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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    edited January 2023
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
  • Curbsgoldenera
    Curbsgoldenera Posts: 3,208
    Good news about Stockley, his heart wasn’t in it and surely that means Leaburn is staying plus one other striker coming in.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Stockley before his back injury was great. He has been ineffective since. Wish him well but he needs a fresh start elsewhere 
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    edited January 2023
    Stockley on his way on a perm, signing a two and half year deal at Fleetwood, according to Cawley. Hopefully got that fee back for him. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    Going the rest of the season with Bonne,Leaburn , Aneke (when available) is dangerous even if we play 433

    I'd like to think they've let Stockley go to sign a replacement that's more suited to Holden's style but I think that's unlikely. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    MarcusH26 said:
    Going the rest of the season with Bonne,Leaburn , Aneke (when available) is dangerous even if we play 433

    I'd like to think they've let Stockley go to sign a replacement that's more suited to Holden's style but I think that's unlikely. 
    Ronnie Schwartz to make a comeback? 
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,258
    SELR_addicks said:
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
    On the other hand how many people have been saying JS in the team was like playing with 10 men. So assuming Bonne isn't as terrible as Stockley has been this year then we are still in a better position than before the window. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    SELR_addicks said:
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
    And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited January 2023
    All the best to Jayden - Shows how quickly things can change in Football

    Had an outstanding year for us last year, regardless if some of his goals came in Cup Competitions, whilst others were with his stronger right foot, instead of his weaker left etc... But there were equally times when he spoke damned well, spoke about wanting to end his career with us, and put the effort in - That back injury you'd think has something to do with how he plays now, so hope he can rediscover some of his old form on the North coast, just not against us please fella!!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    Surprised Stockley is a permanent but it's probably for the best. When it comes to loaning out Kirk and maybe DJ though it's not just about getting them off the wage bill, it's also important that we get them playing and hopefully looking like decent footballers again so that we're more likely to find buyers for them in the summer. Right now with the wages Kirk is on and the amount we paid for him we need him to go out and have a brilliant spell at Burton just to get someone to take him off us long term
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    BigRedEvil said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Going the rest of the season with Bonne,Leaburn , Aneke (when available) is dangerous even if we play 433

    I'd like to think they've let Stockley go to sign a replacement that's more suited to Holden's style but I think that's unlikely. 
    Ronnie Schwartz to make a comeback? 

    Now in terms of weird deadline days , that would be Southall and his snacks level weird. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,274
    Move Stockley, McG, McG, JFC, Kirk and DJ on in this window to save ££. Bring in some relatively cheap loanees and kids.  Hope the 11-15 decent payers we had anyway stay injury free and Holden gets a tune out of them to show decent form (play offs are gone) and in summer show the Texan investors how easy it is to run the club at a much lower cost base (slash academy too) and still be successful as long as you have the right people (Holden/Scott) in charge...?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    killerandflash said:
    Scoham said:
    killerandflash said:
    Scoham said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    All well and good getting Kirk off the books but there has to be a replacement for him lined up otherwise we're very light wide for a side that wants to play 433. 
    Not convinced we’ll get a winger in, Campbell is Kirk’s replacement.

    That’s not a bad thing, he clearly has potential to do well at this level and looks a better fit for a Holden side. We need pace and energy on the wings, Kirk’s a low tempo player suited to a possession side.
    He's a 19 year old kid. I wouldn't want to play him every week if JRS or CBT got injured. We NEED more cover than that.
    Why not? JRS is 20, Leaburn is 19 and Ness is 20. 

    As long as he’s genuinely good enough and not thrown in like Clayden was or others like Kennedy in the RD years it’s not an issue.

    It’s sensible to move bigger earners on who aren’t good enough or suited rather than waste money on them being back up.

    If we had more to play for I’d want more experience but this is a good opportunity to help Campbell develop ahead of next season. We can then assess whether he should go on loan or can be part of the first team squad.
    But is he good enough? He's got some talent of course, but Bolton dealt with him very easily. He's very raw.

    Yes I want him to get games, but I don't want us to be (again) in a situation where we're overplaying kids because we have no choice, which does neither us or them any good.
    Not all 19 year old are equal either.  Rooney was much better than Ronaldo at 19.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    BigRedEvil said:
    Stockley before his back injury was great. He has been ineffective since. Wish him well but he needs a fresh start elsewhere 
    Our style hasn't really been to play Stockley and a channel runner since he returned either. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Pelling1993 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
    And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
    Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year. 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    MarcusH26 said:
    Surely Stockley can't be going to Fleetwood - he was injured for Saturday's game.
    Let's face it - this whole window has been about getting rid of a pile of crap, expensive mistakes that Gallen and MS have precided over and in return if we get Kilkenny it isn't MS' black box of data analytics is it - and neither were ANY of the signings we made in pre season - they were all known by Garner.

