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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • Guess this'll be a Holden recommendation after working with him @ Stoke this season?
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Kilkenny fits the ilk of player I expected we'd be looking at , just hope he's not another Matt Smith (either of them) 
    Arsenal Matt Smith was decent, I will die on this hill! Okay, not die. Argue half-heartedly for a couple of posts maybe tho
  • Heard of Kilkenny in the Republic of Ireland, but never heard of this bloke.
  • To be honest, we don't need a physically imposing midfielder in so much as we need control. Our midfield has some good players in it but it's so reactive. Dobson putting in a great tackle because an attacker has gone clear, Fraser breaking the lines with some good footwork, maybe a quick searching ball from Morgan. All good stuff but sudden. We very rarely see stuff happen as the result of a platform we've built from controlling the game in the middle. We've got Dobson to go around kicking people and Fraser to come up with some moments of brilliance but we need a midfielder alongside them who can keep the game ticking over while being able to hold his space and win the ball where needed, or at least cover the gaps created by a fullback going or an attack breaking down. I know absolutely nothing about Kilkenny so I don't know if he's that player, but while Albie has some good attributes he just doesn't know how to play to the full extent of his role. He's often caught in odd positions and has trouble resetting on a turnover. It's no surprise that Albie's best games where when Bowyer put him as a wide midfielder in a 4 and told him to stay narrow, put in challenges and play the ball early when he gets it.
    Yes, good post. You forget Albie's other best games, though - when he played as a sort of hybrid second pivot/right-back/quarterback type, not having to get too involved in the scrap. The ultimate luxury position mind you
  • Would rather Kilkenny over Morgan every day of the week in midfield 
    Morgan's performance on Saturday was baffling. 50% brilliant. 50% terrible
  • If we sign Kilkenny then we must have reached the point where we have the lowest average height across the squad ever?
  • Leuth said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Kilkenny fits the ilk of player I expected we'd be looking at , just hope he's not another Matt Smith (either of them) 
    Arsenal Matt Smith was decent, I will die on this hill! Okay, not die. Argue half-heartedly for a couple of posts maybe tho

    Arsenal Matt Smith wasn't outright bad , just a fairly middling loan signing. Hopefully Kilkenny is the missing link for this midfield 3 Holden wants to go with. 
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  • edited January 2023
    Would rather Kilkenny over Morgan every day of the week in midfield 
    Morgan's performance on Saturday was baffling. 50% brilliant. 50% terrible
    I think he's another one that, if he left, would struggle to find another club in this league. And yet he starts regularly for us. 
  • Would rather Kilkenny over Morgan every day of the week in midfield 
    Morgan's performance on Saturday was baffling. 50% brilliant. 50% terrible
    100% Morgan basically. But the team as a whole would be better off with a midfielder who is consistently decent instead of one who is either great or awful with no real middle ground between.
  • I hope it is a loan with an option to buy.
  • Southbank said:
    mart77 said:
    Kilkenny having a medical this morning. - sounds like definitely a championship level player. 
    Hope so but couldn’t get a kick at Stoke. Fingers crossed
    None of our team would get a kick at Stoke.

    Another Josh Cullen hopefully.
    Josh Cullen was exactly who I thought of.  Lost his way in a struggling championship side before we got hold of him.  I would hope this is with an eye on an extended loan, next season, as well.  I doubt they would loan him to another championship team if they are in it!
  • shirty5 said:
    mart77 said:
    Glad to see nobody is worried Dobbo will be sold. A new deal announced would be better than any new signings atm. 
    he got a 12 month extension so there no concerns .. 
    There is an option for a year extension which has not been actioned at this time by the football club 
    Don’t need to yet 
  • Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    shirty5 said:
    mart77 said:
    Glad to see nobody is worried Dobbo will be sold. A new deal announced would be better than any new signings atm. 
    he got a 12 month extension so there no concerns .. 
    There is an option for a year extension which has not been actioned at this time by the football club 
    I assume that’s because there’s a window at the end of the season when it can be activated, which is probably standard for those clauses.
    Typical can kicking that we have seen over and over again, for the last decade.  That's the problem with slowly building a squad (if that's what we were ever trying to do) you spit the good ones out faster than you bring better ones in. 
    It’s where we are due to the ownership situation, TS doesn’t want to hand out new contracts that will increase the wage bill. Same reason we won’t be paying fees in this window.

