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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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Pelling1993 said:Jesus Christ O’Brien is absolutely woeful
He’s not good with crossesScoham said:
Is he related to Aiden?Pelling1993 said:Jesus Christ O’Brien is absolutely woeful1 -
Agreed, Oconnell should start on the left with Ness on the right.LTKapal said:I still don’t fully understand why Ryan is ahead of O’Connell but maybe that’s just me.5 -
Burton is not so far from Crewe. Kirk seems to be a bit of a home bird, maybe he's happier to settle for a Third Division move where he can be closer to friends and family?Garrymanilow said:Says a lot about how far perception of Kirk has fallen that last season a bad start for us had a Championship team taking him on loan and putting him in their team. Now he's being loaned to a team in the League One drop zone. At this point it looks like he's returning to the level he was at with Crewe, which is a team struggling to stay afloat in the third division. Feels like he's missed his opportunity to kick on
That may be more important to him right now than playing in a higher division.
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That's an absolute horror show of signings.ForeverAddickted said:
Not to mention you only need to look at our business under Tommy when we've actually spent feesTodds_right_hook said:
I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.SELR_addicks said:
And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless.CH4RLTON said:Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim
we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.
Fraser | Aneke | Lavelle | Kirk | Clare | Stockley | Shinnie | Jaiyesimi | Schwartz | Washington | Gilbey
Two of those (Lavelle | Jaiyesimi) could still depart, whilst one is crooked.
Maybe we're better off looking around in the bargain bucket, as we cant be trusted to make transfer fees
In fact apart from Dobson and CBT i can't recall many recent signings who actually improved with us.2 -
I meant the signings today. We’ve plugged the obvious gaps at full back and striker. Quite happy with any signing that is with a view to keeping them next season but I’m not sure the names mentioned so far are ones that will be here next seasonChris_from_Sidcup said:
In the case of someone like Penney or Kane, they're out of contract in the summer so no harm in seeing what they can do with a view to potentially keeping them next season if they do well.NabySarr said:Don’t get the point in these signings. They are short term fixes when we aren’t going up or down. I would rather just use Ness, Henry, Campbell, Kanu etc and get a good look at them for next season rather than bring players in ahead of them.Same situation as last season where the managers future is uncertain so they need results in the short-term rather than thinking what’s the best way to prepare us for next season
Plus if we signed no one and were forced to play kids and then got sucked into a relegation battle, we'd all be saying 'why the fuck didn't we get some loans in'.0 -
Or werent crooked... e.g. EgboChris_from_Sidcup said:
That's an absolute horror show of signings.ForeverAddickted said:
Not to mention you only need to look at our business under Tommy when we've actually spent feesTodds_right_hook said:
I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.SELR_addicks said:
And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless.CH4RLTON said:Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim
we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.
Fraser | Aneke | Lavelle | Kirk | Clare | Stockley | Shinnie | Jaiyesimi | Schwartz | Washington | Gilbey
Two of those (Lavelle | Jaiyesimi) could still depart, whilst one is crooked.
Maybe we're better off looking around in the bargain bucket, as we cant be trusted to make transfer fees
In fact apart from Dobson and CBT i can't recall many recent signings who actually improved with us.0 -
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Not sure about Hector. Looks like he needs acres of space to do anything.10
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He's a unit, though.The Red Robin said:Not sure about Hector. Looks like he needs acres of space to do anything.
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Could link up well with MilesAddickhead86 said:
He's a unit, though.The Red Robin said:Not sure about Hector. Looks like he needs acres of space to do anything.6 -
Maybe he can regenerate into a decent centre forward. Passes the height test!killerandflash said:0 -
All players make errors though - but often are lucky enough to get away with it without costing a goal.Davo55 said:
Agree. He's much better when he's told to keep it simple and safe. But he still makes calamitous errors and there's always the risk of a sending off. I'd still take him over Lavelle (who's been a major disappointment) but would welcome an upgrade at CB.Oggy Red said:
Inniss made a wrong decision, choosing to try and keep the ball in play instead of putting the ball out.redlanered said:If you told me that we'd have to rely on Ness, O'Connell, Elerewe, Thomas and (at a pinch) Clare at CB for the remainder of the season, I could live with it.
I actually thought (before Sat) that Holden had successfully got Inniss to play a bit more cautiously and reliably. But I despair...
Holden will have been talking to him about that, you bet.
It is the Third Division, players will make wrong decisions.
It's a reason why they are Third Division players.
Apart from that Bolton goal blip (don't forget the defence had completely lost it's shape ,AMB rushing off his line, Clare in no mans land), Inniss has shown simplified play and mproved consistancy lately.
I mean, against Bolton the hospital pass from Ness to Penney is one that comes to mind. Another day that costs us a goal ...... and all the knee jerkers would have been saying: "Ness is sh*t / non- League/ should be out on loan/whatever".
As a no frills defender, Inniss is a bit of a monster to play against, physical and dominant, wins most of his headers and challenges, fairly quick for a CB.
Just KISS ..... Keep It Simple Stupid.
IMO I believe he's decent enough for the level.