    We have no money.   Our owner wants to slash the wage bill.   I don't blame him - Kirk, Mansfield and Stockley are earning big salaries for players who aren't getting minutes - same with McGrandles, JFC, Gilbey etc etc

    I get it.   But we may as well stop the bullshit.  There are NO billionaires buying us.   Just a group of opportunistic football people who think they can get THIS squad, completely outplayed by Bolton on Saturday and whose best players may well not be here come the Summer (Rak Saki, Leaburn, Dobson, Bonne, Clare (though with Clare, I'm not sure he's in our best players now), plus Kane. Sessegnon etc  - into the Championship on spending no money and polishing what turds we will have left.

    It's VERY depressing and I remain under, under, under whelmed!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    ForeverAddickted said:
    All the best to Jayden - Shows how quickly things can change in Football

    Had an outstanding year for us last year, regardless if some of his goals came in Cup Competitions, whilst others were with his stronger right foot, instead of his weaker left etc... But there were equally times when he spoke damned well, spoke about wanting to end his career with us, and put the effort in - That back injury you'd think has something to do with how he plays now, so hope he can rediscover some of his old form on the North coast, just not against us please fella!!
    I wouldn't say outstanding, but 13 league goals last season was a reasonable return. This season he's been really poor though. If it's the back injury, then you wonder if it's a permanent decline?
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,258
    Garrymanilow said:
    Surprised Stockley is a permanent but it's probably for the best. When it comes to loaning out Kirk and maybe DJ though it's not just about getting them off the wage bill, it's also important that we get them playing and hopefully looking like decent footballers again so that we're more likely to find buyers for them in the summer. Right now with the wages Kirk is on and the amount we paid for him we need him to go out and have a brilliant spell at Burton just to get someone to take him off us long term
    Is it just me that would actually be a bit pissed off if Kirk (arguably even Stockley) left and suddenly had a brilliant spell away from us? Particularly as they are staying in this division. 

     Would feel a bit like they've been taking the piss out of us all of this season.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Happy to get kirk and stockley of the wage bill even if replaced with loans till the summer. That's when the squad needs a rebuild.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    SELR_addicks said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
    And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
    Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year. 
    He's played a lot less minutes than Stockley and first half of this season he's been primarily used at the end of games in the Championship. 

    He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games. 

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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    So Stockley is on for a 2.5 year move to Fleetwood, so the hat trick is still on Ronnie...✅
  • CharltontillidieCOYR
    CharltontillidieCOYR Posts: 781
    Met jayden outside the ground after a game when it was all going wrong for adkins he was a polite nice bloke who was very open and honest

    Seems like a good egg shame it hasnt worked out but good luck for his future career
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Dazzler21 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
    And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
    Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year. 
    He's played a lot less minutes than Stockley and first half of this season he's been primarily used at the end of games in the Championship. 

    He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games. 

    Would you be happy with Leaburn and Bonne (+ Aneke occasionally) as our promotion-chasing strikers for 2023/24? 

    I certainly wouldn't. 
  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,351
    I think thats a bit of scoop for Fleetwood getting Jayden on a permanent for 2.5 years 
  • Red_Chester
    Red_Chester Posts: 745
    Use Kirk and stockley wages to tie Leaburn and Dobson to longer contracts. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    shine166 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Great Stockley to Fleetwood, now watch him score a hat trick on the 11th Feb!! 🤷‍♂️
    Won’t be allowed to play against us 
    That's unfortunate 
    He will now he joining on a permanent move not a loan.. 2 1/2 year deal fee undisclosed 
  • BenHaimandBikey
    BenHaimandBikey Posts: 508
    Waste of time Stockley being here, might as well get him off the books.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Egan off to Hibs as I predicted.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    edited January 2023
    Dazzler21 said:
    mendonca said:
    Payne, Morgan, Kilkenny, Henry....all quite similar in physical stature.
     Are they?

    Payne 5ft 5" - Short & Stocky
    Kilkenny 5ft 7" Short and Slim
    Henry 5ft 9" Average and Average
    Morgan 5ft 11" Average and Slim

    You've got half a foot's difference between the lot and when it comes to their footballing style they're all different too. 

    All very different players.
    (I can't speak for Kilkenny's play style yet).

    No way is Morgan 5ft 11".
    I've spoken  to him & was similar height.
    5ft 9" at most imo. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    SELR_addicks said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Remember when we all felt like we were short of a decent striker? 

    Then we signed Bonne, (about to) let go of Stockley and are still in exactly the same position. 

    Money saved though I bet. 
    And love or hate Bonne. He's much much better than this crocked version of Stockley
    Bonne hasn't scored a goal in over a year. 
    He's played a lot less minutes than Stockley and first half of this season he's been primarily used at the end of games in the Championship. 

    He was Ipswich's top scorer until they brought in better last season - he got 11 in the first half the season and then again became an option to close out games. 

    Would you be happy with Leaburn and Bonne (+ Aneke occasionally) as our promotion-chasing strikers for 2023/24? 

    I certainly wouldn't. 
    Lets deal with the rest of 2022/23 first before we think about next season, no guarantee we'll have Bonne either

    Is it better that we get Stockley off the books now, so we know we need to find two permanent Strikers in the summer (provided we dont find someone else before tomorrow) - Rather than being in a position with Kirk, where we think he's coming back, not sure if he's staying, so cant really get a replacement until he's going.

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