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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited January 2023
    Covered End said:
    LargeAddick said:
    It’s a good job we brought in Andy Scott to oversee all these loan and free transfer signings. He’s certainly earned his corn.
    It sounds like sarcasm, but I think he's done a great job. He's got rid of half a dozen "high" wage earners who aren't in our team/plans & got in a few who are better players.
    This HAS to be done if we want to get out of L1. 
    He has managed to ship out a lot of deadwood.

    But I remember a lot of people saying Scott wouldn't have come to Charlton if he didn't have a budget to work with.

    Turns out he's just come here to throw out the rubbish and do a quick patch-up with frees and loans.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    edited January 2023
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    No is the simple answer.

    We're not going to bring in someone to play third or fourth choice in a formation that only needs one striker on the pitch.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    Looking more and more like AS was brought in to use his network and shift out 5-7 of the existing squad, replacing them with more cost effective alternatives. He will have earned his corn the way he is going, if all of this movement has been his doing…
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    edited January 2023
    Posted this on the Kilkenny thread but also adding it here because the second half of the video is a review of how we've done overall in the window. Worth a watch for a level-headed view from an outsider looking in.

     
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Covered End said:
    LargeAddick said:
    It’s a good job we brought in Andy Scott to oversee all these loan and free transfer signings. He’s certainly earned his corn.
    It sounds like sarcasm, but I think he's done a great job. He's got rid of half a dozen "high" wage earners who aren't in our team/plans & got in a few who are better players.
    This HAS to be done if we want to get out of L1. 

    I agree and if by the window shutting we still have Leaburn, Dobson, Ness plus Rak Sakyi is still here on loan then it does appear that Andy Scott has does a decent job with the difficult remit he was given by TS.

    To have a real go next season we would need to move on another half dozen in the August window and bring the same amount in who are better ! Plus convince our better 3 or 4 players we have ambition. That won't be easy unless we have new investment or a new owner.

    Will Andy Scott even be here as he had a short term contract to move on the bigger earners who were struggling for game time under Holden. 
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    Sorry if already mentioned, but is it correct that Hector couldn't / didnt complete a medical at Hillsborough. Being reported in The Star, that he started it, found it too intense and failed to return to compete it. 
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    Where's Millwall Fan to tell us how good or lousy Aidan O'Brian is?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,231
    Pavoren007 said:
    Looking more and more like AS was brought in to use his network and shift out 5-7 of the existing squad, replacing them with more cost effective alternatives. He will have earned his corn the way he is going, if all of this movement has been his doing…
    A self inflicted embargo by the club this January. No money to be spent on fees like June to August. 

    Whatever wages you raise on permanents going out, use it to bring in what you require.

    Any money raised on transfer fees goes back onto the debt 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    We are SOOOOOO far in the shite for next season I can't see us being promotion material. 

    Ipswich tried and failed
    Wigan succeeded only to be plummeting back down and in financial problems

    Fuck my old boots 

    League 1 promotion charge in 2025!
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  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    If clearing dead wood is the plan then proper recruit in the summer I'm fine with that. Happy to see those having left are gone. Hope they won't be back. Not convinced the loans out are likely to come back better, but can't imagine anyone that gives them a trial, will want to buy them or make permanent. 
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    thewolfboy said:
    Where's Millwall Fan to tell us how good or lousy Aidan O'Brian is?
    Whoops! Forget the above as he is on his way to the Gills.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited January 2023
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    Norwich striker coming in.  We'll be fine.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    thewolfboy said:
    thewolfboy said:
    Where's Millwall Fan to tell us how good or lousy Aidan O'Brian is?
    Whoops! Forget the above as he is on his way to the Gills.
    Cue people who were moaning about him scoring no goals so far this season now moan that we’ve missed out on a bloke who’s signing for Gillingham
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Can I just say that despite the doom and gloom, the players that have left needed to be shipped out and I'm certainly not knocking the ones that have so far come in. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    Norwich striker coming in.  We'll be fine.
    Adam Idah?
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,034
    Not sure I’m happy getting rid of the ‘deadwood’ given how much we’ve struggled with squad depth this year and having 0 faith in the incoming summer rebuild 
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    Sadly I don't think there's much chance of getting a striker. We play one up front and have 3 strikers (unfortunately Aneke counts). If we had a striker who wasn't Aneke, I wouldn't be worried about that position, but unfortunately he takes up a significant chunk of wages so we won't be getting someone to replace him. It's ridiculous, but it's how it is.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited January 2023
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    Your obsession with strikers when we are in the top 6 for goals scored, but right down the bottom for goals conceded and clean sheets is so weird.

    As ever time will tell. But maybe addressing the priority which was a lack of full backs, our inconsistent centre backs and having a bit more drive in midfield may lead to less goals conceded - meaning if we carry on scoring the amount of goals we are at the moment we might win a few more games - makes more sense.