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Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing11
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https://www.charltonafc.com/news/done-deal-gavin-kilkenny-addickCoulsdonSouthCAFC said:Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing
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We're not in League Two yet.Todds_right_hook said:
I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.SELR_addicks said:
And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless.CH4RLTON said:Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim
we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.0 -
Shocking you three but I have to admit to laughing!Scoham said:
Could link up well with MilesAddickhead86 said:
He's a unit, though.The Red Robin said:Not sure about Hector. Looks like he needs acres of space to do anything.1 -
“I’m delighted to be joining Charlton,” said Kilkenny. “It’s obviously a huge club and it’s a really great opportunity for me. I really enjoyed working with Dean Holden at Stoke, albeit briefly, and I want to repay the faith he has shown in me by bringing me here. Hopefully we can start pushing up the table to get this club back where it belongs.”
Dean Holden was pleased to reunite with Kilkenny. The Manager said: “Gavin is a player I know well, having worked with him at Stoke. We are very fortunate we could get him, especially given the number of games he played in Bournemouth’s promotion campaign to the Premier League last season. He has got bags of energy, very good technical ability and a top class attitude.”
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Pretty sure nearly all transfers are subject to approvalShowmetheway2gohome said:Why is it saying on EFL approval don’t normally say that dose it. We got embargo again.3 -
A quote from Thomas to let us know he's still around!Oggy Red said:
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/done-deal-gavin-kilkenny-addickCoulsdonSouthCAFC said:Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing6 -
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Fat manly fingers.....35%jimmymelrose said:
We're not in League Two yet.Todds_right_hook said:
I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.SELR_addicks said:
And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless.CH4RLTON said:Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim
we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.0 -
Kilkenny signing is evidently a Dean Holden choice.
Knowing the player from working with him at Stoke, he's thinking he's going to be what he needs for the side going forward.
Dean Holden choices for a Dean Holden team.
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Rubbishkillerandflash said:
A quote from Thomas to let us know he's still around!Oggy Red said:
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/done-deal-gavin-kilkenny-addickCoulsdonSouthCAFC said:Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing0 -
Out of contract this summer. I don’t mind loan signings like this. Gives us a chance to sign him permanently.Oggy Red said:
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/done-deal-gavin-kilkenny-addickCoulsdonSouthCAFC said:Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing10 -
@ButtleJR Last I was aware you were pals with Martin on LinkedIn. Was it an accumulation of club events or did something happen specifically to make you turn on the Sandgaards?ButtleJR said:
No, someone more reliable than that twat... though that's not saying a lot.KentishAddick said:
Been told by TS?ButtleJR said:Been told to expect 3 signings today: based on above I'd assume hector and the bournemouth midfielder plus a striker.2 -
Probably meaning we've completed everything at our end and submitted the paperwork to EFL, which will be taking it's turn in the queue with other club's last day signings.Showmetheway2gohome said:Why is it saying on EFL approval don’t normally say that dose it. We got embargo again.
No doubt just a formality.1 -
But we don’t usually see that caveat do we?ForeverAddickted said:
Pretty sure nearly all transfers are subject to approvalShowmetheway2gohome said:Why is it saying on EFL approval don’t normally say that dose it. We got embargo again.
Probably nothing in it - just unusual.1 -
Never spoke to Martin, only Thomas. Just became obvious TS was a compulsive liar with a huge ego after a while and I gave my opinion on a few things which he didn't appreciate. Wouldn't say we were pals by any stretch. I was just naive and believed he was a good bloke who would do well.balham red said:
@ButtleJR Last I was aware you were pals with Martin on LinkedIn. Was it an accumulation of club events or did something happen specifically to make you turn on the Sandgaards?ButtleJR said:
No, someone more reliable than that twat... though that's not saying a lot.KentishAddick said:
Been told by TS?ButtleJR said:Been told to expect 3 signings today: based on above I'd assume hector and the bournemouth midfielder plus a striker.20 -
A lot of assumptions there.Oggy Red said:
It's obvious that all transfer business is being conducted to get us through the season, and enabling a reset in the summer.cabbles said:
It’s why I question anyone who is getting worked up about who we bring in in this window. Granted, transfers seems to be being engineered by Scott (maybe) and maybe TS is hands off this time round, but the evidence is clear, the recruitment has been very poor for a number of years.Leuth said:
Fuck me that list is brutalForeverAddickted said:
Not to mention you only need to look at our business under Tommy when we've actually spent feesTodds_right_hook said:
I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.SELR_addicks said:
And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless.CH4RLTON said:Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim
we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.
Fraser | Aneke | Lavelle | Kirk | Clare | Stockley | Shinnie | Jaiyesimi | Schwartz | Washington | Gilbey
Two of those (Lavelle | Jaiyesimi) could still depart, whilst one is crooked.
Maybe we're better off looking around in the bargain bucket, as we cant be trusted to make transfer feesWhy would we risk bringing in any players on long term deals when all of the above bar Shinnie have constrained our ability to have a complete refresh. We really need to get to the end of the season either in a position where players’ contracts have run down, or, the majority of the team have been moved on.Anything less than that and I think we’re kidding ourselves about our ability to get out this league next season
So far, fringe members of the squad are departing and short term replacements coming in.
Each of these players will have something to prove - either to earn a contract with Charlton in the summer or put themselves in the shop window.
They know they will need to play for their futures.
Even if they are not regarded as standout players in this division, they may prove to be Holden type players.
Remember Curbs mantra? ...... "building a team greater than the sum of its parts".
Let's see what happens.
The only fact we currently know is that clearly the squad budget for the rest of the season has been reduced for contracted players.
We have no idea on whether that implies more money in the summer or a continuation of the reduction in budget.0
