dec) between our last 16 and quarter final matches if we make it.

    Not sure how the schedulers worked that out given some sides play 5th and 9th and 6th and 10th.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,920
    With all the interchangeable options in attacking areas, and his excellent form so far, Maguire is now one of the first names on the teamsheet.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,420
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,597
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Could throw Grealish in there, he wanted to take one against Italy
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,420
    ForeverAddickted said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Could throw Grealish in there, he wanted to take one against Italy
    I think he has missed his last few, maybe Maguire could be in there too really depends who is on the pitch so i thought it could create a could debate. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
    Maguire took one of the best penalties you'll ever see in that Italy shoot out.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,597
    johnnybev1987 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Could throw Grealish in there, he wanted to take one against Italy
    I think he has missed his last few, maybe Maguire could be in there too really depends who is on the pitch so i thought it could create a could debate. 
    Maguire could be a great shot... Scored a great one in that shootout
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,771
    I'll fuck with their heads and have Pickford up first. He scores then every other player including the opposition goalkeeper will feel the pressure plus it gives Pickford a right boost.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    ForeverAddickted said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Could throw Grealish in there, he wanted to take one against Italy
    I think he has missed his last few, maybe Maguire could be in there too really depends who is on the pitch so i thought it could create a could debate. 
    Maguire could be a great shot... Scored a great one in that shootout
    He could well be a sound choice although I can't get out of my head a vision of him hitting one into Row Z following that overhit cross of his last night!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Is there anyone in the squad you actively wouldn't want to take one?
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,771
    edited November 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Is there anyone in the squad you actively wouldn't want to take one?
    Anyone who comes off the bench specifically to take one
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,120
    edited November 2022
    Have a proper feeling the argies are going home tonight. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Is there anyone in the squad you actively wouldn't want to take one?
    Anyone who comes off the bench specifically to take one
    Nick Pope?

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  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,771
    Addick Addict said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    So if we get to a penalty shootout who takes them:

    Kane
    Saka
    Trippier
    Foden
    Henderson
    Maddison
    Wilson
    Mount

    Not that order but top 5 would be in maybe if Maddison/ Wilson on they could replace 
    Is there anyone in the squad you actively wouldn't want to take one?
    Anyone who comes off the bench specifically to take one
    Nick Pope?
    How many keepers have we got on the bench 2, 3? Bring them on and make them take the penalties.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,771
    First 3 pens by keepers then I guess we'll have to let those outfield players have a go. 
  • Andyessgee90
    Andyessgee90 Posts: 846
    Addick Addict said:
    I still don't believe that we are using Foden to the best of his capabilities out wide and that we will need his ability on the ball and to be able to see a pass in a more central position. So the only change I would make from yesterday's team is to replace Henderson with Saka or Sterling and have Foden in a midfield three with Rice and Bellingham.

    Henderson might not be the most technically gifted but I don’t think there’s any other player on our squad that has the engine he has. Against Wales you could hear him really firing the others up on the pitch. Need to get that balance of ability/leadership/workman on the pitch which is the difficult part. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,376
    very difficult game to come v Senegal .. I fancy USA to beat Holland
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,185
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Have a proper feeling the argies are going home tonight. 
    Nah , they win it 
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    Unsurprisingly France have made 9 changes. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,920
    edited November 2022
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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,788
    Lots of misplaced passes in the first 10 mins of the Australia v Denmark match. Nerves from both teams.

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