  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,522
    Pelling1993 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    Norwich striker coming in.  We'll be fine.
    Adam Idah?
    Would be very surprised if he drops down to league 1. 
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  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,256
    Swisdom said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jams said:
    Shows the importance of stability IMO - squad is such a mess with a new manager every time a transfer window rolls around 
    Alarming how frequently we are “rebuilding”. Speaks so clearly to the lack of a real plan and joined up thinking within the club’s management.
    It all comes down to ownership stability.  

    The staff have an idea of the way s manager wants to play and targets will be identified but if we keep changing managers then the goalposts are consistently on the move.

    stability is the real issue here.

    get a manager who will be given time to implement his ideas and spend a little bit of money and we’ll target players for that plan and hopefully get somewhere but this constant rebuilding just doesn’t work
    I agree with this, but the parade of managers being sacked has generally been accompanied by the fan base yelling out 'thank fuck for that, let's get in a decent manager' and expecting a championship/prem manager to drop down. Patience comes from all directions. Garner said it would take a couple of years to get his system implemented across the club, and a very few Addicks thought it was wrong to sack him. Personally, I thought he wanted tier three players to play with the skill set of a premier club, and it just got worse and worse, but lets be honest, most Charlton fans are not happy to allow the sort of building program Bolton have employed, and as it stands we don't have the funds seemingly to start with a rock steady base. We just take hopeful punts at youngsters and out of contract types and surprise surprise they often don't work out.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    Callumcafc said:
    Posted this on the Kilkenny thread but also adding it here because the second half of the video is a review of how we've done overall in the window. Worth a watch for a level-headed view from an outsider looking in.

     
    This has it pitched about right. Scott has done a good job shifting our weak links and brought in what looks like the right kind of fits with them all being out of contract at the end of the year so being hungry to show what they’re capable of. Are any of the signings outstanding? No but they look solid. 

    I think our squad is in better shape now than a month ago.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    The Prince-e-Paul said:
    Sorry if already mentioned, but is it correct that Hector couldn't / didnt complete a medical at Hillsborough. Being reported in The Star, that he started it, found it too intense and failed to return to compete it. 
    Reading what Darren Moore said about him it wouldn’t surprise me.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Pelling1993 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    Norwich striker coming in.  We'll be fine.
    Adam Idah?
    Noah Ideah.


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    edited January 2023
    Think “Norwich striker” may have been a reference to the ‘fingers on one hand’ part of the post…
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,884
    supaclive said:
    We are SOOOOOO far in the shite for next season I can't see us being promotion material. 

    Ipswich tried and failed
    Wigan succeeded only to be plummeting back down and in financial problems

    Fuck my old boots 

    League 1 promotion charge in 2025!
    I'm not sure how that can be concluded in January. 

    I'm glad that the dead wood are going, the youngsters will be another year older and bigger and more suited for men's football. Very early to right of next season 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jams said:
    Shows the importance of stability IMO - squad is such a mess with a new manager every time a transfer window rolls around 
    Alarming how frequently we are “rebuilding”. Speaks so clearly to the lack of a real plan and joined up thinking within the club’s management.
    Speaks so clearly of the total absence of knowledge and humility in the owner, he backed his ego with his own money til his enormous but fragile ego couldn't take any more failure, so now he's pulled up the drawbridge and cut off the cashflow. Skintgaard might not be as crazy as douchebag but he's just as worthless as the owner of an English 3rd division football club.  He had a small fortune but because he hasn't got the skill set or experience, he's now got a drastically smaller fortune and nothing to show for it.  He evidently also lacks the cajones to employ skilled help, not cos he knows better, or anything useful just because he's a gobby man baby who has to be the biggest noise in the room 
    His tiny balls and his tiny mind have micromanaged Charlton to the lowest point in its professional history
    Wanker
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Todds_right_hook said:
    supaclive said:
    We are SOOOOOO far in the shite for next season I can't see us being promotion material. 

    Ipswich tried and failed
    Wigan succeeded only to be plummeting back down and in financial problems

    Fuck my old boots 

    League 1 promotion charge in 2025!
    I'm not sure how that can be concluded in January. 

    I'm glad that the dead wood are going, the youngsters will be another year older and bigger and more suited for men's football. Very early to right of next season 
    Make you right, if Bonne stays a forward line of Kanu, Bonne and Leaburn wouldn't look too sad.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    FishCostaFortune said:
    golfaddick said:
    So far, with just 6 and a half hours to go we have just 2 fit strikers on our books. 

    We aren't getting anyone decent in are we  ??  And by decent I mean who has actually scored more goals this season than they have fingers on their right hand. 


    Your obsession with strikers when we are in the top 6 for goals scored, but right down the bottom for goals conceded and clean sheets is so weird.


    Golfie's favourite game was against top of the league Cardiff a few seasons ago ...... 2-0 down to win 5-4.

    He got to see an unlikely Charlton win, 9 goals and even a 'double Golfie'. :smile:




  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    Callumcafc said:
    Think “Norwich striker” may have been a reference to the ‘fingers on one hand’ part of the post…
    Shows how easy it is to spread absolute nonsense though

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