    I don’t think slowly building the squad was ever the plan. The money we’ve spent under TS could have built a good top 6 side, the issue is it was spent badly.
    It might not have actually been the plan but it was the bollocks that was spouted.

    Totally agree with the last bit. 
  • At least Holden would have worked with Kilkenny this season albeit it briefly when both were at Stoke. 
  • mart77 said:
    Glad to see nobody is worried Dobbo will be sold. A new deal announced would be better than any new signings atm. 
    George Dobson - Midfielder- Signed on a 2 year deal - Page 22 — Charlton Life

    My thoughts exactly.  ;)
    He could sign 10 year deal don’t mean he won’t leave .. contracts not worth the paper they’re printed on . Agents don’t care about contracts most don’t care about their players to be honest they just see the pound signs .. 
  • mart77 said:
    Glad to see nobody is worried Dobbo will be sold. A new deal announced would be better than any new signings atm. 
    George Dobson - Midfielder- Signed on a 2 year deal - Page 22 — Charlton Life

    My thoughts exactly.  ;)
    He could sign 10 year deal don’t mean he won’t leave .. contracts not worth the paper they’re printed on . Agents don’t care about contracts most don’t care about their players to be honest they just see the pound signs .. 
    But you just said its not an issue because of the option.  Make your mind up...
  • It won't be an option to buy 
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  • edited January 2023
    mendonca said:
    Payne, Morgan, Kilkenny, Henry....all quite similar in physical stature.
     Are they?

    Payne 5ft 5" - Short & Stocky
    Kilkenny 5ft 7" Short and Slim
    Henry 5ft 9" Average and Average
    Morgan 5ft 11" Average and Slim

    You've got half a foot's difference between the lot and when it comes to their footballing style they're all different too. 

    All very different players.
    (I can't speak for Kilkenny's play style yet).

  • Cafc43v3r said:
    mart77 said:
    Glad to see nobody is worried Dobbo will be sold. A new deal announced would be better than any new signings atm. 
    George Dobson - Midfielder- Signed on a 2 year deal - Page 22 — Charlton Life

    My thoughts exactly.  ;)
    He could sign 10 year deal don’t mean he won’t leave .. contracts not worth the paper they’re printed on . Agents don’t care about contracts most don’t care about their players to be honest they just see the pound signs .. 
    But you just said it’s not an issue because of the option.  Make your mind up...
    It’s not as far as the club concerned .. but they have no control over agents and their greed 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    mendonca said:
    Payne, Morgan, Kilkenny, Henry....all quite similar in physical stature.
     Are they?

    Payne 5ft 5" - Short & Stocky
    Kilkenny 5ft 7" Short and Slim
    Henry 5ft 9" Average and Average
    Morgan 5ft 11" Average and Slim

    You've got half a foot's difference between the lot and when it comes to their footballing style they're all different too. 

    All very different players.
    (I can't speak for Kilkenny's play style yet).

    I think the point was none of them offer a physical presence in the middle.

    However you could argue we need a good all round player in there like Cullen (wasn’t big either) rather than a Pratley type.
  • Scoham said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    mendonca said:
    Payne, Morgan, Kilkenny, Henry....all quite similar in physical stature.
     Are they?

    Payne 5ft 5" - Short & Stocky
    Kilkenny 5ft 7" Short and Slim
    Henry 5ft 9" Average and Average
    Morgan 5ft 11" Average and Slim

    You've got half a foot's difference between the lot and when it comes to their footballing style they're all different too. 

    All very different players.
    (I can't speak for Kilkenny's play style yet).

    I think the point was none of them offer a physical presence in the middle.

    However you could argue we need a good all round player in there like Cullen (wasn’t big either) rather than a Pratley type.
    I agree with that description. 
  • Stockley in advanced talks with Fleetwood allegedly 
    also theyve agreed a deal with Jack Marriott 
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