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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • Scoham said:
    Oggy Red said:
    cabbles said:
    Leuth said:
    CH4RLTON said:
    Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim 
    And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless. 
    I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.

    we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.
    Not to mention you only need to look at our business under Tommy when we've actually spent fees

    Fraser | Aneke | Lavelle | Kirk | Clare | Stockley | Shinnie | Jaiyesimi | Schwartz | Washington | Gilbey

    Two of those (Lavelle | Jaiyesimi) could still depart, whilst one is crooked.

    Maybe we're better off looking around in the bargain bucket, as we cant be trusted to make transfer fees
    Fuck me that list is brutal 
    It’s why I question anyone who is getting worked up about who we bring in in this window.  Granted, transfers seems to be being engineered by Scott (maybe) and maybe TS is hands off this time round, but the evidence is clear, the recruitment has been very poor for a number of years.  

    Why would we risk bringing in any players on long term deals when all of the above bar Shinnie have constrained our ability to have a complete refresh.  We really need to get to the end of the season either in a position where players’ contracts have run down, or, the majority of the team have been moved on.  

    Anything less than that and I think we’re kidding ourselves about our ability to get out this league next season 
    It's obvious that all transfer business is being conducted to get us through the season, and enabling a reset in the summer.

    So far, fringe members of the squad are departing and short term replacements coming in.
    Each of these players will have something to prove - either to earn a contract with Charlton in the summer or put themselves in the shop window.

    They know they will need to play for their futures.

    Even if they are not regarded as standout players in this division, they may prove to be Holden type players.
    Remember Curbs mantra?  ...... "building a team greater than the sum of its parts".

    Let's see what happens.







    A lot of assumptions there. 

    The only fact we currently know is that clearly the squad budget for the rest of the season has been reduced for contracted players. 

    We have no idea on whether that implies more money in the summer or a continuation of the reduction in budget. 
    Either way next seasons squad is likely to be very different.
    Kirk and McGrandles are only out on loan
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Scoham said:
    Oggy Red said:
    cabbles said:
    Leuth said:
    CH4RLTON said:
    Macgillvery, Macgrandles, Stockley, Forster caskey and Kirk all out so far that is quite a big wage trim 
    And we're still in the bargain bucket regardless. 
    I keep reading bargain bucket comments on here. People do realise that we are in the bottom 25% of the top four divisions? Of course we are shopping in the bargain bucket! If we were shopping at Harrods we wouldn't be bottom half league 1.

    we need curbishley style signings, not necessarily big name signings. We need players to fit the managers system and to balance the squad. I couldn't care less if we replaced stockley with a £50k player from barrow, as long as he fits the system and can provide stability to a squad that gets rebuilt every transfer window.
    Not to mention you only need to look at our business under Tommy when we've actually spent fees

    Fraser | Aneke | Lavelle | Kirk | Clare | Stockley | Shinnie | Jaiyesimi | Schwartz | Washington | Gilbey

    Two of those (Lavelle | Jaiyesimi) could still depart, whilst one is crooked.

    Maybe we're better off looking around in the bargain bucket, as we cant be trusted to make transfer fees
    Fuck me that list is brutal 
    It’s why I question anyone who is getting worked up about who we bring in in this window.  Granted, transfers seems to be being engineered by Scott (maybe) and maybe TS is hands off this time round, but the evidence is clear, the recruitment has been very poor for a number of years.  

    Why would we risk bringing in any players on long term deals when all of the above bar Shinnie have constrained our ability to have a complete refresh.  We really need to get to the end of the season either in a position where players’ contracts have run down, or, the majority of the team have been moved on.  

    Anything less than that and I think we’re kidding ourselves about our ability to get out this league next season 
    It's obvious that all transfer business is being conducted to get us through the season, and enabling a reset in the summer.

    So far, fringe members of the squad are departing and short term replacements coming in.
    Each of these players will have something to prove - either to earn a contract with Charlton in the summer or put themselves in the shop window.

    They know they will need to play for their futures.

    Even if they are not regarded as standout players in this division, they may prove to be Holden type players.
    Remember Curbs mantra?  ...... "building a team greater than the sum of its parts".

    Let's see what happens.







    A lot of assumptions there. 

    The only fact we currently know is that clearly the squad budget for the rest of the season has been reduced for contracted players. 

    We have no idea on whether that implies more money in the summer or a continuation of the reduction in budget. 
    Either way next seasons squad is likely to be very different.
    Kirk and McGrandles are only out on loan
    I know but that doesn’t change what I said. They’ll most likely move again in the summer.
  • What’s the betting the ‘free agent market is still open so we will look into that if needs be’ line will be trotted out when we fail to get anyone in 
    Talking of which whatever happened to Connor Wickham? Leaves FGR at the end of his short contract several weeks ago, and still unemployed
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Blimus look at his neck!
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    What’s the betting the ‘free agent market is still open so we will look into that if needs be’ line will be trotted out when we fail to get anyone in 
    Talking of which whatever happened to Connor Wickham? Leaves FGR at the end of his short contract several weeks ago, and still unemployed
    I suppose he is probably holding out to find himself the best possible deal. Can sign for someone after today too so most clubs probably don't see that business as a priority.
  • Rumour of The Snake to Reading on loan from Notts Forrest 
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,845
    Oggy Red said:
    Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing 
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/done-deal-gavin-kilkenny-addick

    A quote from Thomas to let us know he's still around!
    I know I shouldn't react, his little quips feckin annoy the shit out of me. F*ck up Thomas. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    PWADDICK said:

    If we’re after another striker…


    Do you think they mean Karlan Grant?


    Striker. Can/has scored goals ..... 3 in 21 games this season. Not even injured (yet).

    Another ex-player coming home. All boxes ticked. :smile:


  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    Quote glitch

    Please delete post 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ozaddick said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Gavin Kilkenny confirmed as a loan deal. could be a good signing 
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/done-deal-gavin-kilkenny-addick

    A quote from Thomas to let us know he's still around!
    I know I shouldn't react, his little quips feckin annoy the shit out of me. F*ck up Thomas. 
    Same for me - it irritates me far more than it should. He knows absolutely fuck all about any of the players we sign. 
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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Great signing by Posh as per, will probs score a shed load and be sold for a big fee. 


    Hector’s had an… interesting career


    Oh and that's a typical Charlton signing, journeyman, has been and sick note all made an appearance this window. 

    Do we actually have the worst scouts/recruitment team in League 1? Genuine question 

  • The signing of Hector shows how poorly rated Lavelle is at the club in IMO. Unless we are going to play a back 5. Would we need a 5th choice CB now Ness has emerged as a first team player.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    I love it that we have an owner that takes the time to welcome new players.
    Well done!
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    Isn't Ness contract up at end of season and isn't signing a new contract?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    The signing of Hector shows how poorly rated Lavelle is at the club in IMO. Unless we are going to play a back 5. Would we need a 5th choice CB now Ness has emerged as a first team player.
    Or Lavelle perhaps is leaving today?


  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Rudders22 said:
    Isn't Ness contract up at end of season and isn't signing a new contract?
    2024, You may be thinking of Aaron Henry
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    Bailey said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Isn't Ness contract up at end of season and isn't signing a new contract?
    2024, You may be thinking of Aaron Henry. Yeah. You are right.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    edited January 2023
    Redrobo said:
    I love it that we have an owner that takes the time to welcome new players.
    Well done!
    He now only gets involved in what he perceives as positive and doesn't want to deal with the negative, for which he is largely responsible. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Rudders22 said:
    Bailey said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Isn't Ness contract up at end of season and isn't signing a new contract?
    2024, You may be thinking of Aaron Henry. Yeah. You are right.
    Lets hope they both sign again Rudders
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    jbaker said:
    Michael Hector done deal
    Nearly an hour since this post and not a word in the media.
    Done deal - or have I been whoooooooshed?  :o


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  • jbaker
    jbaker Posts: 123
    Oggy Red said:
    The signing of Hector shows how poorly rated Lavelle is at the club in IMO. Unless we are going to play a back 5. Would we need a 5th choice CB now Ness has emerged as a first team player.
    Or Lavelle perhaps is leaving today?


    Or Innis
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    jbaker said:
    Oggy Red said:
    The signing of Hector shows how poorly rated Lavelle is at the club in IMO. Unless we are going to play a back 5. Would we need a 5th choice CB now Ness has emerged as a first team player.
    Or Lavelle perhaps is leaving today?


    Or Innis
    ?????? Who's in for him, then?


  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Hector is definitely signing
    Hector is also a free agent I believe, in which case signing needn't be completed today.


  • Reeco Hackett Fairchild a possibility of coming back on loan from Pompey to replace Kirk. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    I'd be happy with Kilkenny,Hector and a striker in and Kirk,Thomas and probably one more out. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Hector is definitely signing
    I'm reserving a place for you on the 'Naughty step' if he doesn't ..............move up Ronnie you may have company !
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    I still remember the good old days when we signed players I had heard of.  
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I still remember the good old days when we signed players I had heard of.  
    Like Bonne a few weeks ago?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    jbaker said:
    Oggy Red said:
    The signing of Hector shows how poorly rated Lavelle is at the club in IMO. Unless we are going to play a back 5. Would we need a 5th choice CB now Ness has emerged as a first team player.
    Or Lavelle perhaps is leaving today?


    Or Innis
    And Thomas?

    Bloomin' eck ...... at this rate, we won't have any dead wood left!